CCS's body recompositioning journal

[hair today gone tomorrow]

I understand what your saying though man ..Free weights are better then smith because it isnt in a fix rom . i get that being in a fixed position isnt good for you and can cause injurys . the reason i use smith for close grip is because when i use freeweights my shoulder clicks and it is quite annoying , I cant stand hearing my shoulders click it makes me queuzy..You are correct though . If possible everybody should use freeweights intstead of any machine..

most machines are not really an injury risk, but the smith machine is...especially for people that use it for squats...

 

[Harie]

smith is quite possibly the WORST machine in the gym....it should be used for NOTHING.

Hey now, it's good for keeping your feet elevated so you can do incline pushups off the floor. lol Sometimes I use the sides of it to hold on to while I stretch my pecs too.

I hate the Smith machine! Takes up valuable space that could have something useful like a GHR platform, or a reverse hyper platform. I have yet to see a gym that has either of those pieces of equipment in them.

 

[Harie]

I feel like a born again here.....My point is what's the point of lifting weights? I am 28, still lifting and have lifted since I was 18, never getting hurt, so I am not speaking from a sour grapes mentality. I'm a regular guy, most here are too. So safety should be number 1. What is less safe is to use old fashioned free weights. No one wants to hear that $#iT cuz that's what everyone knows. When you go to your gym u see most every guy doing free weights b/c thats what he saw everyone else do from time immemorial. The machines are for safety first and still target the correct muscle groups. the scientists who designed know what the f*** is going on.

I won't preach on the push/pull thing, you are either with the program or your not.

The point of lifting weights is to increase not only the targeted muscles, but the stabilizer muscles as well. Your "safety machines" do not build stabilizer muscles at all, which is a definite no-no in any sport. Like I said above, you're only as strong as your weakest link.

News flash. Scientists did not develop the "safety machines". Some exercise company paid an engineer to develop them so said company could make lots of $$.

You want to go on a safety crusade in your gym. Tell all the people that lift with HORRIBLE form to get a clue and learn how to properly perform the exercise. That will prevent more injuries than all your "safety machines" combined.

And the push/pull thing. That means that lots of the great exercise programs out there is bad for you. Starting Strength, 5x5 (pretty much anything by Bill Starr & Mark Rippetoe), HST, Dual factor theory, Westside for Bodybuilders, Texas Method, TONS of Russian/Bulgarian Strength programs...All have push/pull on the same day. That's just a few of the programs I could think of at 12AM in the morning off the top of my head. I really think the countless professionals (and actual scientists in the case of many of the Russian/Bulgarian programs) that designed these programs know what they're doing.

 

[CCS]

no roid use today. too busy tutoring my lab partner for hours. hot. no braw one. great smile. had dinner with her too, at a nice restaurant, as a study break. we were sitting close and she was self conscious of her breath. I'll have gum tomorrow. We are almost done with our report. So little left our other members could finish it. But we wont' make them. We will meet tomorrow evening to we have plenty of time to finish.

 

[Harie]

no roid use today.

BTW - Epistane is not "roids". It's a PH.

 

[TAINTED-MEAT]

I like to use the row machine for my back.

 

[CCS]

no roid use today.

BTW - Epistane is not "roids". It's a PH.

I know a steroid is anything with those 4 rings. I think a prohormone is something that is converted to testosterone, whereas anabolic steroids are other steroids which are anabolic themself, even though they do not necessarily convert to testosterone. I think only two parts of the body make testosterone, and both are shut down on anabolic steroid cycles, whereas I think prohormones like androstinedione give the testes something to make testosterone from. Could be wrong on all this.

The suicidal aromatase inhibitor I will take later is also a steroid, but has no anabolic properties, and will cause me to produce more testosterone naturally.

 

[The Gardener]

CCS, do you really think its wise to take those supplements? I hope you don't get sick.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

smith is quite possibly the WORST machine in the gym....it should be used for NOTHING.

Hey now, it's good for keeping your feet elevated so you can do incline pushups off the floor. lol Sometimes I use the sides of it to hold on to while I stretch my pecs too.

I hate the Smith machine! Takes up valuable space that could have something useful like a GHR platform, or a reverse hyper platform. I have yet to see a gym that has either of those pieces of equipment in them.

yah its good to use as a towel rack too...haaa

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

I feel like a born again here.....My point is what's the point of lifting weights? I am 28, still lifting and have lifted since I was 18, never getting hurt, so I am not speaking from a sour grapes mentality. I'm a regular guy, most here are too. So safety should be number 1. What is less safe is to use old fashioned free weights. No one wants to hear that $#iT cuz that's what everyone knows. When you go to your gym u see most every guy doing free weights b/c thats what he saw everyone else do from time immemorial. The machines are for safety first and still target the correct muscle groups. the scientists who designed know what the f*** is going on.

