CB vs RU

[patienceiskey]

purchasing 10 grams of CB and planning on using the same vehicle as RU keeping it at 8% concentration. Just short and simple, for those of you who may have tried both or just the general consensus. Is CB or RU more effective? I've heard mixed reactions.

I will be using CB at a concentration of 8%

 

[FCKW36]

Are you rich?

 

[DontWant2BeBald]

why dont you try an acccually proven anti androgen as a topical such as flutamide.

Im amazed that guys here drop so much money on research chemicals that have no scientific backing

 

[FCKW36]

flutamide as a topical is absolutley bull****. Not even helped a single person.

 

[hellouser]

why dont you try an acccually proven anti androgen as a topical such as flutamide.

Im amazed that guys here drop so much money on research chemicals that have no scientific backing

Cosmo Pharmaceuticals would disagree.

 

[Felipe302]

The thing that disappointed me about cb is that some guys are reporting side effects at doses as low as 20mg. Well that's just like ru in terms of sides I guess...most people also don't get sides at 20 mg of ru.

 

[charlie76761]

I think Cosmo would def disagree

However, the issue is that we're not actually using CB. A contact in pharma informed that CB is fairly complex to make, and as of yet there is not one producer in China. It's all fake.

Would explain not one positive story backed up photos.

 

[hellouser]

The thing that disappointed me about cb is that some guys are reporting side effects at doses as low as 20mg. Well that's just like ru in terms of sides I guess...most people also don't get sides at 20 mg of ru.

How? That's not possible. CB works only locally and once it hits the blood stream its almost immediately metabolized into an inactive form.

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I think Cosmo would def disagree

However, the issue is that we're not actually using CB. A contact in pharma informed that CB is fairly complex to make, and as of yet there is not one producer in China. It's all fake.

Would explain not one positive story backed up photos.

It's expensive. And if the dosage they recommend (50mg twice a day i think) is really required, then it's really out of reach for nearly all of us. It's like $150/1g and that's with a group buy. 100mg/day won't last you very long.

 

[DontWant2BeBald]

Cosmo Pharmaceuticals would disagree.

until there is a clinical trial released there is no proof that the drug hold anti androgenic effects. ENjoy rubbing all these lotions on your bald head

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flutamide as a topical is absolutley bull****. Not even helped a single person.

very few people have accually tired it. you have to accually get the drug yourself and make the gel yourself its not as simple as putting it in alchohol and pg and hoping that it works. I think your efforts would be better spent using a drug that is accually proven to work systemically.

Ru is such a myth. I cant belive people actually use that crap
As for CB who knows what it is, if it even works or has the potential to work.

I have ordered the ingreidients I need to make the flutmaide gel and will update you guys soon. Hopefully it will put a stop to all you poor souls wasting your money on Pixie dust.

 

[IvanXproject]

Hellouser, do you know if it is possible to use a brand with 60 % alcohol instead of Everclear (95 % alcohol) when you make a ethanol/ PG vehicle for CB?

 

[hellouser]

Hellouser, do you know if it is possible to use a brand with 60 % alcohol instead of Everclear (95 % alcohol) when you make a ethanol/ PG vehicle for CB?

I wouldn't take the chance. You're paying top dollar for CB and using a cheap vehicle. That's like buying a Ferrari but putting in a Ford engine.

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until there is a clinical trial released there is no proof that the drug hold anti androgenic effects. ENjoy rubbing all these lotions on your bald head

You do know they completed Phase I clinical trials and are now in Phase II, right?

 

[FCKW36]

until there is a clinical trial released there is no proof that the drug hold anti androgenic effects. ENjoy rubbing all these lotions on your bald head

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very few people have accually tired it. you have to accually get the drug yourself and make the gel yourself its not as simple as putting it in alchohol and pg and hoping that it works. I think your efforts would be better spent using a drug that is accually proven to work systemically.

Ru is such a myth. I cant belive people actually use that crap
As for CB who knows what it is, if it even works or has the potential to work.

I have ordered the ingreidients I need to make the flutmaide gel and will update you guys soon. Hopefully it will put a stop to all you poor souls wasting your money on Pixie dust.

Brah, there was a big hype in the german forum with flutamide 2 or 3 years ago. Dozen of people used it for moths and not a single one had success.

