Bald Son - Father Having Full Head of Hair

[Vigaku]

Topic says it all...I personally think it's more interesting because supposedly, baldness is more of an x-gene trait than a y, so surely they should be more examples of this in the real world? :dunno:

Anyway, I'm 20, dad's 60 and sadly, has thicker hair than I do. Don't know how much I can blame him though. But seeing as he's in denial about my condition and is bitter about it at the same time...can't say there isn't a suck factor present.

That aside, hopefully we can see some examples.

 

[Obsidian]

 

[ClayShaw]

Topic says it all...I personally think it's more interesting because supposedly, baldness is more of an x-gene trait than a y, so surely they should be more examples of this in the real world? :dunno:

Anyway, I'm 20, dad's 60 and sadly, has thicker hair than I do. Don't know how much I can blame him though. But seeing as he's in denial about my condition and is bitter about it at the same time...can't say there isn't a suck factor present.

That aside, hopefully we can see some examples.

What do you mean by this? Why would he be bitter?

 

[kerzyguy]

to be honest, i have never seen it personally, every person i know whose dad has great hair, they have great hair also, best example of that, james and josh brolin, friggin great hair, i want to see examples of a dad having amazing hair and a son with crappy hair...my dad has amazing hair, my grandpa had amazing hair as well, my dads maternal grandad had a nw3 at his age of 54, yet my dad still has the nw2 of his father. is it really a huge x gene factor?

 

[Vigaku]

lmao...

Funny thing, Homer looks 10x better than his dad though.

It's all about head shape baby. unk:

What do you mean by this? Why would he be bitter?

Because he can't put himself in other people's shoes.

He's against the idea of me getting braces and getting hair loss treatment when his *** got teeth transplants last year for his missing front two teeth and the worst thing he got was some temple recession which actually looks good on him. He's kind of crap. He wouldn't feel so good after someone knocking his teeth out and corroding his hair. Not saying he doesn't love me but he's very hard to please.

to be honest, i have never seen it personally, every person i know whose dad has great hair, they have great hair also, best example of that, james and josh brolin, friggin great hair, i want to see examples of a dad having amazing hair and a son with crappy hair...my dad has amazing hair, my grandpa had amazing hair as well, my dads maternal grandad had a nw3 at his age of 54, yet my dad still has the nw2 of his father. is it really a huge x gene factor?

According to scientists yes, but it really comes down to how you're made, what regimens your on, etc.

There are always hair replacements to resort to though. :agree:

You won't need to do that though...you need to depart from this site..lol :woot: kidding. You can stay. Gives us something to be jealous about.

 

[kerzyguy]

but seriosuly, my brothers wife, her moms dad is bald, her dad has hair, and all her older brothers have hair like their dad, even the derm i went to told me just to look at my dad and his dad, and when i asked bout the moms side, he said it was a myth...but i dont know, it just seems everyone i know whose dad has great hair, they have gret hair too

 

[Vigaku]

Holy crap that got confusing the moment you said your brother's wife's mother's dad.

But I get your point.

For the record there is an extremely bald guy standing in front of me...oh noez.

 

[Obsidian]

In all seriousness, my Dad is still an NW1 in his late 50's with just age related thinning. I, on the other hand am a thinning NW2-2.5 with hairloss that started at the ripe age of 18.

 

[Kaizer]

hi buddies!!
I have the same problem my dad is 46 and has a great hair!! my uncles too and even my grandfather (he died in the age of 50 with no hai loss at all) . I started losing my hair before 18... is it possible that it is not a male pattern baldness?

 

[elvis123]

I think baldness is more of a Y gene trait not X, or else more women would be bald...

 

[Vigaku]

It can be a spit in the face, you know? A full-headed father having a son just so he can f*ck the woman he likes, even if it means the son will start balding in his late teens...add the father being bitter to the equation and you get something f*cked up beyond imagination...

Well that's just the way I see it.

