does finasteride completely stop your body from producing dht?

dekaz

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so if u take finasteride does it stop your body from producing dht and once you get all the dht in your scalp cleaned up with nizoral does that mean you no longer have any dht and you wont lose hair anymore? or does finasteride just reduce the amount of dht your body produces?

also i been seeing a ton of posts lately about dutasteride...is dutasteride now considered better than finasteride? i thought dutasteride was just a strong oral minoxidil, how is it supposed to stop dht and hair loss?

bout to order some more finasteride today..!
 

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I think it can stop body producing dht permanently at least in my case so I would be cautious. I got off propecia in 2013 but my penis hasn't recovered. I think I may need blood test done to know for sure. Is there a drug that can get body hormone back to before I took propecia?

damn man, i been on finasteride for 3 months but everytime i see people post about their penis not recovering or that they cant feel their balls it scares the hell out of me :(
 

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damn man, i been on finasteride for 3 months but everytime i see people post about their penis not recovering or that they cant feel their balls it scares the hell out of me :(

remember that this guy suffered some intense side effects while on the drug.
 

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I think it can stop body producing dht permanently at least in my case so I would be cautious. I got off propecia in 2013 but my penis hasn't recovered. I think I may need blood test done to know for sure. Is there a drug that can get body hormone back to before I took propecia?
There is no scientific evidence that shows propecia can have long lasting effects on erections.
Maybe you should see a sex therapist because I have a feeling that your erection issues are now being caused by some form of placebo effect.
Please stop spreading lies that propecia can inhibit 100 percent of DHT...The response curve is literally in this thread
 

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Oh and if you try to argue that long term use can lead to more DHT inhibition then you know nothing about how drugs even work...if somebody is on a drug long term they a more likely to end up having to take more of a druf in order to receive the same effect. The entire curve would just simply move to right.
A simple example would be alcohol...Your body as you drink alcohol in excess overtime you produce more enzymes in the liver to better metabolize alcohol making it less likely for you to get drunk on the same amount of alcohol as before...This idea of building a "tolerance" can be applied to most if not all drugs(prescription or recreational)
 

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I think it can stop body producing dht permanently at least in my case so I would be cautious. I got off propecia in 2013 but my penis hasn't recovered. I think I may need blood test done to know for sure. Is there a drug that can get body hormone back to before I took propecia?


That is completely untrue. Finasteride does not permanently stop DHT, even in your case. Any apparent side effects you have now are psychosomatic. We get it. You have an agenda and that is to spread lies about finasteride.
 

dekaz

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I was debating ordering RUwhateverthenumberis or dutasteride today but decided to order more finasteride cus i know thats the only thing that has been proven to work and has stood the test of time and i feel like its safer than these new experimental drugs.

though it is really annoying with all the fear mongering online, just look at this video and its comments

apparently propecia can cause cancer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18HdQfH56u4
 

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I was debating ordering RUwhateverthenumberis or dutasteride today but decided to order more finasteride cus i know thats the only thing that has been proven to work and has stood the test of time and i feel like its safer than these new experimental drugs.

though it is really annoying with all the fear mongering online, just look at this video and its comments

apparently propecia can cause cancer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18HdQfH56u4

I mean propecia definitely increases your chance of getting prostate cancer when you get into your 50's and 60's...but there is no history of any forms of cancer in my family, not even lung and my Great grandfather smoked until the day he died at 99 years old, so I am not worried about it too much...Also I would like to have hair since I am still in my 20 years old...And my dermatologist told me about the increase risk for prostate cancer when prescribing the medication
 

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Isn't the 5 mg finasteride prescribed for prostate cancer? How can then 1 mg increase the chance of getting cancer?

http://www.cancer.gov/types/prostate/research/finasteride-reduces-low-grade

Finasteride decreases chances of low grade prostate cancer but increases chances of developing high grade prostate cancer. Dutasteride is also believed to have the same effect.

Finasteride is prescribed for people who have low grade prostate cancer as you stated...Dutasteride is a somewhat more controversial drug given to men with low grade prostate cancer.

