Does Regaine 5% Minoxidil keep frontal hair?

[SlingXShot]

I am 22, a lot of frontal hair area is gone, like 50%. will just rogaine keep it there at 50%?

 

[dead]

I am 22, a lot of frontal hair area is gone, like 50%. will just rogaine keep it there at 50%?

Minoxidil does not stop the balding process, it may grow you a little extra hair or thicken up what you have but unless you address the underlying reasons your are losing your hair you will eventually continue to bald.

 

[viperfish]

I am 22, a lot of frontal hair area is gone, like 50%. will just rogaine keep it there at 50%?

Minoxidil does not stop the balding process, it may grow you a little extra hair or thicken up what you have but unless you address the underlying reasons your are losing your hair you will eventually continue to bald.

I agree somewhat! However, minoxidil does help you maintain. I don't think there is any evidence to suggest that minoxidil does not do this. Maintaining or keeping you hair looking good, I really don't think it matters as long as it keeps doing it. Now the big question is, Do you build up a tolerance to minoxidil or does it stop working? I personally don't think so. I guess you could kinda say the same for propecia.

 

[dead]

I agree somewhat! However, minoxidil does help you maintain.

Minoxidil simply offsets the reduction in hair from the minaturiztion of follicles by dihyrotestosterone, it does this by extending the growth period of the hairs it recruits to its cause.

Now the big question is, Do you build up a tolerance to minoxidil or does it stop working?

Neither, eventually the hair you are losing to the DHT onslaught will start to outweigh the hairs that minoxidil is managing to keep in suspended animation.

MINOXIDIL WILL NOT SAVE YOUR HAIR it will simply help you to look good as you go bald.

 

[WarLord]

Minoxidil simply offsets the reduction in hair from the minaturiztion of follicles by dihyrotestosterone, it does this by extending the growth period of the hairs it recruits to its cause.



Neither, eventually the hair you are losing to the DHT onslaught will start to outweigh the hairs that minoxidil is managing to keep in suspended animation.

MINOXIDIL WILL NOT SAVE YOUR HAIR it will simply help you to look good as you go bald.

Is there still anybody, who believes this bullsh*t?





I wonder, if anybody has some financial motives to spread this propaganda? Or do they simply parrot, what the Great Baldy Bryan says?

 

[FridgeFridge]

I think Minoxidil does give hair that 'bit of extra life' as stated above and obviously regrow lost hairs. However I think studies showed that after the regrowth period balding continues at the prior rate. So I think if we were to look at a before and after photo even in some cases up to 10 years we may well think "yes he has maintained" - but this could even be a few years of regrowth followed by loss that lead back to the initial position, so if we were to take a photo say at the 15 year stage would we now notice the balding? it's also important to realise that if these hairs would have been lost without the minoxidil, that they are now minoxidil dependant.

I think minoxidil is good at what it does and when used with finasteride you can even keep the regrown hairs for years, but people taking only minoxidil should be aware of the above imo.

 

[WarLord]

However I think studies showed that after the regrowth period balding continues at the prior rate.

Please, save me from this NONSENSE. The man, who came with this for the first time, must have had an IQ in the area of mental retardation. I am not aware of any study that would demonstrate this "theory". And anecdotal experience destroys this stupid claim completely. Someone just made it up and you repeat it after him like trained parrots.

By the way, I have kept my NW1.5 hairline on minoxidil alone (2-5%) for 15,5 years without any noticeable change. Only last year I added 5-AR blockers (and not because minoxidil would start to lose efficiacy).

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Some interesting debate on this topic:
http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=75704

 

[FridgeFridge]

Warlord - Perhaps you should read the full studies you are so keen to link the graphs from.

The studies show that after the initial growth period balding at the prior rate continues. In of them one of the researchers even says something along the lines of how (after the initial growth period) minoxidil maintains the difference between the minoxidil and placebo groups. It is important to note that the the writer used the term maintenance to mean the gap between the two is maintained I.e they are both balding at a simular rate. Compare this with with finasteride, where the gap between the groups grow every year in the studies.

Warlord i'm not sure about your attitude, "must have had IQ in the are of mental retardation" phrases like this to me speaks volumes about you if this is the sort of thing you would say to people you disagree with - although perhaps not quite so loud as the fact you have recently added 5-ARs yourself..hmm!

anyone wanting to read up on this in my opinion should give this (rather large) thread a thorough read, especially you Warlord, it has people with opinions of both sides. Tell me what you think.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/...d=92867&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

you may of course, attempt to liken me to a parrot again, but imo, if your going to repeat stuff, its better you get it right!

