Bald And Dating - Feeling More And More Hopeless

[IdealForehead]

Have you read the book "The Game" by pickup artist Neil Strauss? He himself is bald, and what I posted is from him

Neil Strauss is a clown and so are most PUAs. The most successful (ie. Lowest rejection rate) PUAs are tall handsome white guys. That's not a skillset. It's being born into a demographic.

Guys like Owen from RSD have incredibly high rejection rates despite years of "practice" because you are always starting from the baseline set by your looks with a new girl and you usually have about 5 seconds of her looking at you during which she will determine whether or not its worth continuing to interact with you. Trying to convince a girl who immediately sees you as unworthwhile that you have value is almost always a losing battle.

The only major lessons the PUA industry can teach are:

- try to have a sense of personal style or uniqueness
- don't be afraid to approach
- don't make it too easy for her (girls like a challenge and guys who are somewhat emotionally unavailable)
- don't be too agreeable or nice
- hit on a f*****g shitload of girls (ie. Hundreds or thousands) to compensate for the fact that women find you unattractive

All of this is fair and useful. But the fantasy that you can be a below average guy who scores hot chicks with ease because of your "game" is just that - a fantasy sold to ugly guys to move more books, workshops, and seminars.

It simply doesnt work that way in real life. And as someone who has been physically unattractive his whole life, I can tell you there is no such thing as "sneaking in under the radar". If you are ugly but likable this is just a recipe for friendship. If you consider being a girl's platonic friend #53 a success then I guess baldness should be awesome.

Or if you want to do what PUAs do, you can spend 5 hours every Friday, Saturday, and Sunday at clubs and malls hitting on hundreds of random girls who don't want to talk to you for a less than 1% sex rate from your effort.

 

[Murkey Thumb]

It is NOT a solution. At least not a very good one. If it was we wouldn't have guys risking ruining their sexual health taking finasteride or getting scars on the back of their head from transplants just to avoid the horror of becoming that goofy bald guy with an obvious rug. It would have been a non-issue and nobody would bother with drugs or researching a cure. But it is not a very good solution for the majority of people, which is why they desperately avoid it and try a whole regimen of much riskier treatments before succumbing to it. Hell most people don't even resign themselves to wig wearing, they just end up shaving their heads and staying bald. Why? Because nobody wants to be that laughing stock in an awful looking toupee who is not fooling anyone but themselves.

Some people cant shave their heads due to previous FUT procedures, scars, poor head shape so a rug is the only answer for them. I also think that the modern weave is practically unnoticeable, i worked with a guy for 6 years before he told me that he wore a system i couldn't tell at all.

 

[SteveTabernack]

Have you read the book "The Game" by pickup artist Neil Strauss? He himself is bald, and what I posted is from him

I have but wish I didn't. Such horrible woman advise in that book for an impressionable 15/16 year old boy that I was at the time.

If you're in to that book and the whole PUA thing it's no wonder you're dishing out such crazy talk.

 

[Xyz23]

The biggest problem is that you cant be yourself and thats not really attractive to women. furthermore they notice if you have a personality or not. you sound like a person with no personality at all. thats the biggest problem imo

 

[Obesecat]

Have you read the book "The Game" by pickup artist Neil Strauss? He himself is bald, and what I posted is from him

FYI most of what he writes is absolutely garbage and doesn’t work in real life. It’s written for entertainment purposes

 

[hopingbutfearing]

1st your not getting girls because you are bald. You are not getting girls because you are old. Most men are married by the time they are your age. And most women by the time they are 24.

Lower your standards I’m sure there is still someone outthere for you

Most women are married by the age of 24!? Do you actually live on this planet? That's not the case for most of the world. 24 is still very young to get married.
Lowering standards? Doesn't really work as I prefer to be with someone I'm actually attracted to....

 

[Obesecat]

Most women are married by the age of 24!? Do you actually live on this planet? That's not the case for most of the world. 24 is still very young to get married.
Lowering standards? Doesn't really work as I prefer to be with someone I'm actually attracted to....

