Balding dosnt matter to girls

[s.a.f]

[quote="blonde_john":81xt8d20]Hey if a guy wants to wear a hair system, more power to him.
As for the women making fun of the guy, how much you wanna bet they're "faker" than he is (fake teeth, spray tan, fake boobs, heels, hair extensions, etc.)?

And thats exactly why they're making fun of him! Because he is a man not a woman.

No one is saying a man should be able to wear female accessories simply because females wear them too. We are simply saying if a woman can wear a TON of fake stuff, then what's wrong with a guy wearing something fake as well because he suffers from male pattern baldness?[/quote:81xt8d20]

'Sigh'
What cant you get about the fact that men are not supposed to act the same way as a woman does?
You think a woman is attracted to a man who acts the same way she does?

Men and women have opposite traits and men are not supposed to be overly concerned about their appearance its a sign of weakness/insecurity. Any man who goes to the lengths of glueing a piece of fake hair to his head is going to be seen by a woman as having insecurity issues or being vain. :gay:

 

[anxious1]

We allow women to wear all this fake stuff, I think they can allow us this one thing (cause god forbid we are the ones that suffer from male pattern baldness).

You act like wigs today are like they were from a long time ago. They ARE in fact undetectable.

We should be able to wear wigs.

they should allow us this one thing

It should be acceptible to get hair transplants

There should be no cancer, there should be no war...

i think u get my point. We are talking about reality here, not what life should be like.

the reality is its not acceptible to alot of people to have surgery or wear wigs to cover up hairloss. And if u do, there will come a point in time when people find out and judge u because of that.

We may not like it, or think its fair, but alot of people think males should 'be a man' about it, and not hide it, while females can. Thats the reality, unfortunately.

 

[NoLuck]

I'm with saf on this one, you will not be respected if people of the opposite sex learn you wear a wig...

And you won't get your weenie wet as much as a guy who's got hair (if any). FACT
Some men don't look good without hair .FACT
Society is (and always was ) focused on appearance . FACT
People are ( and have always been ) naturally attracted to a good looking person , it's an almost universal trait in the animals on this planet . FACT

Can you develop a great personality to score some points ? YES but is it difficult and does it work as often as someone who looks good with all is hair ? NO

Just try going after 20yo girls when you're 23 and balding ...

Now the conclusion to this is that this debate is pointless .
Someone that wants to wear a well made wig is obviously free to do so to feel better about himself , and no one can tell him otherwise .

As for the guys that pretend to spot a wig at a 200 miles distance while they're not even wearing their glasses , let me just laugh .

 

[waldo]

theres no point lamenting the unfairness in the fact that women are fake as sh*t, while men who wear hair will be considered insecure and mentally weak.

its just a fact of life and no getting mad about it will change it.
thats just a gender thing.

about the "girls dont care about balding matter", i hav to agree. however girls care about confidence and there is little more attractive than a guy thats in perfect peace with himself both mentally and physically. any insecurity shines trough to the outside, no matter how tough you act. and women notice that. i read an article that stated, that there even is a relation between your body pheromones and your mental state. a blind girl sitting next to a confident guy will subconscionsly feel more attracted to him than to the non-confident guy sitting to her other side. fascinating stuff.

(a write guides on social dynamics for young dudes)
with balding its similar to this:

women don't care about your opinion, as long as you have one!
if a women asks you wether you embrace globalisation, or oppose it...

if you answer with something like "meh, i dont know. i guess its a bad thing..." she will roll her eyes and consider you a boring loser. however if you tell her "globalisation is awesome, everyone who disagrees is an idiot" or "f*** no. its the worst thing that has happened to mankind since WW2" she will get wet instantly. this is obviously exaggerated but you get the idea... its not the oppinion that matters, you will be an interesting and confident character with either of these responses. now if the chick asking you is a dreadlock wearing, hippie art student, you rather pick your answer carefully

 

[johnbbbb]

Give me a break... If wearing a hairpiece makes that guy feel more happy and confident, good for him. Likewise if a guy takes Propecia to keep his hair, does that somehow make him 'insecure' or 'vain'? This has nothing to do with men acting like women, as you claim.

 

[s.a.f]

Give me a break... If wearing a hairpiece makes that guy feel more happy and confident, good for him. Likewise if a guy takes Propecia to keep his hair, does that somehow make him 'insecure' or 'vain'? This has nothing to do with men acting like women, as you claim.