 

[hilbert]

we're dealing with rumours only...
i'll add one: i've learnt from a pharmacist with a degree in chem and a long experience in compounding that cb is very similar to hydrocortisone butyrrate, so the synthesis is not that difficult. if the chinese are scamming us, they're doing that intentionally.

second, 50mg b.i.d. is the poc dose, so the effective dose is likely to be smaller than that. i'm sticking to 50 ed.

third, imho the people at cosmo know much more than what's published. otherwise, they would have stopped it.
among the pharma informers in italy, they all already know that the acne cream will work, and the male pattern baldness lotion will do as well.

 

[patienceiskey]

Just bought 6 Bio WNT agonist 10 grams as well. Can it be used with same vehicle as RU?

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Also just wondering what people thought about the safety of 6 Bio WNT agonist

 

[DontWant2BeBald]

I wouldn't take the chance. You're paying top dollar for CB and using a cheap vehicle. That's like buying a Ferrari but putting in a Ford engine.

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You do know they completed Phase I clinical trials and are now in Phase II, right?

phase 1 is for safety lmfao. Have fun

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Brah, there was a big hype in the german forum with flutamide 2 or 3 years ago. Dozen of people used it for moths and not a single one had success.

Yea im telling you its not as simple as just buying a gel off someone or putting flutamide in alchohol. You accually have to replicate the study and how it was used.

Logically speaking flutamide is so much more reasonalbe to experiment with. First of all it is proven to be an extermely strong anit androgen systemically so it is logicall that if it can reach the follicles that it will be strong as well. Secondly you have no idea if any of the chemicals you are using now are accually anti-androgenic.
Lastly you can give me any reasons why flutamide wouldnt work other than you think a few guys tried it and it didnt work

Can I have the link to the thread btw of the german guys that used it for months

 

[Dench57]

Logically speaking flutamide is so much more reasonalbe to experiment with. First of all it is proven to be an extermely strong anit androgen systemically so it is logicall that if it can reach the follicles that it will be strong as well. Secondly you have no idea if any of the chemicals you are using now are accually anti-androgenic.
Lastly you can give me any reasons why flutamide wouldnt work other than you think a few guys tried it and it didnt work

Can I have the link to the thread btw of the german guys that used it for months

Flutamide is an old school AA, its been around since the 70s. People have been slapping it on their heads since the 90s. It works but it causes nasty sides.

RU is more potent and comes with less sides. There is no reason to use flutamide ahead of RU.

CB is less potent, and comes with practically 0 sides.

 

[DontWant2BeBald]

Flutamide is an old school AA, its been around since the 70s. People have been slapping it on their heads since the 90s. It works but it causes nasty sides.

RU is more potent and comes with less sides. There is no reason to use flutamide ahead of RU.

CB is less potent, and comes with practically 0 sides.

How can anyone believe this crap? RU is more potent but causes less sides? Think about that for a second. You know nothing about the other 2 research compounds whereas there is so much data on flutamide

Im not even saying use flutamide, there are other options too. All Im saying is dont use unknown research chemicals.

There is no one on this forum, that Im aware of, who is balding and has maintained their hair using only RU. All of them are on minoxidil too.

Its so ridiculous that something with so little proof to back it has a better reputation that something with all the proof you could possibly ask for.


Ill make my log, when I get my products. hopefully nothing goes wrong and im able to make the gel. Ill keep you guys updated.

 

[Swoop]

Agree, CB-03-01 is highly likely, almost certainly less potent than flutamide and RU58841.

 

[hilbert]

Agree, CB-03-01 is highly likely, almost certainly less potent than flutamide and RU58841.

I'd be very curious to see the effects of CB and RU same %.
E.g. I'm probably seeing something (maintenance -- knock wood) with CB 2% (50mg ED), would I get the same with RU 50mg?
Afaik, people here are using RU 5-8% and see results.

dollar-by-dollar, probably RU is more potent than CB. But mg-by-mg?

 

[Swoop]

I'd be very curious to see the effects of CB and RU same %.
E.g. I'm probably seeing something (maintenance -- knock wood) with CB 2% (50mg ED), would I get the same with RU 50mg?
Afaik, people here are using RU 5-8% and see results.

dollar-by-dollar, probably RU is more potent than CB. But mg-by-mg?

Yeah mg-by-mg, that's what I mean (based on the data we have). A comparable hair count study of both compounds with a high N= would be great, but we know that isn't going to come.

You probably would yeah, only one way to find out. That being said if you are maintaining without any side effects that's great right ?