I won't preach on the push/pull thing, you are either with the program or your not.

The point of lifting weights is to increase not only the targeted muscles, but the stabilizer muscles as well. Your "safety machines" do not build stabilizer muscles at all, which is a definite no-no in any sport. Like I said above, you're only as strong as your weakest link.

News flash. Scientists did not develop the "safety machines". Some exercise company paid an engineer to develop them so said company could make lots of $$.

You want to go on a safety crusade in your gym. Tell all the people that lift with HORRIBLE form to get a clue and learn how to properly perform the exercise. That will prevent more injuries than all your "safety machines" combined.

And the push/pull thing. That means that lots of the great exercise programs out there is bad for you. Starting Strength, 5x5 (pretty much anything by Bill Starr & Mark Rippetoe), HST, Dual factor theory, Westside for Bodybuilders, Texas Method, TONS of Russian/Bulgarian Strength programs...All have push/pull on the same day. That's just a few of the programs I could think of at 12AM in the morning off the top of my head. I really think the countless professionals (and actual scientists in the case of many of the Russian/Bulgarian programs) that designed these programs know what they're doing.

besides all thougth...its just simply dangerous...it LOCKS you into a range of motion...when you watch someone squat properly the bar doesnt travel perfectly up and down...its bad for your back AND knees.

Rambo...do yourself a favor and learn how to do exercises with a barbell.

Actually now that i think about it...its not all that bad if you use it for CALF raises :lol:

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

Man have you been listening to what ive been telling you? I use free weights for everything except close grip bench press and lat pulldowns...

why arnt you doing pull ups and chin ups and my favorite hammer grip pull ups instead? if you do these there is no need for lat pull downs.

 

[CCS]

Man have you been listening to what ive been telling you? I use free weights for everything except close grip bench press and lat pulldowns...

why arnt you doing pull ups and chin ups and my favorite hammer grip pull ups instead? if you do these there is no need for lat pull downs.

I only do lat pull downs if I want to do a lot of reps, since I can only do a max of 16 chin ups, or almost 3 sets of 10.

Thanks for the info guys, but could you start a separate thread on this? This is my journal thread.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

Man have you been listening to what ive been telling you? I use free weights for everything except close grip bench press and lat pulldowns...

why arnt you doing pull ups and chin ups and my favorite hammer grip pull ups instead? if you do these there is no need for lat pull downs.

I only do lat pull downs if I want to do a lot of reps, since I can only do a max of 16 chin ups, or almost 3 sets of 10.

Thanks for the info guys, but could you start a separate thread on this? This is my journal thread.

you dont need to go any higher than 16 reps...thats ridiculous...if you can do more than 10 pull ups per set Its time to add weight...so get a belt and start off with 10lbs attached to you and go form there....

youll have wings in no time

 

[CCS]

I already have wings. They are my proudest attribute. I love flexing from front view for that reason. It just sucks that my back is so cured, or I'd look really good with my shirt off.

 

[Harie]

It just sucks that my back is so cured, or I'd look really good with my shirt off.

Have you ever gone to a chiropractor? If you have back problems, they will probably be able to help. I know my chiro specializes in fixing poor posture, so I'd think another chiro could help you out.

 

[Harie]

Harie when you go to a chiro for bad posture do they fix it? or do you have to keep seeing them to mantain your results?

If you do the exercises & rehab that the chiro recommends, you can keep the results without going to them more than once or twice/month.

Weight hanging for the neck is a pretty common one that he uses. My posture wasn't too bad, so that's all he had me do. Eventually, it's just maintaining the results, so the hanging frequency goes down to only once/week or so.

 

[CCS]

chiropracters can only help if the curve is caused by muscle tightness/relaxation. I think my vertabrea are wedge shaped. I'll need some surgery to fix that.

 

[Harie]

cant you just do the hanging weights at home

Yup, that's actually what my chiro recommends. Once he showed me how to do it, the rest, I did at home.

 

[Harie]

I think my vertabrea are wedge shaped. I'll need some surgery to fix that.

How do you know that? It can't hurt to go see a chiro to see if they can help. Much, much cheaper than surgery

 

[CCS]

I think my vertabrea are wedge shaped. I'll need some surgery to fix that.

How do you know that? It can't hurt to go see a chiro to see if they can help. Much, much cheaper than surgery

I'd rather get a side view X-ray to see what I'm up against. I saw an orthopedic surgeon, almost got the X-ray, then did not. Should have. I hope I don't have to pay to see him again, and can just go on the old permission. Any chiro who does not consider X-rays for some clients is a fake.