Does Any Of Proctors Crap Work Besides Proxiphen?

[Guest]

So proxiphen probably only works because it has minoxidil in it,Has anyone actually heard any good results from proxiphen n? This proctor seems like the biggest snake oil salesman ever.I have never heard of anyone having good results from any of his products,Besides proxiphen which seems to work,But in my opinion its just the minoxidil in it that is regrowing hair.Also another point is that anyone that sells a prodcut like proxipohen n for 30 dollars a month deserves a beating.What a scamming *unt,
Over charging men who have no choice.f*****g piece of sh*t.

 

[Bryan]

Oh dear...

 

[amsch]

What a scamming *unt,
Over charging men who have no choice.f****ing piece of s***.

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[Guest]

What a scamming *unt,
Over charging men who have no choice.f****ing piece of s***.

What the hell is wrong with you?

So you think someone charging that price for something that doesnt work is fair? He is a scamming *unt.Atleast i have the guts to say it.I havent heard one person here report any good results on any of his products besides proxiphen,And the only reason proxiphen works is because it has minoxidil in it.

 

[Guest]

I think its time for proctor to answer some questions about why hes products dont work, and why he charges an arm and a leg for snake oil.

 

[DoctorHouse]

Davidoff, who pissed in your corn flakes this morning?

 

[Guest]

I am sick of these scammers selling snake oil and getting away with it.Everybody knows prox n is snake oil and doesnt work at all,But no one seems to come out and say it on these forums.

 

[Guest]

Proctor is so full of sh*t saying that his product is like a natural minoxidil.The guys been scamming for years and getting away with it.The only reason proxiphen x works is because it has minoxidil.spironolactone doesnt work,And that other crap he puts in it doesnt work also.The guy has got rich selling snake oil with minoxidil in it.

 

[amsch]

I am sick of these scammers selling snake oil and getting away with it.Everybody knows prox n is snake oil and doesnt work at all,But no one seems to come out and say it on these forums.

Most of the people think that Revivogen is an expensive scam as well, and there aren't many success stories out there. As far as i know, you are using it and it works for you?

calm down, dude

 

[DoctorHouse]

Proctor's products are geared for people who do not respond well to the big 3. He never promises his products will work. He even says himself you have to try it to see if it works. Proxiphen has less than 2 percent minoxidil so his other ingredients in it must be pretty powerful too. I have regrowth in my juvenile hairline area from Proxiphen.

 

[amsch]

Proctor's products are geared for people who do not respond well to the big 3. He never promises his products will work. He even says himself you have to try it to see if it works. Proxiphen has less than 2 percent minoxidil so his other ingredients in it must be pretty powerful too. I have regrowth in my juvenile hairline area from Proxiphen.

Nice to hear that! I'm looking for a good treatment to get some regrowth on the hairline area as well... i lost a lot there in the last 1-1,5 years

btw, what's the "juveline hairline area"?

 

[DoctorHouse]

That's your original hairline you had as a young child(the hairline you are born with that becomes a mature one in your late teens to early twenties or for some late twenties).

 

[Guest]

DoctorHouse , I thought proxiphen had 5 % minoxidil.Even if it does give some minor results(which is due to minoxidil and nothing else),You have to admit that proctor is slime for selling it at $100 a month.

 

[DoctorHouse]

I would definitely agree with you about the price being way too high. It should be around 40 dollars. However, I do think Proctor is really out to help people and of course wants to be well compensated. My advice is don't worry about it. You do not have to shop for his products. What products do you think are worth using?

 

[sammo]

its tough cause i think if his products had some more success stories around i would rather try them than minoxidil... haha davidoff, we should appoint him to the male pattern baldness inquiry into overpriced snake oils.

 

[beaner]

DoctorHouse , I thought proxiphen had 5 % minoxidil.Even if it does give some minor results(which is due to minoxidil and nothing else),You have to admit that proctor is slime for selling it at $100 a month.

Proxiphen currently contains less than 2% minoxidil. This is per Dr Proctor himself. I agree, though, that it is very overpriced and has very little going for it in the way of success stories. Personally, I would never buy it. There was a thread recently on another site where Proctor advised the guy to drop regular 5% minoxidil in favor of his Proxiphen. Needless to say the poor guy shed a lot of hair after doing this.

 

[JWM]

Yeah his stuff is pricey, but he's not a con-man. He's a legit scientist with an impressive background and that deserves some respect.

Does his stuff work? Most likely? Personally, for the money, you'd be better off using generic finasteride and minoxidil.

Bryan Shelton posted pics of his 2 year Prox-N use that showed a little bit of thickening in the crown. And as much as I like Bryan and admire him for having the guts to post those pics, I WILL say that I think those particular pics aren't too terribly inspiring for a few reasons.

1) Bryan started using Prox-N when he was in his (I believe, correct if wrong) mid-forties. This means his loss was not aggressive considering he had his hairline and a small baldspot on the crown.

2) While it is clear there is no further loss in the after photo, I have to wonder (as mentioned in my first point) as to how bad his loss would have really progressed had he used nothing at all.

3) Although it was an expensive prescription product of only 2% at the time (his reason for not using it), I would have been VERY curious to see if Bryan could have gotten BETTER thickening with minoxidil use instead of Prox-N during that 2 year period.

 

[Bryan]

Does his stuff work? Most likely? Personally, for the money, you'd be better off using generic finasteride and minoxidil.

One of the main selling points for Dr. Proctor's stuff is that they are TOPICALS, with none of the much-discussed side effects of finasteride. So yes, if money is the only consideration and you don't have very much of it to spend on your hair and you don't mind the potential for side effects, you might be better off just getting some cheap generic finasteride and generic minoxidil.

Bryan Shelton posted pics of his 2 year Prox-N use that showed a little bit of thickening in the crown. And as much as I like Bryan and admire him for having the guts to post those pics, I WILL say that I think those particular pics aren't too terribly inspiring for a few reasons.

2) While it is clear there is no further loss in the after photo, I have to wonder (as mentioned in my first point) as to how bad his loss would have really progressed had he used nothing at all.

I do too, but the significant point is that there IS a small but noticeable improvement in the "after" photo, and that's after a period of almost exactly 2 years to the day. Balding sometimes does come to a halt and stabilize for a period of time, but it doesn't spontaneously improve all by itself! My photos show a definite response to Prox-N, not just a lucky stabilization.

3) Although it was an expensive prescription product of only 2% at the time (his reason for not using it), I would have been VERY curious to see if Bryan could have gotten BETTER thickening with minoxidil use instead of Prox-N during that 2 year period.

Personally, I consider that interesting question to be pretty much a toss-up: Rogaine _may_ have worked a bit better than Prox-N in the beginning, or it may not have. But that's not really the bottom-line for me. I consider Prox-N to be more of a LONG-TERM treatment than Rogaine is, which is why I would have still chosen Prox-N even if Rogaine appeared to be somewhat more effective in the short-term.

 

[philly]

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[Bryan]

Bryan, this is pure speculation based on your sole experience. That is nothing.

I agree that it's speculation, but it's not really based on my own experience at all. It's based on my (admittedly partial) understanding of how minoxidil works, and how the various SODs in Prox-N work. I'd rather have the SODs than the minoxidil. I think they are probably more effective in the long-term than minoxidil.