Not all of this information is in the source that I posted

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oh and BPH is not prostate cancer
 

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And the source comes from New England journal of medicine:

A very recent example of the sad reality over at the once-prestigious New England Journal of Medicine is their decision to publish a drug company-funded review article. This review attempts to discredit emerging research suggesting that many years of using Merck’s Fosamax or Procter & Gamble’s Actonel (both osteoporosis drugs in a class called bisphosphonates) could actually result in more leg bone fractures.
Not surprisingly, drug manufacturers of bisphosphonates are fighting back ferociously against this emerging (independent) research. A Merck-funded review paper published in the NEJM on March 24, 2010 concludes:
“The occurrence of fracture of the subtrochantericor diaphyseal femur was very rare, even among women who had been treated with bisphosphonates for as long as 10 years.”
Sounds promising for Big Pharma. But if you look very, very closely, the article’s fine print confesses:
“The study was underpowered for definitive conclusions.”
You might justifiably ask yourself why a medical journal would stoop to publishing a meaningless scientific paper that the paper’s own authors admit lacks any conclusion. Even more troubling than a journal article that was itself bought and paid for by Merck, is the conflict of interest disclosure list at the bottom of this NEJM article. It reads like aWho’s Who of Big Pharma.
Of the 12 study authors listed in the NEJM article, at least three are full-time employees of Merck or Novartis. Each one of the other nine admit owning equity interests in or receiving cash, travel expenses, or “consulting and lecture fees” from companies including Merck, Novartis, Amgen, Roche Nycomed, Procter & Gamble, AstraZeneca, GlaxoSmithKline, Medtronics, Nastech, Nestle, Fonterra Brands, OnoPharma, Osteologix, Pfizer, Eli Lilly, Sanofi-Aventis, Tethys, Unilever,Unipath, Inverness Medical, Ortho Clinical Diagnostics, OSIProsidion, or Takeda.
Why is the New England Journal of Medicine or any other credible medical journal accepting for publication articles submitted by paid employees of pharmaceutical companies?
The whole article.
http://ethicalnag.org/2009/11/09/nejm-editor/

Tell me how admitting that finasteride increases the risk of high grade prostate cancer benefits Merck in any way
 

never2late

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Stop being aggressive towards this guy. It is by know obvious that some people get irreversible side effects which include ED. My good friend got it from Propecia. Didn't had any problems before.

At least we can show some compassion for these people, not aggressiveness, rejection and ridicule. Pray to God you don't get to be in his place.

I'm not being aggressive. The past few days I've read multiple comments from this guy fear mongering people into not taking finasteride. Scaring people from making their own decisions is not helpful. He obviously has an agenda.

I've been on finasteride for just over a year with no known sides. I just added dutasteride twice a week a couple months ago. Also no sides from it as well. From my experience the people that get so called permanent sides are the people that constantly worry about getting sides, not including gyno. Any permanent sides IMHO are psychosomatic.
 

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I was debating ordering RUwhateverthenumberis or dutasteride today but decided to order more finasteride cus i know thats the only thing that has been proven to work and has stood the test of time and i feel like its safer than these new experimental drugs.

though it is really annoying with all the fear mongering online, just look at this video and its comments

apparently propecia can cause cancer...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18HdQfH56u4


Propecia doesn't actually cause cancer itself. The 18 year study found that it lowered chances of low grade prostate cancer and increases the chances of high grade by a tiny percentage. They even say that the reason they found more high grade is because it sort of masked the low grade cancer on those patients..

Anyways, prppecia doesn't cure or prevent cancer, all it does is minimize the chance of being diagnosed with low grade. This is beneficial because most low grade prostate cancers in men over 50 are better to be left untreated because the treatment to cancer could actually effect you alot more negatively than the actual cancer.

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Prostate cancer is something you shouldn't worry about unless you're 50+ on propecia
 

g.i joey

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Seeing all this really makes me feel good to know I could still have a sex life and be on finasteride... im really sorry for those who can't. But at the same time you have to understand pfs is am exaggerated version of whay people might be suffering as a result to taking propecia.
 

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Sides can appear after several years usage, and you have been using it for one year, so like Vincent said pray to God that it wont happen to you.
Your obvious agenda is to mislead people, since you know that you are stuck with the drug.
Like i mentioned do your research, before making your own conclusions about fear mongering, and psychosomatic states.

After reading some of your comments I can't take anything you say seriously. My agenda is for people to at least try finasteride and make their own decisions. Yours is to scare people because you don't want to be bald by yourself. Take care pal
 
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