Can Telogen Effluvium accelerate male pattern baldness?????????????

[rapidfrontal]

I'll ask this again, just in case somebody out there knows something.

I have been diagnosed with Telogen Effluvium by my Derm, but my shedding continues. I firs noticed the shedding in Dec and today, less than 4 months later my hairline is screwed. I went from a perfect hairline to a Norwood 3+ in about 3.5 months. I do believe I have or had Telogen Effluvium, but has anyone every heard of Telogen Effluvium causing male pattern baldness to accelerate by about 10X its normal rate?

My temples receed slightly noticeably every 24hours and I can't believe that it doesn't have anything to do with Telogen Effluvium that I was diagnosede with.

Any insight from anybody??

 

[chewbaca]

interesting post......but the Q is

can Telogen Effluvium and male pattern baldness exist together? u have to ask thos epple who expereinced both before.....

 

[rapidfrontal]

interesting post......but the Q is

can Telogen Effluvium and male pattern baldness exist together? u have to ask thos epple who expereinced both before.....

Well, I think I am one of those people. I had no visible signs of hairloss 4 months ago. There was an "inciting event" about 2 months before that and my shed began in Dec. Now I have the hairline of of 70 year old.

Dying to hear from somebody that has either had male pattern baldness accelerated by Telogen Effluvium or somebody who has had hairloss that changes perceptibily within 24 hrs.

 

[NHLfan]

From what I've heard, Telogen Effluvium doesn't just affect the hair on top of your head, but that u can lose body hair (chest, nads, etc). It's a different mechanism than DHT induced male pattern baldness, so you're likely to have hair loss elsewhere too.

I thought (was hoping?) that I had had it at one point since I went thru a rather stressful time last summer, about 3 months before I noticed my hair was thinning. But all my body hair was fine and it was just the hair on top (vertex) that was diffuse thinning. So I've accepted it as male pattern baldness. There's a small part of me that kinda hopes it's NOT male pattern baldness and that I'll grow old with a full head of hair...but I highly doubt it.[/b]

 

[Mickey]

From what I've heard, Telogen Effluvium doesn't just affect the hair on top of your head, but that u can lose body hair (chest, nads, etc). It's a different mechanism than DHT induced male pattern baldness, so you're likely to have hair loss elsewhere too.

I thought (was hoping?) that I had had it at one point since I went thru a rather stressful time last summer, about 3 months before I noticed my hair was thinning. But all my body hair was fine and it was just the hair on top (vertex) that was diffuse thinning. So I've accepted it as male pattern baldness. There's a small part of me that kinda hopes it's male pattern baldness and that I'll grow old with a full head of hair...but I highly doubt it.

Telogen Effluvium can affect body hair or its just confined to the scalp.It depends how severe you got it.

 

[wotsthedeal]

I think I have a Telogen Effluvium because I am shedding unusual amounts of body hair as well as scalp hair. A "pull test" on my arm pit hair will usually result in 5 or 6 hairs. I'm basically losing hair from everywhere I have it (head, arms, legs, pubes, etc.)

 

[lossing my hair]

I'll ask this again, just in case somebody out there knows something.

I have been diagnosed with Telogen Effluvium by my Derm, but my shedding continues. I firs noticed the shedding in Dec and today, less than 4 months later my hairline is screwed. I went from a perfect hairline to a Norwood 3+ in about 3.5 months. I do believe I have or had Telogen Effluvium, but has anyone every heard of Telogen Effluvium causing male pattern baldness to accelerate by about 10X its normal rate?

My temples receed slightly noticeably every 24hours and I can't believe that it doesn't have anything to do with Telogen Effluvium that I was diagnosede with.

Any insight from anybody??

to be honest, from your pass posts and today it's more likely you have male pattern baldness that was accelarated by Telogen Effluvium just like me. I think you even had a brother that was bald by his 20's. My experience and yours are very similar, but I don't have recession hairline and mines seem like the Female Pattern Baldness type. I hope your on treatment. I'm on Propecia. Thinking it was only Telogen Effluvium i lost half of my hair on top, maybe if i would have been on Propecia it would have been a different experience.

 

[Mickey]

That sounds the same pattern as i have diffused on the top.Lost roughly 50% density in just over 3 months of heavy shedding.Didnt you see any signs of regrowth at all.I have regrowth sprouting up all over the place it looks thin im hoping it will thicken up when it matures.but the vertex even though there is slight improvement it still looks a mess im not sure whether to jump on treatment myself or wait.

 

[rapidfrontal]

to be honest, from your pass posts and today it's more likely you have male pattern baldness that was accelarated by Telogen Effluvium just like me. I think you even had a brother that was bald by his 20's. My experience and yours are very similar, but I don't have recession hairline and mines seem like the Female Pattern Baldness type. I hope your on treatment. I'm on Propecia. Thinking it was only Telogen Effluvium i lost half of my hair on top, maybe if i would have been on Propecia it would have been a different experience.[/quote]

I am on Propecia and have been for almost 3 months with little benefit so far, if any. I think I agree with you about Telogen Effluvium accelerating male pattern baldness. My hair is so thin on top it is not even funny and I sure would like to see some regrowth soon, if indeed Telogen Effluvium did play a role. My hairline, however, is receeding very quickly.