Kaizer,

Look at the males on your mom's side of the family. Or, you can simply look at WHERE you are losing hair. If it's on the top, and not on the sides and back, then it's male pattern baldness.

And there's no indication that this is more of a Y gene trait. I have yet to read a source stating that it is. Nearly everything I run into talks about x chromosone, x trait, x gene, etc.

Now, it's not TOTALLY x-related. It's truly dependant on how you're genetically made. You won't necessarily lose hair if males on your mom's side are.

And don't forget it's not just genetic susceptibility that is required to go bald. You need the necessary potent androgen DHT to go bald, something women lack, so they're not losing their hair. They will thin mildly at best with their possible small traces of the androgen, at a very late age anyway.

In fact if you think about it, if women and men balded equally, baldness would slowly become history as time goes on. Anyone smart enough can guess why.

 

[ADL]

My father's father was NW7 bald.


My father is NW7 bald.

Four of his sisters married men who still have perfect NW1 hair.
>Their sons are all NW7 bald or heading in that direction quickly. One of them balded in one month due to alopecia areata.
>Some of their daughters struggle with thinning hair at young age.

 

[Vigaku]

Excluding the part where you mentioned Alopecia Areata (which is not male pattern baldness related as far as I know...), that is a very good scenario where ignorance and/or inconsideration is involved.

I'm not saying that NW1 is a bad guy. It's just that ignorance will cause him to marry someone like that. If he isn't ignorant then he's inconsiderate, or has his head up his *** thinking his son won't care about his balding teen years.

 

[kerzyguy]

does your hair's body,texture or colour mean anything? like my hair is the same as my dads, but that means nothing in terms of male pattern baldness right? i have a widows peak though that my dad doesnt have, but my brother has one also, does a widows peak determine whose genes you take after or is it just a single trait inheritated that means nothing in terms of male pattern baldness or w.e

 

[Vigaku]

Widows peak is inherited.

What I thought you were about to ask was if you have the same pigment of hair as your mom more than your dad, does it necessarily mean you inherited "hair" genes more from your mom's side than your dad's. It's a good question but I think a no answers that.

Also another thing I wanted to mention, and it's even more f*cked up than my last post that I find it a little funny.

Take for example a woman who's so obsessed with having a full-headed guy as her boyfriend/husband, heavily criticizing against guys with hair loss (while not even knowing it's caused by male pattern baldness) while she has it in her genes. Her dad, her brothers, etc. are NW5+, yet she hopes to have kids in the future.

I could see it now. Her thinning 18 year old son having a talk with her one day asking "mom, if you weren't related to me and were my age, would you find me attractive?" speechless and stuttering as she fabricates her lie.

It's a sad case which is why I think I should mention the funny part. The funny part is her ignorance and how she doesn't even try to find out what causes the baldness.

This isn't 1950. In this time and age, it is very easy to obtain information, the best way being the internet. If you're not in a third world country, and aren't miserably poor, you have no excuse, period.

 

[ClayShaw]

Widows peak is inherited.

What I thought you were about to ask was if you have the same pigment of hair as your mom more than your dad, does it necessarily mean you inherited "hair" genes more from your mom's side than your dad's. It's a good question but I think a no answers that.

Also another thing I wanted to mention, and it's even more f*cked up than my last post that I find it a little funny.

Take for example a woman who's so obsessed with having a full-headed guy as her boyfriend/husband, heavily criticizing against guys with hair loss (while not even knowing it's caused by male pattern baldness) while she has it in her genes. Her dad, her brothers, etc. are NW5+, yet she hopes to have kids in the future.

I could see it now. Her thinning 18 year old son having a talk with her one day asking "mom, if you weren't related to me and were my age, would you find me attractive?" speechless and stuttering as she fabricates her lie.

It's a sad case which is why I think I should mention the funny part. The funny part is her ignorance and how she doesn't even try to find out what causes the baldness.

This isn't 1950. In this time and age, it is very easy to obtain information, the best way being the internet. If you're not in a third world country, and aren't miserably poor, you have no excuse, period.