I’m from Utah so the average might me lower. In the US national average for women is 27. The average age for marriage in men is 29. That’s just statistics you can google yourself. You are entering territory of an older man at 35. Your days a prime dating are over. Most women and men your age are married.

I’m sure you feel like you deserve a perfect 10. But at your age that’s not going to happen. Most are taken by that point. In addition most men at your age have hairloss. So assuming you are going after age appropriate women balding should not be a problem.

If you are going after women in their 20s who are bombshells - yes you need to lower your standards and date women within a few years of your age. You are not a young person anymore.

 

[hopingbutfearing]

Thank you for the earlier comments from others though

I’m from Utah so the average might me lower. In the US national average for women is 27. The average age for marriage in men is 29. That’s just statistics you can google yourself. You are entering territory of an older man at 35. Your days a prime dating are over. Most women and men your age are married.

I’m sure you feel like you deserve a perfect 10. But at your age that’s not going to happen. Most are taken by that point. In addition most men at your age have hairloss. So assuming you are going after age appropriate women balding should not be a problem.

If you are going after women in their 20s who are bombshells - yes you need to lower your standards and date women within a few years of your age. You are not a young person anymore.

Yeah 27 sounds a little bit more reasonable. Where do I give the impression that I feel I deserve a perfect 10!? If anything my OP should give you the impression that being bald in itself makes it virtually impossible to bag a 10. I simply said that obviously yes, you have to compromise but at the same time you're not going to end up being with someone you're not attracted to. My ideal age is I would say 28-33. To be honest women below the 26/27 mark can be rather immature and not on the same wavelength anyways.

 

[Obesecat]

Some people cant shave their heads due to previous FUT procedures, scars, poor head shape so a rug is the only answer for them. I also think that the modern weave is practically unnoticeable, i worked with a guy for 6 years before he told me that he wore a system i couldn't tell at all.

Thank you for the earlier comments from others though


Yeah 27 sounds a little bit more reasonable. Where do I give the impression that I feel I deserve a perfect 10!? If anything my OP should give you the impression that being bald in itself makes it virtually impossible to bag a 10. I simply said that obviously yes, you have to compromise but at the same time you're not going to end up being with someone you're not attracted to. My ideal age is I would say 28-33. To be honest women below the 26/27 mark can be rather immature and not on the same wavelength anyways.

Most men past 35 have noticeable hairloss. It should not be a problem with women of your age. For women 30+ most men in their dating range would have hair loss. It may be a problem for women below 29. The issue is by that time most women are married or taken. So the pool of attractive single females has diminished. Believe me a 32+ single women isn’t going to care about hairloss relative to your, career, income and life choices. I would focus on being financially successful.

 

[IdealForehead]

Most men past 35 have noticeable hairloss. It should not be a problem with women of your age. For women 30+ most men in their dating range would have hair loss. It may be a problem for women below 29. The issue is by that time most women are married or taken. So the pool of attractive single females has diminished. Believe me a 32+ single women isn’t going to care about hairloss relative to your, career, income and life choices. I would focus on being financially successful.

There are so few thin women past the age of 30 that they can afford to still be as picky as they want. I'm financially successful and I can't get a reply from any of them. I don't even look like i'm balding since I'm nw2 and wear my hair down.

It's all looks from birth to death. Unless you are actually paying a woman directly ie. Hooker or sugar baby which is likely my next stop.

 

[Obesecat]

There are so few thin women past the age of 30 that they can afford to still be as picky as they want. I'm financially successful and I can't get a reply from any of them. I don't even look like i'm balding since I'm nw2 and wear my hair down.

It's all looks from birth to death. Unless you are actually paying a woman directly ie. Hooker or sugar baby which is likely my next stop.

I find that not to be the case. I’m significantly bald and not good looking. I have a much easier time with women 30+ than women my own age. I am told I look 30 too but I’m 24.

Most women 30+ that age complain that there are no guys available because men their age want to date 20 something’s.

Women 30+ are past the ideal age for marriage and are considered less desirable. At that point in their lives they are mostly looking to settle down or have long term relationships/ start families.

Although looks do matter to a certain extent. I find that they matter less for women as you get older. From my experience older women are concerned more with a man that can provide financial security, and would be a good long term partner.