Brad's Troubles

[Pondle]

Please ignore the troll! he wants you to lose your hair.

CIG is not a troll Mozart....

You guys are doing a mis-service to newbies when you try to hide information about poisonous shampoos like Nizoral. Here's a link:

http://www.rense.com/general63/nerv.htm

Rense.com - the website of an American conspiracy theorist?! Oh, grow up.

 

[Cutsinger is God]

Please ignore the troll! he wants you to lose your hair.

CIG is not a troll Mozart....

You guys are doing a mis-service to newbies when you try to hide information about poisonous shampoos like Nizoral. Here's a link:

http://www.rense.com/general63/nerv.htm

Thank you Diamond Dave for your support. You know who I think is a troll. It's that Pondle guy. Have you noticed how he follows us around constantly stalking us like we are animals. It makes me very uncomfortable. I answered all the questions yesterday and now he's stalking me asking for more answers. His behavior is quite disturbing to be honest but I guess I'll deal with him the best I can. Everytime I get in a bad situation I always look at that bust and ask myself what would Lawrence do if he were me. Believe it or not it helps.

 

[Pondle]

Thank you Diamond Dave for your support. You know who I think is a troll. It's that Pondle guy. Have you noticed how he follows us around constantly stalking us like we are animals. It makes me very uncomfortable. I answered all the questions yesterday and now he's stalking me asking for more answers. His behavior is quite disturbing to be honest but I guess I'll deal with him the best I can. Everytime I get in a bad situation I always look at that bust and ask myself what would Lawrence do if he were me. Believe it or not it helps.

Oh my God, are you a freak? Or are you just doing this tol annoy me? Anyways, I gonna continue chasing you down and exposing your vacuous nonsense. Your answers to my questions were consistently wrong and ill-informed. To recap...

a. Men went bald in the old days and I said this many times. There were other causes of baldness and the main thing was malnutrition. Back then people had to search for their own food. Bad diets, no food, starvation. You name it people suffered hairloss. I believe the average age of death was in the 30's and younger for cavemen. Speaking of cavemen, I am sure insects and mites also contributed to baldness before shampoo was invented. It was a entirely different time back then.

Male pattern baldness is NOT the same thing as other types of hair loss. Balding men do not 'lose' hair in the true sense of the word, but instead it gradually becomes fine and vellus. The transition of at least some terminal hairs into vellus hairs is a universal physiological secondary sexual characteristic. Clin Endocrinol 1994;40:439¬-57.

b. all men who use shampoo eventually do go bald. The problem with this is people die at all different ages. Some men probaby would of went bald from shampooing, they just didn't live long enough to experienc the baldness. Car accidents, cancer, etc.

The prerequisites for premature androgenetic alopecia are a genetic predisposition and sufficient levels of androgens. Eunuchs and men with 5AR deficiency do not go bald. Every white man possesses the autosomal inherited predisposition, and 96% lose hair to some degree, but because of the variabity of gene expression far fewer have appreciable premature hair loss. Am J Anat 1942;71:451-¬80. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1960;20:1309¬-18. Dawber RPR, ed. Diseases of the hair and scalp. Oxford: Blackwell Science, 1997. Ann N Y Acad Sci 1951;53:708¬-28

c. regarding women, see b.

Simply false. The reason why women don’t lose their hair to the same extent as men is because androgen receptor content in female frontal hair follicles is approximately 40% lower than in men, and frontal hair follicles in women have 3 and 3.5 times less 5-AR types I and II, respectively, than frontal hair follicles in men. Journal of Investigative Dermatology (1997) 109, 296–300

d. All men apply shampoo pretty much the same way. They apply it to the front or the top of the heads and according to Cutsinger, this is "ground zero" for the hairloss to occur. Years and years of acid burns will eventually cause a bald spot and once it starts, it spreads, you will get the horseshoe pattern and that's the area where the shampoo is concentrated the most and for the longest periods of time. The back and the sides get very little because of gravity. The horseshoe top is where the shampoo sits flat until water washes it away. You see now.

