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[Felk]

Thanks for the info once again nervx. Are you a member of a HM board as well - is that where you find out your info?

Anyway - fingers crossed for England!

No offence to japan, but i'm sure i'd find it easier doing it there

Btw your avatar is great :lol:

 

[EasyEd]

Nervx,

I'm pretty inexperience with HM and don't really know how the entire process works. I'm currently a NW2 with slight diffuse thinning in the crown area, but for the most part, I've got a fair amount of hair on my head. Would I be eligible for HM? Could I have anything done at all or is this just for guys in far worse shape than me replacing hairs they've permanently lost?

 

[TAINTED-MEAT]

EasyEd,

With HM, they are injecting cells into your head that grow hair. You could participate in HM, you just might have to get some touch up treatments, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

 

[nervx]

EasyEd,

With HM, they are injecting cells into your head that grow hair. You could participate in HM, you just might have to get some touch up treatments, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

That's right and some of your cells will be kept on file for these touch up treatments. That way they wont have to do another biopsy and you pay a reduced cost.

 

[powersam]

i wonder what the deal will be with minoxidil users, i guess you'll have to stop using it and take the shed, then wait it out till your hair rebounds to its natural point so they know where to work from.

 

[Apoc]

Not if HM also strengthens the existing hairs. I'd just say get it done then go for another one if the density reduces when your previous hair falls out. I'm not going to go cold turkey for a year just to get HM later. I want it right now.

 

[Damn Wind]

Anyone know a woman in California that is willing to bare my child and then give it to me so I can sell it for the money to pay for this treatment?

 

[Felk]

Anyone know a woman in California that is willing to bare my child and then give it to me so I can sell it for the money to pay for this treatment?

... and don't forget to keep her umbilical chord... :wink:

 

[amsterdam]

Ok guys, there seems to be some confusion here about the inner-workings of HM.

First off, the umbilical cord procedure is something completely different than traditional HM. It is quite new, and in my opinion less promising than the 'follicle neogenesis' version of HM.

Follicle neogenesis is the process of harvesting healthy, DHT resistant follicles from the back of the head, multiplying them, and re-injecting dermal papilla cells back into the top of the head. This is supposed to induce new follicle formation, as well as arrouse the existing, miniaturized balding follicles around the micro-injection site.

The pictures provided in the patent applied for by the kind gentleman from korea are of very poor quality, and in my opinion show little, if any regrowth. Furthermore, he is asking an astronomical sum for the procedure, while only giving the women who donated their cords 5 years of 'coverage' in return. This is quite suspect if you ask me.

That method does have the potential to develop more effectively, but at the moment doesn't seem nearly as promising as follicle neogenesis.

http://www.aderans.com
http://www.intercytex.com

these are the two main players. ICX is attempting to get phase II trials underway this month, but they have historically been tardy when it comes to being on-time.

It is suspected that after phase II ICX will commercialize the procedure in the UK. I would not be surprised if a similar thing happens in Japan with Aderans, the two seem very close at the moment.

hope this helps clear some things up.

 

[Felk]

Yeah i know the umbilical chord blood procedure is different, I was just alluding to it in this one, as people in that thread were joking "my wife's having a baby soon... let's start the bidding on the chord!"

 

[powersam]

why are you spelling it chord? do you intend to play music with it?

 

[DaSand]

EasyEd,

With HM, they are injecting cells into your head that grow hair. You could participate in HM, you just might have to get some touch up treatments, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

That's right and some of your cells will be kept on file for these touch up treatments. That way they wont have to do another biopsy and you pay a reduced cost.

I wonder how much the reduced cost would be. Would you have an idea nervx?

 

[Apoc]

Nobody in the world can tell you the cost of HM. Let's wait until they can prove that the thing works. I'm sure money won't be a problem in the end if you will really want to get it done. You'll manage somehow.

 

[markelbentley]

powersam, the guy in your avatar looks just like me! thought id mention it.

 

[nervx]

I wonder how much the reduced cost would be. Would you have an idea nervx?

They just said it would be a reduced cost. No estimate on touch up treatments was given.

 

[Felk]

...any news on whether they've started those trials yet?

 

[vernon]

Lets hope hair cloning comes in 5 years max and lets hope by then they will be able to multiply as many hairs as we need. Also for those of us that still have hair but we are fighting the loss with meds it would be nice if we could have those cells injected over our existing DHT sensitive hairs to replace them with non DHT sensitive hairs. This way we can drop the meds and pain in the *** topicals like Minoxidil,ect.

Do you guys think that would be possible?

Bosely consultants are now giving a 2007-2008 release time frame for HM. The plan is straight to market after trials end. Since HM isn't a drug it can bypass a lot of the regulatory/licensing processes and speed things up.

I think the 5 year thing is finally dead. When HM first started it was 5 years away and then 5 years after that it was another 5 years and so on. But now we have companies like bosely backing these research groups and their products are making it through fda trials and what not. No ones ever gotten this far before and i doubt they would spend the money on fda trials if the product didn't hold any promise.

There's still the chance that hm will fail but things are at least looking very positive for once. Even some of the die hard negative guys are starting to show signs of hope again.

Can't wait for the years 2007 and 2008...

But I really don't want a transplant, I'd like the HM procedure to get my hairline and other thinning parts back. Can that be possible? Oh damn, I'm excited. I've said it before I want to grow my hair like Edward Carnby from Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare!

Yeah, can I sign up too?

2007 or 2008 is going to be a big year!

I'll join you nervx waiting outside for it to come out.

chewbaca:
hopefully it will be approve within 5years and it will come to our country soon when it hit the market...hope the price will not be out of reach by common people...

maybe we can go for it together... haha...

http://www.aderansresearch.com/pdfs/07P ... -05WSJ.pdf

"Bosley Chief Executive John Ohanesian thinks his company could get a cloning process to market as soon as 2008."

"Initial treatments would likely cost between $8,000 and $12,000 and be offered in addition to a hair transplant"

more news:
http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_ournews.html

They've been saying in their anual reports for the last couple of years that they're aiming to commercialize HM in 2007. I think they could make it if they pushed really hard but 2008 is more likely.

2008 , thats great news :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Good old 2006, same exact posts as today. Meanwhile, not a single hair was cloned and implanted on human scalp.

 

[hairblues]

...any news on whether they've started those trials yet?

This is saddest and last post in thread

2006

 

[hairblues]

no, stop when HM comes out maybe 2008

Wtf is HM?

Funny they speculate on price if procedures

Damn

 

[hellouser]

Wtf is HM?

Funny they speculate on price if procedures

Damn

Hair Multiplication?