 

[lossing my hair]

I lost 40% percent of my top in a 3 month period after a severe stressful chronic experience. In my mind i was so sure that it was Telogen Effluvium, because the rapid way it happend, how it diffused in a unique pattern, and after experiecing a sever stressful time. Those are all signs of Telogen Effluvium, but i gave up on it, My hair loss is only noticible on top, in every search I do theres no study or document that says Telogen Effluvium can occur on top only, unless is caused by the initial of male pattern baldness.
I have a 1# guard hair cut, so maybe that's why when i shower i only pick up 1 or 2 hair only when i pass my hand over my hair. but before i cut my hair to a 1# i had long hair and my hair totally stop. My only hope is since i lost my hair recently to recover at least half of what i lost and i will be as confidence as i once was. My advise to you is, sometimes hopping for the imposible sometimes at the long run hurts more. I'm talking about believing you will grow back all your hair on top, when you recover from Telogen Effluvium. Give faith to propecia. Remember where even you have hair, it's possible to grow and thicken those vellous hair around it that you can't see and thicken your existing hair. Good luck

 

[Mickey]

Thanks for your reply losing my hair even though ive lost mainly from the top i also have lost a margin of hair which has spread from the vertex going down the right side past my ear.The regrowth is doing well in the front and new growth is sprouting up.Further back its gradually sprouting up but isnt making much impact as my hair is still long i might get it shaved and then the regrowth might be more noticable and then see whats what and if i dont see much improvement in a month or so i will consider to get on some treatment.

 

[rapidfrontal]

I really don't expect to recover what I've lost, but I'd be awfully happy if I could keep what I have now. You are right about hoping for Telogen Effluvium in the long run hurting more, I've already experienced that. My father the Derm continues to think I have Telogen Effluvium and that pretty much everything is coming back with the exception of the obvious male pattern baldness frontal condition I have. He's starting to hedge a bit, though. I am totally baffled by the whole thing.

 

[Mickey]

I know what you mean about being baffled.Its just a waiting game i went back to the doctors because i was still a bit concerned and he had a look and still said mines down to stress because he knows what i have been through previous to all this.And i even said about my vertex and he said give it time and it will comeback probally not to what it was but you will have coverage :? Have to admit i added Biotin to my vitamins 5 weeks ago and i can see a bit more improvement since taking it.

 

[lossing my hair]

That sounds the same pattern as i have diffused on the top.Lost roughly 50% density in just over 3 months of heavy shedding.Didnt you see any signs of regrowth at all.I have regrowth sprouting up all over the place it looks thin im hoping it will thicken up when it matures.but the vertex even though there is slight improvement it still looks a mess im not sure whether to jump on treatment myself or wait.

I didn't see this post the first time. i guess when scrolling down i skipped it. to answer your questions. I havent seen any regrowth or noticible regrowth, however i have a ceaser at the moment so it's hard to detect and my Hair loss occured around 4 month ago so is still to early. I'm still going through stressful moments, but slowly recovering. If i was you i would start treatment as soon as posible. your taking a big risk since your pattern of hair loss is a male pattern baldness, not Telogen Effluvium. maybe Telogen Effluvium was what accelated male pattern baldness, maybe we will have additional regrowth from Telogen Effluvium, but the major caused of our hair loss is male pattern baldness accelarated by Telogen Effluvium. I so much believe that's what happend to me. In 3 month I lost 40% of my scalp. maybe i was loosing hair before that very slowly with out me noticing, but I'm for sure that I lost the majority in a 3 month period after a avery stressful and chronic event in my life. i put all my faith on propecia and so far it's working. I havent even gotten that propecia shed many here talk about. good luck

 

[Mickey]

This is roughly what mine looks like ( case 1 T.E) i say roughly as mine isnt as bad as i still have coverage but under a harsh light i can see the diffused pattern With some loss ging down my right side from the vertex to where my hair ends..My shedding has gone right down to 8-12 hairs per wash and its more or less maintained that amount for 3 months now with a couple of times where it did go up to about 20 ish.I think i might shave it a grade 2 and see how thin it is and whether any of the regrowth makes any impact and order some propecia if it dont look any better.

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[Guest]

If you have Telogen Effluvium and male pattern baldness together then the logical answer is yes, your hair will fall out much faster. It won’t accelerate the actual male pattern baldness process but it would certainly give the impression to others that you are losing hair like no tomorrow. But the Telogen Effluvium affected hair should grow back only to be slowly attacked by DHT over time...

 

[Mickey]

Will minoxidil be any good for somebody in my position Rather than take pills?

 

[lossing my hair]

the type 1 hair loss is exactly what i have also. I'm for sure i went through a Telogen Effluvium shed those 3 month i lost half of my hair on top, but did it accelarated male pattern baldness? that's just a risk that I'm not taking.
maybe u don't need propecia, if your hair loss has stopped and since you actually had seen regrowth.

 

[Mickey]

Thats the problem Doctor said T.E. is mainly a waiting game nobody can estimate how severe it will get or the recovery period for regrowth to get estabilished but like you The question is can you afford to wait.I dont want to be here in a few months time saying i wish i started treatment earlier.And there again i dont want to start treating it when i might not need too.The whole thing is just a f*****g mind game :roll:

 

[rapidfrontal]

Thats the problem Doctor said T.E. is mainly a waiting game nobody can estimate how severe it will get or the recovery period for regrowth to get estabilished but like you The question is can you afford to wait.I dont want to be here in a few months time saying i wish i started treatment earlier.And there again i dont want to start treating it when i might not need too.The whole thing is just a f*****g mind game :roll:

Well, you're right it is a mind game and it sucks, but I went on Propecia just in case. My Father's opinion is that it sucks to start medication without actually knowing for certain if you have Telogen Effluvium or not. If it turns out to be Telogen Effluvium you might actually think its the Propecia and you'll then stay on a medication unnecessarily indefinitely. I know you can relate.