Yeah but taking a pill is undetectable, unless midway through your chat up your packet of Finasteride falls out of your pocket and lands at her feet!

And are you really comparing popping a pill in your mouth to buying a piece of fake hair and gluing it onto your bald head?

To me I cant see how going from bald to wig can ever work. Sure wigs are can be natural looking but from what we've seen on here over the years that depends entirely on the skill of the wearier in how he chooses the system and cuts it in ect.
There are plenty of guys out there who claim that theirs is undetectable but what one person sees looking in the mirror is'nt always the same as what the rest of the world sees.
All it takes is for 1 person to spot it and the secrets out. You'll have people (mid conversation) staring at your hair trying to imagine what it looks like underneath.
And lets face it most guys on here are young (20's) picture the scenario you're in a club talking to girl - its going well, then some jealous douchebag leans in and tells her your hair is fake. = instant crash and burn!

 

[NoLuck]

It's a knifes with 2 edges, or cut with both sides, I don't know the english idiom, in french we say, c'est un couteau à double tranchant, il y a un revers à la médaille, bref it's going to help you dramatically to close girls, I absolutely agree but you forget all the maintenance hassle, the cost the wind (even though it's glued to his head, he does not dare to go out when it's windy), the fear of being caught (personnaly I wouldn't care), a friend who wants to pull you hair to play and paf! you know what I mean, don't say it's 100% an advantage to wear a rug.

I agree with you , I didn't say it was 100% advantage , but it can be worth it .
It really depends on the person , and the decision shouldn't be made lightly .

picture the scenario you're in a club talking to girl - its going well, then some jealous douchebag leans in and tells her your hair is fake. = instant crash and burn!

A guy like that would get a punch in his face from me right away :woot:

 

[s.a.f]

picture the scenario you're in a club talking to girl - its going well, then some jealous douchebag leans in and tells her your hair is fake. = instant crash and burn!

A guy like that would get a punch in his face from me right away :woot:

Yeah that would totally redeem the situation. :shakehead:
If anything that would show exactly how insecure about it you are.

 

[cantholdmedown]

nvm

 

[spss]

guys for the love of god stop rationalizing your insecurities. it is all in YOUR HEAD. if you are insecure about your looks of course you think they play a big role in life. but where does this insecurity come from?

1) applying male to female attraction mechanism to female - male attraction mechanism, which are obviously different.
2) society: movies (they are not real!), advertisements (they want you to feel insecure, they are selling a product!) , other insecure guys and jerks, etc.
3) women spewing bs about what attracts them: "i want a nice guy", etc.

and more..

The truth is that it is all bullshit.

I challenge anyone (as i did in another thread) to find a moderately ugly guy (it may be bald, short, whatever) who is self confident, fun, acts as a man, that is not pulling girls. if you find one, then you are right, hair is a key factor. Otherwise you'll soon realize that those insecure thoughts are not based on real life experiences and facts!

Looks play a role yes, but a limited one.
women are not men, attraction is very different!

remember that while you are at home worrying about how your hair looks , there is bald guy outside f*****g with a hot girl, because he doesn't give a s**t that he's bald.

ps no disrespect to anyone. Everyone is free to do whatever he feels right to live a better life. We don't get over insecurities in one day (ask me how i know).

But i think strongly that the first step to battling hairloss is accepting that it is not a big deal.

Cheers everyone

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

Most girls don't seem to notice unless you are getting a major receding and thinning. If you're slowly receding and haven't lost more than 50% density, most girls don't really care as long as your hair is kept neat.

Usually, when a girl cares about hair, it's either a teenager who wants to see a guy with long hair (usually other teenagers, who haven't lost hair yet anyway) and the occasional girl who thinks that really thick hair is necessary. Most girls really do not give a sh*t.

I have seen girls date guys with perfect hair and then date guys with obvious receding hairlines and you know they'll be bald within a few years. It seems to make no difference.

And for the record, I don't take women's comments on celebrities and their hair loss to be legitimate representation of women (on the internet). The tone of most of their posts gives me the impression a huge number of them are either balding men posing as women to take out their hatred on other famous people with receding hairlines, or they are gay men who have feminine-sounding usernames and are often confused with women.

 

[kejan]

It matters to an extent that if you are thinning/receding you keep on top of it and keep it short and trim.