Sometimes I think that way, but I think you're a little off base. No offense, just a little off base.
My brother and I have some pretty bad genes, I won't go into it, but they're not good.
I could blame my parents, but when I put myself in their shoes, how could they know? They were in their early 30's, my father didn't have psoriasis yet, he certainly didn't have any hairloss, and my mother's rosacea was not bad at all. The issue is that my brother and I got all the things they got later in life much earlier. But if you're with someone you love, you've just gotten married, and you're thinking about children... Unless you're a guy who was NW7 at 18, baldness is probably not high on your list of potential issues with your child. Birth defects, down's, and all kinds of other things are the kinds of things people are worried about, if they're worried at all.
My point is that when people are thinking about having kids, I imagine its a very happy time in their life, and they're not methodically going through lists of all the possible things that could go wrong, especially not 20 years down the line.

 

[Vigaku]

Unless you're a guy who was NW7 at 18, baldness is probably not high on your list of potential issues with your child.

Not saying you implied the following but after reading this part this just popped in my mind.

Say I'm a man wanting to have kids. "If I'm not losing hair, my son won't either. It makes perfect sense...." Just another example of ignorance.

One may rate down syndrome and 3 fingers as being worse than male pattern baldness. However that is his/her opinion and I would gladly be missing 2 fingers for a full head. Reason? I'd have confidence in everything I do and I wouldn't be down 85% of the time, even if I was not able to engage in things like sports. Come to think about it with the lack of confidence I'd probably not do that anyway.

There's no reason to rate what should be considered and what shouldn't. Your mentality will not be that of your son/daughter necessarily, but I think I won't go further with this.

 

[ClayShaw]

Unless you're a guy who was NW7 at 18, baldness is probably not high on your list of potential issues with your child.

Not saying you implied the following but after reading this part this just popped in my mind.

All I meant was someone for whom baldness was a major concern. Not saying you'd have to be NW7 by 18 to care, I just mean those people are probably very affected by their baldness, and would therefore be thinking about it, especially the younger they were when they had children.

Say I'm a man wanting to have kids. "If I'm not losing hair, my son won't either. It makes perfect sense...." Just another example of ignorance.

I don't think it's ignorance, I just think guys who aren't losing their hair and don't have a strong family history of baldness (like a bald father or a bald maternal grandfather) aren't thinking about losing hair, or they think they'll lose it when they're older and they won't care (older being 45+). I think people who are expecting a kid or thinking about having a kid don't want to get into a frame of mind where they run through every possible problem in their head. It would drive you nuts.

One may rate down syndrome and 3 fingers as being worse than male pattern baldness. However that is his/her opinion and I would gladly be missing 2 fingers for a full head. Reason? I'd have confidence in everything I do and I wouldn't be down 85% of the time, even if I was not able to engage in things like sports. Come to think about it with the lack of confidence I'd probably not do that anyway.

Its not that one is worse than the other. Thats a pointless game to play. What matters is how it affects the person. Born with male pattern baldness might really affect some people, but someone else might be a concert pianist with missing fingers. The pianist would probably trade his baldness for your fingers, but it doesn't work that way.

There's no reason to rate what should be considered and what shouldn't. Your mentality will not be that of your son/daughter necessarily, but I think I won't go further with this.

I just think its a pandora's box of bad thoughts most people don't want to open.

 

[Vigaku]

I agree with everything you said.

Seeing as we would probably be able to choose our kids genetic make-up in the future (not that I'm planning on having any) things like male pattern baldness probably wouldn't exist, well, if you're fortunate enough to help your kid out.

 

[ClayShaw]

I agree with everything you said.

Seeing as we would probably be able to choose our kids genetic make-up in the future (not that I'm planning on having any) things like male pattern baldness probably wouldn't exist, well, if you're fortunate enough to help your kid out.

I think by the time that sort of option comes around, there will be effective enough treatments for hairloss that it won't matter.