As Doctor has said, chemicals in rinse-off shampoo products do not have sufficient time to absorb into the skin and, even if they did, there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that they damage hair follicles - quite the contrary, according to some of the information that Bryan has posted e.g. "Induction of hair growth by skin irritants and its relation to skin protein kinase C isoforms." Br J Dermatol 1999 Apr;140(4):616-23.

The reason why the back and sides of the head are not affected by male pattern baldness is because these regions contain far lower levels of androgen receptors. It’s nothing to do with where you start or finish applying shampoo. J Endocrinol. 1998 Jan;156(1):59-65.

e. I can't explain the use of androgen on scalp hair

Exactly. Because you ignore the science.

just like you can't explain why Lawrence, Diamond Dave, Widowspeak, and FirestormUK are regrowing huge amounts of hair by cutting out the suds.

None of you are regrowing hair. Your hair may appear thicker because of the accumulated grease and grime, and you may have naturally reached your eventual Norwood scale rating, but you certainly won't regrow any hair. There is no biological possibility of this happening. At all. Ever. Trust science.

f. There is no proven effectivness except for some peach fuzz and great marketing by the chemical companies to young 20 somethings who don't know any better and are only worried about getting laid so they all get on drugs in order to have sex or to find a mate before they bald. Follow the money trail and you will find a pile a crap at the end of your chemical rainbow.

Wrong. We have evidence from randomised placebo-controlled trials that finasteride and dustasteride regrow hair and prevent further hair loss. This evidence has been subjected to peer review and published in reputable scientific journals.

 

[barcafan]

Cutsinger, where are your results, by the way?


Cutsinger Is God's FIRST POST On GourmetStyleWellness

I have just signed up here hoping to get my hair back. I am a balding mailman looking to get my hair back so I look good on my route. I have not tried an commercial products though I have dabbled into putting fenugreek seeds, lemon juice, apple juice, and crushed apple seeds on my head. I also bought a device that tips myself upside down but that only seemed to give me headaches the next day and no extra hair. My latest attempt has been not washing my hair with any shampoo and so far it's been over two years doing this with no results but I am listening to other people that claim results so I will give it another year or until something better comes along.

An excerpt from Cutsinger's post in this thread.

Take it from an expert on hair regrowth and degrowth be001g. You don't need to take anything. That's right you heard me right the first time. All you need is to try to use non SLS shampoo or just wash with water. It's safe and your hair will be healthy in time from all the chemical baths you've been giving it over the years.

An expert? Yeah your first post on this forum really backs that up, doesnt it?

Oh boy, does anyone else see the BLATANT contradiction?

Do tell, Cutsinger, why is that you offer the EXACT same advice that you took to so many people on this forum even though you know it did not work for you?


AMAZING SUCESS CUTSINGER! AND ALL YOU DID WAS NOT WASH YOUR HAIR FOR 2 YEARS!!!!!


This pretty much shows how much Cutsinger is a troll who, in reality, is just disgusted with himself. It also proves that he'll give everyone else the same shlt advice he took and watch them lose hair so he feels better about himself.

So there you have it folks, just when i thought C.I.G couldnt be any more thoroughly owned by pondle i stumbled upon that little beauty.

It'll remain here in case he tries to edit it.

If there's ANYONE on the planet who deserves to be bald, its you.

 

[Cutsinger is God]

I gonna continue chasing you down

Is this not behavior of what a troll does? Now I know how they came up with the term "mad scientist". Remember, there's crazy people in just about every profession. Look at that woman astronaut. She was so obsessed over an issue she drove from Texas to Florida to "chase down" some other woman who she thought was obsessed over her boyfriend. Pondle, maybe you might not realize this but you are clearly showing similar behavior as this woman all over a bottle of shampoo. :shock:

I say this because I am concerned about you. I understand you can't handle what Dave and I are saying but you need to cool it a little with the questions. I honestly don't even read what you say because it's just all too obsessive for me. You wreak of it. Sorry. Take off the lab coat and go outside and get some air mate.

