Charles Darwin's no-shampoo success story

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Did you know that men cannot handle terminal illness diagnoses as well as women?

Women handle the diagnoses much better and come to terms with it. They accept it as their fate.

Men on the other hand are the ones trying experimental therapies and drugs to do anything to stop their fate.

I think this has to do with the fundamental difference between men and women. Carrying babies and having a menstrual cycle is a women's biological duty. Take her menstrual cycle for instance. She is going to have it occur periodically no matter what. It doesn't stop and wait for her exams to be over, or her big presentation, or after her vactation. Its going to happen when it happens and she has to deal with it.
For men, there is nothing analygous to this.

Some men lose hair, and they become desperate. THey cannot accept it and think that something they are doing is causing this. ITS NOT. SHampoo is not making you go bald. Men have gone bald for thousands of years even before shampoo. Its genetics buddies. Genetics.
 
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Diamond Dave said:
Uh, Oh...you're really asking for it Armando.....

That's the same response I get from them when I say years of shampooing cause hairloss. Their immediate response is "why don't all the head hair fall out from shampoo?"

I love to see their default answer shot back at them.

Well...let's hear from the "genetics" crowd. Answer Armando please. :lol:

Here is the answer. But look how you act like a child and try to refute facts and throw them away because your theory is wrong.

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The areas of baldness in males is directly correlated with androgen receptor and 5AR enzyme density. You loose hair from the areas where androgens have the greastest potential action.

Whatever you say Doctor....

I'm just telling you the truth. The 5AR type II enzyme that is normally located on the dermal papillae is simply not there in the occipital follicles. Dimished regional potential androgen response means no hair loss in that area. Men with frontal baldness often have an increase in the density of androgen receptors and 5AR enzymes in the area of baldness. If you look hard enough, you'll see that the same holds true for all forms of male pattern baldness.

Diamond dave, now that you have our "genetics group" reason. Please explain your reason as to why the sides and back of the head do not lose hair as a result of shampooing.

Thank you
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Diamond Dave said:
[quote="Cutsinger is God":f7cef]Perhaps we are a little confused Gardener. Diamond Dave and I have been talking about head hair not body hair. Of course soap has the opposite effect on body hair.

I was gonna say that CIG but I knew that would go way over the heads of most people here.[/quote:f7cef]

Okay, so why is it that I only experienced a massive increase in body hair only during puberty? After that my body hair has remained stagnant or about the same.

My reason, the massive increase in testosterone.
CIG what is your reasoning?
 

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some people just want to blame anything other then themselves.

It's called "lets pass the buck"
 

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You refuse to accept that your body does things to work against you so you want to blame anything else around you.

Science has proven the real reasons for hairloss but we haven't been able to conquer it all because of the complexities of our hormones and biological functions.

I mean it's been pointed out the exact reasons behind it and all you say is "whatever".

Retarded stubbornness and unwillingness to accept the truth. Plus you get sucked in to unreferenced and unproven sites that speculate theories rather then proven fact and accept those as the truth. I could post a website stating anything i want and find studies that "kind of" say the right things that semi-prove or make my theory sound good. It doesn't make it true.
 

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Cutsinger, Diamond Dave, read and learn...

a. Men went bald in the old days and I said this many times. There were other causes of baldness and the main thing was malnutrition. Back then people had to search for their own food. Bad diets, no food, starvation. You name it people suffered hairloss. I believe the average age of death was in the 30's and younger for cavemen. Speaking of cavemen, I am sure insects and mites also contributed to baldness before shampoo was invented. It was a entirely different time back then.

Male pattern baldness is NOT the same thing as other types of hair loss. Balding men do not 'lose' hair in the true sense of the word, but instead it gradually becomes fine and vellus. The transition of at least some terminal hairs into vellus hairs is a universal physiological secondary sexual characteristic. Clin Endocrinol 1994;40:439­57.

b. all men who use shampoo eventually do go bald. The problem with this is people die at all different ages. Some men probaby would of went bald from shampooing, they just didn't live long enough to experienc the baldness. Car accidents, cancer, etc.

The prerequisites for premature androgenetic alopecia are a genetic predisposition and sufficient levels of androgens. Eunuchs and men with 5AR deficiency do not go bald. Every white man possesses the autosomal inherited predisposition, and 96% lose hair to some degree, but because of the variabity of gene expression far fewer have appreciable premature hair loss. Am J Anat 1942;71:451­80. J Clin Endocrinol Metab 1960;20:1309­18. Dawber RPR, ed. Diseases of the hair and scalp. Oxford: Blackwell Science, 1997. Ann N Y Acad Sci 1951;53:708­28

c. regarding women, see b.

Simply false.

d. All men apply shampoo pretty much the same way. They apply it to the front or the top of the heads and according to Cutsinger, this is "ground zero" for the hairloss to occur. Years and years of acid burns will eventually cause a bald spot and once it starts, it spreads, you will get the horseshoe pattern and that's the area where the shampoo is concentrated the most and for the longest periods of time. The back and the sides get very little because of gravity. The horseshoe top is where the shampoo sits flat until water washes it away. You see now.

As Doctor has said, chemicals in rinse-off shampoo products do not have sufficient time to absorb into the skin and, even if they did, there is ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE that they damage hair follicles - quite the contrary, according to some of the information that Bryan has posted e.g. "Induction of hair growth by skin irritants and its relation to skin protein kinase C isoforms." Br J Dermatol 1999 Apr;140(4):616-23.

The reason why the back and sides of the head are not affected by male pattern baldness is because these regions contain far lower levels of androgen receptors. J Endocrinol. 1998 Jan;156(1):59-65.

e. I can't explain the use of androgen on scalp hair

Because you ignore the science.

just like you can't explain why Lawrence, Diamond Dave, Widowspeak, and FirestormUK are regrowing huge amounts of hair by cutting out the suds.

None of you are regrowing hair. Your hair may appear thicker because of the accumulated grease and grime, and you may have naturally reached your eventual Norwood scale rating, but you certainly won't regrow any hair. There is no biological possibility of this happening.

f. There is no proven effectivness except for some peach fuzz and great marketing by the chemical companies to young 20 somethings who don't know any better and are only worried about getting laid so they all get on drugs in order to have sex or to find a mate before they bald. Follow the money trail and you will find a pile a crap at the end of your chemical rainbow.

Wrong. We have evidence from randomised placebo-controlled trials that finasteride and dustasteride regrow hair and prevent further hair loss. This evidence has been subjected to peer review and published in reputable scientific journals.

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CutsingerisGod & Diamond Dave have you come to gourmetstylewellness.com to post now because they all laugh at you on Getitback?

I looked over there & I see that there is an overwhelming majority who tried the no shampoo method and say it doesn't work.

There are no photos showing regrowth at all there.
 
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badasshairday said:
Diamond Dave said:
[quote="Cutsinger is God":7d499]Perhaps we are a little confused Gardener. Diamond Dave and I have been talking about head hair not body hair. Of course soap has the opposite effect on body hair.

I was gonna say that CIG but I knew that would go way over the heads of most people here.

Okay, so why is it that I only experienced a massive increase in body hair only during puberty? After that my body hair has remained stagnant or about the same.

My reason, the massive increase in testosterone.
CIG what is your reasoning?[/quote:7d499]

Still no answer.
This is getting ridiculous. They are basically denying that sex hormones do nothing to the body and soap is the reason why I grew hair on my chest and armpits as I went through puberty.
 

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global said:
CutsingerisGod & Diamond Dave have you come to gourmetstylewellness.com to post now because they all laugh at you on Getitback?

I looked over there & I see that there is an overwhelming majority who tried the no shampoo method and say it doesn't work.

There are no photos showing regrowth at all there.

Once again with all these lies. Look closer Global Balding. Do you need glasses. They are in the new forum. Hairguy's are right in the beginning as are Widowspeak's. FirestormUK's are in the photos section I believe.
 

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Cutsinger is God said:
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CutsingerisGod & Diamond Dave have you come to gourmetstylewellness.com to post now because they all laugh at you on Getitback?

I looked over there & I see that there is an overwhelming majority who tried the no shampoo method and say it doesn't work.

There are no photos showing regrowth at all there.

Once again with all these lies. Look closer Global Balding. Do you need glasses. They are in the new forum. Hairguy's are right in the beginning as are Widowspeak's. FirestormUK's are in the photos section I believe.

And yet you admitted before that those photos didn't show any regrowth. why are you lying about this CIG? What are you trying to hide?
 

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I admitted no such thing. If I did I was joking to fool Diamond Dave as to who I was. This happened when I first signed up. Little did I know 2 weeks later that I would be involved in a "hairy" war over shampoo.
 

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Cutsinger is God said:
I admitted no such thing. If I did I was joking to fool Diamond Dave as to who I was. This happened when I first signed up. Little did I know 2 weeks later that I would be involved in a "hairy" war over shampoo.

So which one is it CIG?

You didn't admit it or you did but it was a joke?

You can't even make up your mind when you try to cover your tracks by adding further lies.

We can all go back and read for ourselves where you admitted (several times in different threads) that you had ZERO growth.
 
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badasshairday said:
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[quote="Cutsinger is God":3ca6f]Perhaps we are a little confused Gardener. Diamond Dave and I have been talking about head hair not body hair. Of course soap has the opposite effect on body hair.

I was gonna say that CIG but I knew that would go way over the heads of most people here.

Okay, so why is it that I only experienced a massive increase in body hair only during puberty? After that my body hair has remained stagnant or about the same.

My reason, the massive increase in testosterone.
CIG what is your reasoning?

Still no answer.
This is getting ridiculous. They are basically denying that sex hormones do nothing to the body and soap is the reason why I grew hair on my chest and armpits as I went through puberty.[/quote:3ca6f]
 

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badasshairday said:
badasshairday said:
badasshairday said:
Diamond Dave said:
[quote="Cutsinger is God":45a40]Perhaps we are a little confused Gardener. Diamond Dave and I have been talking about head hair not body hair. Of course soap has the opposite effect on body hair.

I was gonna say that CIG but I knew that would go way over the heads of most people here.

Okay, so why is it that I only experienced a massive increase in body hair only during puberty? After that my body hair has remained stagnant or about the same.

My reason, the massive increase in testosterone.
CIG what is your reasoning?

Still no answer.
This is getting ridiculous. They are basically denying that sex hormones do nothing to the body and soap is the reason why I grew hair on my chest and armpits as I went through puberty.
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Ok badasshairday,

We are talking about The Cause of Baldness NOT the growing body hair during puberty. The cause of baldness according to Cutsinger has always been soap and shampoo. Cut the Suds is his method and you will increase those lost buds.

Once boys age to 9 to 13, they all grow more body hair. What happens then is the boys and girls start to pay attention to their appearance and this is really where shampoo and soap take on an added dimension. Teens will shower more, use more hair gels, more soap, more hair spray etc. Well as this increases so does the damage SLS causes. It's a very very slow yet progressive process depending on how thick one's hair is. The thicker the hair(Joe Namath of the NY JETs) the longer it takes to go bald. The thinner the hair (example: Matt Hasselbeck qb of the Seattle Seahawks) the quicker shampoo does it's nasty work on follicles.

This is why you see alot of late teens and early 20 somethings with naturally born thinner hair start to lose their hair earlier than those with naturally born thicker shaft hairs. Had Matt Hasselbeck never used any shampoo or soap he would no doubt have a thick head of hair.

I see a future where based on the thickness of one's hair where teachers at schools will be able to determine which students could use shampoo and which ones absolutely shouldn't. Each student's follicle's would be analyzed to see if it would be more susceptible to quicker damage of SLS based on the Cutsinger model which is yet to be developed. Again, this is just what my vision of the future could possibly be. If this does happen, this will all go back to the tireless and thankless work of Lawrence Cutsinger and his followers like me and Diamond Dave. Someday and hopefully soon I hope he can show everyone in July what cutting out the suds can really do after 11 years. I also look forward to his potential appearance on Oprah. Once that happens trust me the entire world will know. That's how big Oprah is.

So there you have it baddasshairday. I don't ever want to hear you crying an moaning for anymore explainations. You cried and whined now eat it!! I answered your damn question. No Mas!!
 

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my regimen has never changed since i was a kid.

I never used gel or hairspray. I never had to with the hairstyle i had plus i never liked the feel of it.

My hair was always SUPER thick and it made older women jealous.

I had to shower daily to everyother day because of my hair. it would get so greasy and oily because of how thick it was.
 

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SkylineGTR said:
my regimen has never changed since i was a kid.

I never used gel or hairspray. I never had to with the hairstyle i had plus i never liked the feel of it.

My hair was always SUPER thick and it made older women jealous.

I honestly don't care about you. This was for badasshairday to shut his trap up.
 
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God, I hope CIG is not the typical quality of mailman that works for the USPS. He also managed to post all day today-hmm.
 

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of course you don't care about me because i prove the theory wrong...

its so funny. Ignore everything that proves you wrong.
 
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