do women care about looks like us men do?

[Chris87]

Also..female body builders prove that women are capable of building large amounts of muscle if they pump themselves full of MALE hormones. Thats how those women get to be so strong.

What, all of them?



Don't think so.

Even if none of them used steroids, its still a useless point...cave women didn't have weights to lift and i'm pretty sure none of them were body builders...

Also I'm pretty sure 99% of females are not body builders...so I don't know that using body builders is a good way to make a point about the majority of women

My point was primitive females were much weaker than males..so protection and the ability for a man to provide was a big factor. Even today... your average guy is usually stronger than an athletic girl. Also, I'm not saying that today protection is the main factor in a woman's desire for a man..but...our brains are still wired very much the same way..so some of that mentality is still left

 

[s.a.f]

So who wins out with a big bald guy vs a small weedy NW1?

 

[Chris87]

So who wins out with a big bald guy vs a small weedy NW1?

You're taking one point I made in a very complex conversation and acting as though it was the only thing I said. Of course there are a ton of variables that determine the answer to that question

My point was that women like guys with confidence/power/money/a nice physique....in part for the same reasons that primitive women preferred to be with the strongest caveman with the nicest cave. Obviously our current society alters these things a bit, but I believe the principles are still in us. If more guys would accept this and improve themselves maybe there wouldnt be so many guys on the internet sitting around like "I'm a really nice guy and girls don't want me!!! WAAAAAAAA!!!" Yeah man..you're out of shape, balding, and you dont have money to take a chick out on a date..." YEAH BUT IM REALLY REALLY NICE!!!"

People are animals...like other animals we want to associate with and mate with people who have the most positive characteristics... so being able to add a check mark next to the Wealthy, Good Looking, In Shape, Nice Personality, Confident categories is going to improve your chances...the more of those you can improve on, the better you'll do with women. Having hair is definitely going to improve several of these things. Its going to make you more physically attractive, more confident, improve your personality (for people who might suffer depression due to their hair), and possibly even help you to make more money as it is proven that attractive people make more money). So the question was does having hair improve your chances with women and do they care about it? The answer is yes...it improves your chances not just physically, but in many other categories as well that might not be as obvious.

The vast majority of women prefer a guy to have hair..plain and simple...i don't think anyone can argue that. This preference, is of course going to make it easier..IN GENERAL...for a guy with hair to get girls over a guy with no hair. I can guarantee if you ask any woman "Would you rather be with a guy with a full head of hair or a guy who is bald" (just a simple question..no other variables) they're going to prefer having a guy with hair.

 

[DonaldAnderson]

I think a women cares about looks as much as a man does.

 

[HughJass]

Even if none of them used steroids, its still a useless point...cave women didn't have weights to lift and i'm pretty sure none of them were body builders...

Also I'm pretty sure 99% of females are not body builders...so I don't know that using body builders is a good way to make a point about the majority of women

My point was primitive females were much weaker than males..so protection and the ability for a man to provide was a big factor. Even today... your average guy is usually stronger than an athletic girl. Also, I'm not saying that today protection is the main factor in a woman's desire for a man..but...our brains are still wired very much the same way..so some of that mentality is still left

Well, there weren't weights and gyms around for men in those days either!


Women could have had just much opportunity to build their fitness as men via hunting, gathering, fashioning tools etc, things that men were doing


There is just no excusing women :nono:

 

[cuebald]

the thing is, women are only going to want to sleep with men they find attractive; a gold digging woman might decide to enter a relationship with a rich but ugly bald man, but if she doesn't find him attractive, the sex is always going to be strained and she's going to want to get it elsewhere.
Even if you have "money and power", if you are unattractive, 80%+ of women are going to just pass you by. Women are going to prefer a man they are actually attracted to, over a man who can buy them fancy things.
Why is it the guy I know who gets the most girls is the most handsome one, as opposed to the wealthiest (or most "alpha") one. (instead of providing for his women they often buy him things)

 

[seb]

So who wins out with a big bald guy vs a small weedy NW1?

A man with hair everytime.

 

[Chris87]

Even if none of them used steroids, its still a useless point...cave women didn't have weights to lift and i'm pretty sure none of them were body builders...

Also I'm pretty sure 99% of females are not body builders...so I don't know that using body builders is a good way to make a point about the majority of women

My point was primitive females were much weaker than males..so protection and the ability for a man to provide was a big factor. Even today... your average guy is usually stronger than an athletic girl. Also, I'm not saying that today protection is the main factor in a woman's desire for a man..but...our brains are still wired very much the same way..so some of that mentality is still left

Well, there weren't weights and gyms around for men in those days either!