 

[Johnny24601]

re:

To the original poster, I am sorry that your question has not been addressed as much as it should have.
IMO, your hairline looks pretty dam good and at most you MAY have some degree of male pattern baldness, like many men. Normally the individual, if they are totally honest to themselves, can figure out if their hairline has changed. A good start would be to try to dig up some old photographs of yourself in your early twenties and compare them to today.
There are only two FDA approved treatments for male pattern baldness (finasteride and minoxidil) and many people use an anti dandruff shampoo to help the scalp stay in good shape. Many people believe in a multitude of other treatments and they are well documented on this site. Most treatments come with a degree of risk and can be costly for some. Others come with less risk but many more unknowns because they have not been adequately studied. Therefore, your best approach is to spend a few weeks researching male pattern baldness and making an informed decision for yourself, which is probably true for anything in life. I for one, prefer to stick to proven treatments but other do not. Normally you would get more assistance from this site but currently things are a little crazy.
As a side note, this is a joke, the guy asks a question and it is taken over by the DD and Cutsinger show. The premise, as I understood it, for this website was to discuss hairloss treatments based on real scientific study, this is not happening. The shampoo is killing us theory has not been accepted by any medical journal anywhere and therefore it is experimental. It does not belong in this section of the website, otherwise there is no reason to have the experimental portion of gourmetstylewellness.com......correct? Look it is one thing to claim that SLS and shampoos MAY not be good for the overall follicle health of men with male pattern baldness, at least then there can be some real discussion. These guys (DD and Cut) are making the claim that shampoos are the cause of haiross and by simply not washing your hair, you will go back to a Norwood-1. THAT IS SO UNRESPOPNSIBLE! It has not place on this portion of the website.
Cassin, unless you want this site to turn into a laughing stock I suggest you step in.

 

[Diamond Dave]

You know who I think is a troll. It's that Pondle guy. Have you noticed how he follows us around constantly stalking us like we are animals.

Yeah CIG I've noticed how Poodle follows us.
I kinda like the attention to be honest. He's our first lackey.

I'm watching the PM's I receive to make sure Poodle or one of his soldiers doesn't try to infiltrate my classroom.

 

[Cutsinger is God]

Barfafan, what I didn't tell you was my scalp is feeling better and better from not shampooing. It's in the healing stage and slowly recovering from the 20 plus years of toxic chemical SLS baths that I have been giving it.

Yes, I have been not shampooing for two plus years now and no regrowth to report but the point is I didn't spend a penny and Lawrence is over 60 years old and he's finally starting to get major regrowth after being a bowling ball prior to going grunge. I figure just another year or so and my regrowth should finally start to kick in as well as I am younger than Lawrence and he says this all in Get It BAck. The younger you are and the less you shampooed the quicker you are to respond.

We have a guy named Widowspeak who is really regrowing hair like crazy. Check out his photos and you will be speechless and when you do come back here and say I told you so. The same goes for Firestorm Uk and even Lawrence himself but because he's a Norwood 7 after being a bowling ball, people are not as impressed. The pictures at GIB are worth more than any words I can type. Please Barfafan go to GIB and report back. Thank you.

 

[Johnny24601]

re:

Cutsinger has NO RESPONSE concerning his blatant contradiction.
What is going on with these two guys? Are they insane? Do they just like to annoy people? Could arguing on forums simply be the highlight of their life?
I truly think the only way to stop this is for a moderator to direct these two to the experimental section. I am very disappointed that a Site that I depend on for quality information has been hijacked by this topic and all because two guys.

 

[Beethoven]

CIG is not a troll Mozart....

lol, I recently thought about changing my nick every two months to another composer as a tribute.

