DHT test results: Absolutely Shocked, Gutted and Pissed off!

[RoyD]

And then what? What if that turns out to be normal again? What do I go on a witch hunt to catch the bastard selling fake meds or cut open my ballsack to see what's wrong in there?
Like seriously I have to do a test for prostate cancer to prove something to you people because of the fact that my drugs could be ineffective is far less convincing than my body having some kind of anti anti-DHT powers.

 

[xRedStaRx]

And then what? What if that turns out to be normal again? What do I go on a witch hunt to catch the bastard selling fake meds or cut open my ballsack to see what's wrong in there?
Like seriously I have to do a test for prostate cancer to prove something to you people because of the fact that my drugs could be ineffective is far less convincing than my body having some kind of anti anti-DHT powers.

PSA is more reliable than DHT to check if the medicine is real. There's your answer, you either go with it, or keep complaining.

 

[isishearmyplea]

And then what? What if that turns out to be normal again? What do I go on a witch hunt to catch the bastard selling fake meds or cut open my ballsack to see what's wrong in there?
Like seriously I have to do a test for prostate cancer to prove something to you people because of the fact that my drugs could be ineffective is far less convincing than my body having some kind of anti anti-DHT powers.

try finpecia by cipla, my libido did take a hit whn i first used it.

 

[hmm]

^^^Cipla is good, I have had good luck with Fincar from them.

I'm contemplating trying out Duprost by Cipla. It's a little more expensive than Dutas but only by very little. I just don't want to waste another year seeing if it works or not. Maybe Dutasteride is harder to make than finasteride. I hate feeling like a guinea pig.

 

[existence]

I am sending in my Dutas for lab analysis. Batch no. DE40081. Will post results here.

You have any reference to say PSA is a better marker than DHT? The drug lowers both. How much PSA suppression does Dutasteride 0.5mg ED give? I am sure
it's well documented.

Without any baseline labs to start with, its difficult.
If thread starter wants, if you can get your hands on GSK Avodart, take it and then run your labs you will know much better.

 

[hmm]

^^Awesome!!! Post the actual results so there is no doubt. if you have trouble hosting the image/document I can help with that.

 

[Aesthetic]

nice op let us know whats up

 

[RoyD]

Finally some constructive comments other than recommending me to do more tests. Thanks for the brand names and I do feel Cipla is more reliable.

There's no point doing more tests. I can't sue Dr. Reddy's, my pharmacy or anyone even if the meds are fake or incompetent because I'm not supposed to be taking it for hair loss anyways. Besides I don't even have any receipts and cases like this take millenia to win in court. Even if there's a problem in my body rather than the meds then I've just hit a brickwall dead end. No meds are ever going to work on me and I just have to go bald.

Some people here are trying to act like they're representatives of Dr. Reddy's or my pharmacy and as if I'm just here to defame the company.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Finally some constructive comments other than recommending me to do more tests. Thanks for the brand names and I do feel Cipla is more reliable.

There's no point doing more tests. I can't sue Dr. Reddy's, my pharmacy or anyone even if the meds are fake or incompetent because I'm not supposed to be taking it for hair loss anyways. Besides I don't even have any receipts and cases like this take millenia to win in court. Even if there's a problem in my body rather than the meds then I've just hit a brickwall dead end. No meds are ever going to work on me and I just have to go bald.

Some people here are trying to act like they're representatives of Dr. Reddy's or my pharmacy and as if I'm just here to defame the company.

Well it's not so much that but rather you haven't gotten to the root of the problem so you'll never know what has happened. Is it your body? Fake drug? Poor blood test?

They normally do repeat blood tests in clinical settings.

If it's your body as you said earlier, then how will Finasteride help you? Either way you will have to do blood work to check that as well. In fact you were on Fincar before (you wrote earlier on this thread) with also no hair benefits or sides. Honestly, everyone's biochemistry is a little different, in your position a repeat DHT or PSA test would be invaluable for yourself. It has no benefit for anyone here.

If I was you, I would be seeing the Doctor again and doing more tests for sure, as most people on here would. You say you shouldn't be taking dutasteride anyway for hair loss, well patient safety is the Drs and Pharmacists job, you buying it doesn't send you to jail. Also I don't think anyone said do a 30 year legal battle or anything, just get to the root of the issue for your welfare.

Others have bought Dr Reddy's dutasteride with blood work done to show it lowered their DHT.

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For whatever it is worth, I had my DHT tested on Dutas over a year ago and it was something like 2.5 ng/dl. Maybe you should send your pills to an analysis lab.

WTF. I need to start taking dutasteride at least once a week.

 

[YeaSoWhatBitch]

Hey, can you tell me where you sent it to? I'm trying to get something similar done to my finasteride but I'm not sure where to even turn to.

 

[RoyD]

So what conclusion can I come to according to the result of the PSA test? Like what if it's normal and what if it's abnormal. I'm not doing the test unless I can find a definite answer as to whether it's my body or it's my meds.

Btw I went searching to different pharmacies in my area yesterday for finasteride. Guess what ... They all only stock Dr. Reddy's Finasteride! It's like a ****ing monopoly or something. Come to realize even the minoxidil I use (10%) is from Dr. Reddy's. Basically they have the whole hair loss treatment medication in their grip, at least in my area. I'm quite sure now that these drugs are not properly regulated coz the FDA has never approved 10% minoxidil.

 

[xRedStaRx]

If you're PSA is lower by about 50% from baseline, or just a final test that shows a serum PSA outside a normal range, or very close to the bottom one.

The point being, DHT test results are far from accurate, and usually need much more advanced testing mechanisms. PSA is easier to test, and points to the drug working.

 

[RoyD]

So if my PSA is out of normal range or close to their outer limits, the drug is working but my body isn't responding? And if it's normal then the drugs are not working, right?

 

[xRedStaRx]

So if my PSA is out of normal range or close to their outer limits, the drug is working but my body isn't responding? And if it's normal then the drugs are not working, right?

Exactly.

 

[RoyD]

Ok so I gave my blood in for testing PSA and pre PSA levels. Luckily it was cheaper than the DHT and T tests. Anyways the results should come in by tomorrow evening and should blow the lid off this mystery.

Btw I took one of the Dutas pills which I had yesterday just to ensure I get a proper result. I had stopped taking it since I had got my DHT test results but either ways it shouldn't make a difference because the half life of Dutasteride is around 28 days and if the meds do work they'll still be working in my body.

 

[Wolf Pack]

Well done. This should be very useful for you.

 

[RoyD]

Ok the results are in and I'm finding it kind of difficult to interpret it, mainly because this test is done on men above the age of 40 or who are suspect of having prostate cancer.

Sr. PSA: 0.4 ng/ml
Biological Ref Interval: Upto 4

Sr. Free PSA 0.1 ng/ml

Percentage of Free PSA / Total PSA: 25%
20-25% suggests a 16% probability of prostatic carcinoma (whatever the **** that is)

So what do you make of this? I don't think this is anything abnormal considering the fact that median PSA levels in 40 year old men is 0.7 ng/ml and it barely ever goes over 2 unless you have some problem or are really old or some ****.

 

[Wolf Pack]

That's pretty low. Because there was no baseline it's difficult to be certain but clearly that result looks like someone on finasteride or dutasteride to me. I didn't think your meds were fake tbh all this time. So maybe the dht result was wrong or it was right somehow and you're not responding to the drug. Your hair has not maintained which suggests overall you are not responding well IMHO.

 

[RoyD]

Well it does seem low but doesn't really feel abnormal to me especially for a powerful drug like dutasteride. The only baseline is for 40+ year old men. It is 0.7 for 40 year olds and increases by 0.1 for every 10 years added.

Hopefully RedStar can shed some light on this.

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Btw I scored some Finpecia (Cipla) from a local pharmacy. Let's see how this goes. I guess in 3 months time I'll b pretty close to the truth which I fear is gona hurt.

 

[xRedStaRx]

Ok the results are in and I'm finding it kind of difficult to interpret it, mainly because this test is done on men above the age of 40 or who are suspect of having prostate cancer.

Sr. PSA: 0.4 ng/ml
Biological Ref Interval: Upto 4

Sr. Free PSA 0.1 ng/ml

Percentage of Free PSA / Total PSA: 25%
20-25% suggests a 16% probability of prostatic carcinoma (whatever the **** that is)

So what do you make of this? I don't think this is anything abnormal considering the fact that median PSA levels in 40 year old men is 0.7 ng/ml and it barely ever goes over 2 unless you have some problem or are really old or some ****.

How old are you?