Women could have had just much opportunity to build their fitness as men via hunting, gathering, fashioning tools etc, things that men were doing


There is just no excusing women :nono:

Um...yeah...but men are naturally much bigger and stronger...and i'm sure hunting and gathering is a decent workout. Is there something you're not getting here? Men are naturally bigger and stronger than women..theres really no arguing that. I mean I'm not here to debate the finer points of caveman fitness...it just is what it is

I really hope you're joking with some of your responses.....

 

[s.a.f]

You guys are getting confused with the word Attractive :

(Vt) To elicit interest, or admiration to draw by appeal or interest, emotion or aesthetic.

It does'nt just mean good looking.

 

[s.a.f]

If all you've got is looks you'll only attract shallow women.
If all you've got is money you'll only attract golddiggers.
If you've got personality you'll attract most women.

 

[Thom]

:agree:

 

[HughJass]

Even if none of them used steroids, its still a useless point...cave women didn't have weights to lift and i'm pretty sure none of them were body builders...

Also I'm pretty sure 99% of females are not body builders...so I don't know that using body builders is a good way to make a point about the majority of women

My point was primitive females were much weaker than males..so protection and the ability for a man to provide was a big factor. Even today... your average guy is usually stronger than an athletic girl. Also, I'm not saying that today protection is the main factor in a woman's desire for a man..but...our brains are still wired very much the same way..so some of that mentality is still left

Well, there weren't weights and gyms around for men in those days either!


Women could have had just much opportunity to build their fitness as men via hunting, gathering, fashioning tools etc, things that men were doing


There is just no excusing women :nono:

Um...yeah...but men are naturally much bigger and stronger...and i'm sure hunting and gathering is a decent workout. Is there something you're not getting here? Men are naturally bigger and stronger than women..theres really no arguing that. I mean I'm not here to debate the finer points of caveman fitness...it just is what it is

I really hope you're joking with some of your responses.....

It's not a matter of who can build the most muscle and be strongest, it's a matter of whether or not women can be physically strong enough to fend for themselves and do just as well as a man can.

Clearly they have the capability to build muscle and be strong and can kill things stronger and bigger than them (like their husbands).

Besides, I haven't seen you or anybody else provide evidence that primitive women were physically weaker. Maybe there is some, but I haven't seen it. Looks like all theory at the moment.

Even if there is some the onus is still on the proponents of this theory to prove that women's alleged physical inferiority -relative to men- was solely because of an innate disadvantage and not due to women choosing not to be more active/not using what they had.

 

[powersam]

 

[TravisB]

He has hair!

Looks aren't everything.

Hair isn't everything.

Confidence isn't everything.

MONEY IS EVERYTHING.

I guarantee, no matter how ugly you are, if you have shitload of $$$, you will always find yourself a hot girl to f*** (shallow, but still what you will f*** it's yours :mrgreen.

 

[Thom]

My Dad gets a lot of girls interested in him and he's a bald high school teacher, and quite a dork if I may say so myself.

But he has personality and a good sense of humor, that settles it for me. I mean he's not even a great looking guy.

Personality is the key! If you don't have it, hang out with people that do and you're likely to develop some confidence and social skills.

 

[HughJass]

men build more mass with the same training and typically have 20 to 40% more muscle mass than females. and i dont see why it would have been different back then . . . . . . . .

Again-

It's not a matter of who can build the most muscle and be strongest, it's a matter of whether or not women can be physically strong enough to fend for themselves and do just as well as a man can.

women in general like larger/stronger men naturally for a reason.

For two reasons- to make him into their own personal workhorse so they can do less work and for protection.

women can lift weights as well but they wont get anywhere as big as men, and if they have they've prolly taken testosterone or rode a bike (steroids). testosterone increases muscle mass and lowers fat percentages. estrogen does the opposite.

They can be strong enough to hunt, gather, build things and kill things. That is all that matters. Nobody can justify excusing women from any type of work men do, especially not by using specious theories about their supposed physical handicap.

 

[s.a.f]

He has hair!

Looks aren't everything.

Hair isn't everything.

Confidence isn't everything.

MONEY IS EVERYTHING.

I guarantee, no matter how ugly you are, if you have shitload of $$$, you will always find yourself a hot girl to f*ck (shallow, but still what you will f*ck it's yours :mrgreen.

Those 2 guys are billionaires.

Are you suggesting that we have to wait until we're billionaires?

 

[TravisB]

No. Millionaires is enough :mrgreen: