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chewbaca

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Dont worry guys HM is basically cell culturing which has been proven, done, mastered decades ago.. Hm is not messing round with genes nor is it doing any invasive surgery that's worst than traditional hair transplant...

I dont see anyreason why it will fail the FDA

The problem facing HM now is its foolproof effectiveness...if it works as claimed when IMPLANTED into your head...
 

Private Ryan

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chewbaca:
hopefully it will be approve within 5years and it will come to our country soon when it hit the market...hope the price will not be out of reach by common people...

maybe we can go for it together... haha...
 

chewbaca

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Private Ryan said:
chewbaca:
hopefully it will be approve within 5years and it will come to our country soon when it hit the market...hope the price will not be out of reach by common people...

maybe we can go for it together... haha...

U from singapore? as u know i know , in our country sure it will come asap since singapore is the medical hub in South east asia but it is going to be damn ex.
 

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It may be expensive in the beginning, but I think ARI or Intercytex will realize that young men want to get it too and need it cheap. If it's too expensive, no one will get it and it will cause a lower demand despite some people will still want to pay for it. It needs to be cheap.

They said that's it going to be way less expensive than a hair transplant.

The only thing that causes me worry if the hair will grow after the cells have been injected.

In case you guys are wondering, I contacted Aderans by e-mail and they said they'll see if volunteers are needed for their trials and will send my e-mail to the appropriate person.
 

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so once a person gets this done, they are essentially 'cured' for the rest of their life, or will the hair fall out again after a couple of years?
 

nervx

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so once a person gets this done, they are essentially 'cured' for the rest of their life, or will the hair fall out again after a couple of years?

It'll probably fall out with old age but by the time it does you'll be more worried about keeping your feces in than your hair.
 

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Fingers crossed that the hair that grows (if it grows) is nice and healthy, and that it cycles normally.

mmmm...hope it's out in 5 years time.

Hopefully bosley dosnt corner the market for too long.....
 

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One thing im interested in is what will happen to the hair transplant clinics.

Surely, if HM is cheaper, as someone here stated, then the hair transplant clinics will go out of business. Or lower their prices heaps. Or become HM clinics :p

Either way if it is cheaper, HM will have a very positive effect on the anti-hairloss market :)

...however, i dont see how HM could be cheaper. They have to clone hairs as well as plant them in, you'd think that would be a much more involved procedure.
 

nervx

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...however, i dont see how HM could be cheaper. They have to clone hairs as well as plant them in, you'd think that would be a much more involved procedure.

They take a small sample off the back of your head toss it in a dish, it multiplies itself then they use needles to put the juice back into your scalp. It's very simple and straight forward, it's not like a hair transplant where you have to pick one hair at a time and move it to it's new location.
 

chewbaca

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The procedure is simple and straightforward. as simple as going to the dentist.
 

powersam

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i don't want to get too excited about this, but wouldnt it be great to change your focus from 'i need to keep my hair at all costs' to 'i need to keep it till HM comes out'.

because we all know finasteride/dutasteride/min etc will not keep it on our heads forever
 
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This thread has definitely reinvigorated my hopes, I just have to hold out for a few more years- great to see two companies battling it out like this, as they should, it will be a massive money maker. This really is phenomenal to have a definite timeline- not just hearsay and 5 years this, 10 years that. This is definitely the most positive news I have seen..
 

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i hope this will happen in few years !!!

im tired of all this medicines and crap , i feel like im an old person when im taking all these stuff for hairloss :evil:
 

powersam

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you feel like an oldy taking a bit of msm and biotin a day? i know what you mean, but its the application of topicals that is the real hassle.
 

Wezz

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PowerSam said:
you feel like an oldy taking a bit of msm and biotin a day? i know what you mean, but its the application of topicals that is the real hassle.


dont forget minoxidil and folligen on my current regimen, plus i still need alot more to treat hairloss , i dont even know if other drugs will work or something
 

powersam

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yeah i could have phrased that better was agreeing that the topicals are the nasty part, so time consuming and appearance altering.
 
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Guys i hate to dampen your hopes...but Im going to add something on with me studying biology and all that...I personally think this will be a VERY expensive operation...main reason...yes they can pluck out one of your hairs...and then clone it...but you do realize the cell is dead once you pluck it...it cannot spotaneously regenerate...you need thousands upon thousands of stem cells to recreate all these hair follicles...needless to say stem cells are a rarity as they are produced only once and there is a limited supply...secondly...there is the issue that perhaps, once we implant it back in, the hair follicle still may fall out...because after all....maybe there is some kind of structural difference in the sides of our heads that simply allows DHT to be much a much stronger attacker on the crowns of our heads...maybe its some kind of internal mechanism that cannot ever be altered...boys I think its much further away than 5 years.
 

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I am sure Bosley must have thought about all this before spending thousands and thoudands of dollars in this. ALso, I am sure they must have tested it on some humans too, hence trying for an FDA now?
 

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TheMoose said:
Guys i hate to dampen your hopes...but Im going to add something on with me studying biology and all that...I personally think this will be a VERY expensive operation...main reason...yes they can pluck out one of your hairs...and then clone it...but you do realize the cell is dead once you pluck it...it cannot spotaneously regenerate...you need thousands upon thousands of stem cells to recreate all these hair follicles...needless to say stem cells are a rarity as they are produced only once and there is a limited supply...secondly...there is the issue that perhaps, once we implant it back in, the hair follicle still may fall out...because after all....maybe there is some kind of structural difference in the sides of our heads that simply allows DHT to be much a much stronger attacker on the crowns of our heads...maybe its some kind of internal mechanism that cannot ever be altered...boys I think its much further away than 5 years.

They're using dermal papilla cells and they don't clone anything. They also don't pluck any hairs, they remove a small biopsy consisting of about 100-120 hairs and let the cells multiply in a culture.

When the company that is developing the product says it can be done very cheaply i don't think you need to be worried about cost.

ALso, I am sure they must have tested it on some humans too, hence trying for an FDA now?

Yes human testing began last year. Phase I consists of microdoses to test for side effects and one of the intercytex employess is taking part in the tests. He grew around 65 hairs in the area that a penny would cover... pretty good, not quite teen hair density but again the dosage is a fraction of the final amount planned for use.
 
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