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[Wezz]

can't wait few years for this :hairy:

 

[DaSand]

Guys i hate to dampen your hopes...but Im going to add something on with me studying biology and all that...I personally think this will be a VERY expensive operation...main reason...yes they can pluck out one of your hairs...and then clone it...but you do realize the cell is dead once you pluck it...it cannot spotaneously regenerate...you need thousands upon thousands of stem cells to recreate all these hair follicles...needless to say stem cells are a rarity as they are produced only once and there is a limited supply...secondly...there is the issue that perhaps, once we implant it back in, the hair follicle still may fall out...because after all....maybe there is some kind of structural difference in the sides of our heads that simply allows DHT to be much a much stronger attacker on the crowns of our heads...maybe its some kind of internal mechanism that cannot ever be altered...boys I think its much further away than 5 years.

They're using dermal papilla cells and they don't clone anything. They also don't pluck any hairs, they remove a small biopsy consisting of about 100-120 hairs and let the cells multiply in a culture.

When the company that is developing the product says it can be done very cheaply i don't think you need to be worried about cost.

ALso, I am sure they must have tested it on some humans too, hence trying for an FDA now?

Yes human testing began last year. Phase I consists of microdoses to test for side effects and one of the intercytex employess is taking part in the tests. He grew around 65 hairs in the area that a penny would cover... pretty good, not quite teen hair density but again the dosage is a fraction of the final amount planned for use.

Hey nervx, once again thanks for putting hope in me.

 

[chewbaca]

i think the transplanted cells will grow hair will be thin at first then after cycles may thicken?

 

[nervx]

i think the transplanted cells will grow hair will be thin at first then after cycles may thicken?

They haven't mentioned that but if i were to guess i would probably agree.

 

[Felk]

Is this interview from 2002 now obsolete?

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/hair_clonin ... shenik.cfm

This was the bit which worried me...

"HAIRLOSSHELP: The last question I have is what do you envision the cost being for people to get this procedure done?

DR WASHENIK: That’s a question like the time issue, its completely unknown. Yet I would venture to say somewhere around the cost of a traditional transplant. It all depends on how much it will cost from a laboratory standpoint. I would hope that it will be in the same ballpark but right now I just don’t now. If I had to guess I would say somewhere between $7,000-$15,000."

 

[nervx]

Is this interview from 2002 now obsolete?

I would say yes. A lot has changed over the years.

 

[Private Ryan]

U from singapore? as u know i know , in our country sure it will come asap since singapore is the medical hub in South east asia but it is going to be damn ex.

yeah... i am from singapore too...

hope so it will come in about 5years time... i losing the fight against hairloss and going to just buzz it down... you know locally, a buzzed head is not that accepted as people always link it with NS... haha...

going to save up for it... heard that price will be way less than hair transplant... hope it true...

good luck to us!!! haha...

 

[jumpedthegun]

nervx,

where did you hear about the employee who grew 65 hairs on a penny-sized spot on his head? is that on their website or something?

from what i understood, the process was theoretically possible, and had been proven in a lab when a few scraggly hairs grew on the back of a mouse, but that they were FAR from mastering the process (density, direction of growth, etc) on a human. though, i must admit, i have not kept abreast of the issue because i don't want to rely on false hope.

if the process comes out in the next five years, i will be so freaking ecstatic. if it does, i think we should start a fund on this site where everybody donates money, and when we reach enough to cover the cost of a procedure, we give it away to the most deserving person.

 

[hoit]

where did you hear about the employee who grew 65 hairs on a penny-sized spot on his head? is that on their website or something?

it's from this article here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 75,00.html

I dunno man, I'm wary of anything claiming to be the silver bullet for hairloss, but this still sounds fairly promising.

 

[EasyEd]

I emailed intercytex.com and here's what I got back from them:

Thank you for your query.

Intercytex are hoping to hold their phase II clinical trial in males in the UK and North America in the second half of 2006 but at present the trial design is under development and there are no timelines or precise clinic locations. When further information is available it will be posted on the Intercytex web site. Please feel free to consult http://www.intercytex.com for potential updates.

Thank you again for your query.

 

[jumpedthegun]

"hoping"

not very promising. i would rather them use the word "planning" or "expecting" or "will be"

 

[Private Ryan]

http://www.aderansresearch.com/pdfs/07P ... -05WSJ.pdf

"Bosley Chief Executive John Ohanesian thinks his company could get a cloning process to market as soon as 2008."

"Initial treatments would likely cost between $8,000 and $12,000 and be offered in addition to a hair transplant"

more news:
http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_ournews.html

 

[Private Ryan]

if 2008 is THE YEAR... i will be happy to drop all my treatment and buzzed my hair down until it out... then i wait a couple of years more for the price to stable and some improvement to the process then i jump to it...

if that happen... finally... it over...

having full head of hair for all of us will be possible... until then... we just got to pray and hope hard...

 

[JustBreathe]

This dangling carrot of HM is a funny one....

At the same time it induces both happiness and frustration. I guess that is just the nature of hope.

We have to avoid thinking things along the line of "my life will start once i get HM and have a full head of hair"

I really want this technology to work and be viable for EVERYONE.
This damn hairloss business is causing alot of stress for my balding breathren, and i want to see it ended for all of us.

I'm turning 25 this year, and i don't think HM will be around till im 35.
Prove me wrong ICX/ARI (please!)

 

[nervx]

http://www.aderansresearch.com/pdfs/07PR_05-04-05WSJ.pdf

"Bosley Chief Executive John Ohanesian thinks his company could get a cloning process to market as soon as 2008."

"Initial treatments would likely cost between $8,000 and $12,000 and be offered in addition to a hair transplant"

more news:
http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_ournews.html

The information is a little outdated but it's interesting to see that they were aiming for 2008 early last year and now think they might be able to make 2007. Things must be going good at anderans.

 

[markelbentley]

awesome! another mood boosting post by nervx...

 

[Private Ryan]

nervx:
2007!?!?

wow!!! if this is true, i am willing to sell the soul of ronaldkia to you at a discounted price!!!

 

[JustBreathe]

Private Ryan: Bwhahahahaha

 

[JustBreathe]

Nervx: Where did Anderans say they are aiming for 2007 ?

 

[jumpedthegun]

2007 seems very unlikely, but who knows. i think the 2010 marker is more realistic. Though, I think I'd still be happy even if it took until 2015. I would be 37 by then, but I think I could deal with being bald for 10 years or so if I knew I would have a lion's mane at 37!

my fear is not that it doesn't come out in the next few years, but that it comes out and it is not very effective, like every other treatment so far. the fact that the one guy had 65 new hairs sprout up on a penny-sized area is pretty awesome, but for all we know it could just be peach fuzz.

though, since i'm a diffuser, i could use some peach fuzz as ground cover