Pondle gave some very good answers backed with science proofs to your claims.
You keep avoiding answering Pondle's points and just concentrate on fighting with us. Why don't you answers Pondle's points?

You are very good on fighting with people, punching back when you're insulted, but you are very very weak with supplying any real proof to your claims

Give us a link to a real article, published in a real medicine journal, with the names of the researchers.

You seems to enjoy all this fighting, and some of your wordgames are good, but on the science stuff you are losing. you were demolished easily by Pondle and barcafan

 

[global]

CIG & DD are both bitter bald guys who want everyone else to be bald to by promoting crazy theories about shampoo.

Even the site they promote admits that not shampooing doesn't regrow hair.

Don't listen to them.

 

[Diamond Dave]

Re: re:

I am very disappointed that a Site that I depend on for quality information has been hijacked by this topic and all because two guys.

I do not wish to hijack any site and with 7 forum members now PMing me I believe some people are obviously taking us seriously but they know the bias on this site toward commercial topicals and poisonous shampoos like Nizoral that they won't post in the forum. That's a shame.

 

[barcafan]

Whatever we'll see what cassin says on the matter.

Go to the experimental section, that's what its there for.

I've pretty much done all the arguing im going to do in this thread, let the masses decide for themselves.

 

[Johnny24601]

re:

Diamond, talk all you want but in the frggin EXPERIMENTAL treatment section. Then all seven of your buddies can go there and the hundreds of other members can get back to discussing treatments that have supporting evidence of success and not internet hearsay.
Do you not accept that your theory is experimental?
Cutsinger actually said he has had no success for two years of no shampoo but believes things will change soon.....you have got to be kidding me. How do you argue with someone such as this......

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results., Albert Einstein[/quote]

 

[Diamond Dave]

Whatever we'll see what cassin says on the matter.

Go to the experimental section, that's what its there for.

The topics I created here were moved to the experimental section barcafan and I have not created any new topics in this section as you or the mods can plainly see. I am only responding to other members comments on these threads which you'll agree I have a right to do.

What makes you think you run this place?

 

[Cutsinger is God]

Whatever we'll see what cassin says on the matter.

Go to the experimental section, that's what its there for.

The topics I created here were moved to the experimental section barcafan and I have not created any new topics in this section as you or the mods can plainly see. I am only responding to other members comments on these threads which you'll agree I have a right to do.

What makes you think you run this place?

Exactly Diamond Dave. It was barfafan that ripped into me on this thread and all I did was offer my opinion on a guy that was asking for opinions or advice. It's funny how all the idiots that are responding are the ones that are telling us to go to the experimantal section which I would gladly do but the morons are the ones bringing it up here. Who started the shampoo does not cause baldness? Was it Dave or me? and where did they post it? in the experimental section? nope.

 

[Johnny24601]

Take it from an expert on hair regrowth and degrowth be001g. You don't need to take anything. That's right you heard me right the first time. All you need is to try to use non SLS shampoo or just wash with water. It's safe and your hair will be healthy in time from all the chemical baths you've been giving it over the years.

 

[Guest]

If shampoo causes baldness, why do some homeless people have bald heads?

Some of these people have been homeless for a long time. Where is their regrowth?

 

[Format]

Hmm, if someone at the age of 19 had pretty much the exact hairline as brad, would you guys say it was most likely a mature hairline? No thining, no shedding, just that hairline.

 

[Guest]

Moin, moin,


Brad, don´t listen to these people who are talking about all this "mature hairline" bullshit. You are balding and you need to do something about it! I recommend you to use 1mg of Finasteride ED. This will stop further balding in about 80% of all cases, then you might go for the Rogaine foam and apply it to the hairline, maybe the crown if you are thinning there as well. This might give you a good chance to lower it a little bit.


All in all I wouldn´t say your hairline is too bad. You have a strong island in the middle and at the moment are between Norwood 2-2.5. Just make sure it doesn´t get any worse. Good Luck, mate!