Spss, I agree with you in a way. I know a few folk who are balding and not that attractive yet they still score with good looking girls. Not every single good looking girl wants them though and they do of course get spurned by women, but right now one of my best friends is single and his hair is NW4 and diffused out to the max e.g seeing the scalp but he has fair hair so it's not as bad as if it would've been on a pale person with dark or brown hair, but he's scoring with tons of chics.
He's in good shape, he has balls (quite literally), he's outgoing, friendly and fun and can take a joke. He gets called baldy by a lot of people and he still gets chics.

If you have a combover or what I used to have (growing a moptop of hair on the top with a NW3) not good as any sign of wind blows it all over the place.

I've said this a lot probably but again, experiment with your hair - try all types of styles everything that you can do with what hair you have left. Try concealers if you wish, just try everything you can afford and do with the hair on your head. Find a style that you like and then once you've left the mirror from the bedroom. Go out into the world and enjoy the world.

For 3 years I wasted so much of my time worrying over something I couldn't really control eg hairloss, not going to places that I knew needed a dress code so I wouldn't get in with a cap or a beanie, or not going out on certain 'bad weather days' without a cap knowing that my hair would look like sh*t. I remember going to a wedding a few years ago and I was literally praying that it would not be windy or rainy that day because I knew my moptop NW3 would be blowing all over the place and the wedding photos would look awful.

I've got a GF but the last year or so since I started to care less about my hairloss, I've noticed a lot more interest in girls and I look worse hairwise than I did 3-4 years ago. It's almost certainly a confidence thing that they must be attracted to because I looked better when I was younger and never had as much interest as I'm receving now.

 

[abcdefg]

That is just like your opinion man. Saying something stupid and overly generalizing like all women just want such and such a guy is stupid. Women are not men and do not just want one certain thing. Some girls prefer different kinds of guys I mean who really cares. I want to keep my hair, surprise, because I like it not what some girl thinks.

 

[johnbbbb]

Some girls prefer different kinds of guys I mean who really cares. I want to keep my hair, surprise, because I like it not what some girl thinks.

EXACTLY! Do what makes YOU happy, don't worry about what some random chick thinks.

 

[John979]

What if you are a poof?

 

[slurms mackenzie]

What if you are a poof?

Even less chance of attracting a girl they have a built in Gaydar.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... tists.html

not sure it's a scientific term though.

 

[John979]

What I mean is that gay men have on one hand the problem of feeling less secure about yourself knowing that men are superficial but OTOH there are segments of the gay community that fetishize "skin heads."

That study is quite interesting though.

 

[slurms mackenzie]

What I mean is that gay men have on one hand the problem of feeling less secure about yourself knowing that men are superficial but OTOH there are segments of the gay community that fetishize "skin heads."

That study is quite interesting though.

Genuine question, beyond fetishizing, do you actually think hair makes a difference to you or in the gay community? Sure when most people seek out their *idealised* partner if there after a man then they'll probably go for decent locks and height, or if it's a women they ideal is some slim blonde, but i think most men chasing a women would be more than happy with a mildly chunky brunette (or whatever fate throws your way) if she was the right women which leads me on to my next point.

Looks only get you in with a shot of attracting someone, after that IMO it's actually down to physical chemistry, I've sometimes been amazed by my bodies choose one person over another, even when on paper the one i didn't choose is more attractive.

I read somewhere it might be down to our immune systems

 

[John979]

I am blessed with a very, very young looking face. At a party Sunday, a my cousin's friend (a woman) was shocked to learn I was going to be 51 in August. She thought 36-37. A couple years back, I briefly dated a guy who was 35 at the time. When we met, he thought I was younger than him.

My issue is that loosing my hair at a very early age re-inforced my somewhat shy nature and it was not until my early 30s that I became comfortable when I started fully shaving my hair. Plus, I cannot get over the idea that it would have been so easy for me to meet people if I had a full head of hair. Facially, I look at lot like Cary Elwes and right now look much better than him I might say.

Having said that, the 35 year old guy I dated a couple years back facially looked very similar to me. Actually, I saw a picture of him in his late 20s and at the time I looked more like him than he did. He did not age as well as I...

But he was a cute, "twinky" kind of guy. Did he fare any better meeting people. No. Was he more secure? No, actually less.

Finally, my shaved head, 6' tall muscular body belies my interior person and I seem to constantly be fighting off leather queens, bears and such...