As for you maintaining (keeping your hair in this case) for 15 years or so on minoxidil, the point im trying to get across it that I dont doubt this is possible, i fully believe min can do this however any hair minoxidil has saved over this period are now minoxidil dependant and so continued use of minoxidil is needed to keep them indefinitely, not even finasteride alone will save them now. My entire point to you was that minoxidil will add growth then continued balding and eventually people will be wanting to get on finasteride or whatever

You are a perfect example! its the you of 15 years ago im trying to help, imo Warlord if you were to quit minoxidil and keep on finasteride you would lose a load of hair, on the other hand if you had got on finasteride at the start (15 years ago) you would probably have the same amount of hair and never needed minoxidil, and probably never need it. (unless you wanted regrowth originally!)

Lets be honest, you have now got on finasteride (or some other AR blocker), you clearly felt a need to do it, theres not really need to speculate the reasons why, Imo if you could go back 15 years you would get on finasteride yourself.

In summary and my opinion.... (and this is the last I will say on the matter)

If you had a twin brother and 15 years ago he got on simply finasteride while you did what you did, both of you today would have simular amounts the only difference being he would only need finasteride to maintain what he had while you are now needing both.

Im aware I may have repeated myself a few times here, but for some reason, I just felt I had to.....

Good luck.

 

[WarLord]

Warlord - Perhaps you should read the full studies you are so keen to link the graphs from.

The studies show that after the initial growth period balding at the prior rate continues. In of them one of the researchers even says something along the lines of how (after the initial growth period) minoxidil maintains the difference between the minoxidil and placebo groups. It is important to note that the the writer used the term maintenance to mean the gap between the two is maintained I.e they are both balding at a simular rate. Compare this with with finasteride, where the gap between the groups grow every year in the studies.

Warlord i'm not sure about your attitude, "must have had IQ in the are of mental retardation" phrases like this to me speaks volumes about you if this is the sort of thing you would say to people you disagree with - although perhaps not quite so loud as the fact you have recently added 5-ARs yourself..hmm!

anyone wanting to read up on this in my opinion should give this (rather large) thread a thorough read, especially you Warlord, it has people with opinions of both sides. Tell me what you think.

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/...d=92867&STARTPAGE=1&FTVAR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

This is exactly the thread that I consider as the internet source of this mythmaking propaganda. Thank you for the confirmation of my suspicion. And note that the user "Casanova" lists anecdotal experiences that are in accordance with my own ones.

I can offer you another one, with similar protagonists:
http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=10&threadid=75704

It is funny that the "minoxidil haters" on that thread (Bryan, Decade Two) actually quote a minoxidil study that shows a pretty good stabilization after ca. 60 weeks of treatment, not continuous loss. But for the average reader it would be too annoying to find the study and to check the data, wouldn't it?

And as for finasteride, it was the biggest disappointment in the nearly 17-years' long history of my anti-hairloss treatments. I started with it in June last year and it did virtually nothing. Only after I added dutasteride 3 months ago, things finally began to change.

 

[FridgeFridge]

I dont think they are Minoxidil haters at all, in fact I think Decade Two is actually on it himself. I never took finasteride either going straight for dutasteride instead as I was happy with the hair I had at the time, if id had felt I needed regrowth at the crown or temples Id have happily got on minoxidil as well.

 

[Tom1985]

This site is notoriously anti-minoxidil. People keep saying 'minoxidil doesn't interfere with the fundamental process of balding' and **** like that but Rogaine DOES thicken and regrow hair at least to some extent. Forget these pseudo-scientific phrases that people with no background in science and medicine love to throw around.

I've been on Rogaine and nizoral for nearly 6 years and I would hate to think what my hair would be like without them.

 

[Bowser]

I don't understand how this site would be particularly more anti-minoxidil than any other site. I mean, would people who had a less than expected result with minoxidil choose to come on this site rather than others?

I don't understand why some people have to be so aggressive on here - namely Warlord who actually speaks a lot of sense but appears to be a bully.
I mean what do they expect to achieve except stop other users from discussing and raising their hair loss stresses on here. Totally goes against what this site is actually supposed to be here for.

 

[WarLord]

I don't understand how this site would be particularly more anti-minoxidil than any other site. I mean, would people who had a less than expected result with minoxidil choose to come on this site rather than others?

I don't understand why some people have to be so aggressive on here - namely Warlord who actually speaks a lot of sense but appears to be a bully.
I mean what do they expect to achieve except stop other users from discussing and raising their hair loss stresses on here. Totally goes against what this site is actually supposed to be here for.

I think that I am not the one, who "raises other people's stresses". It is those, who say that minoxidil is practically useless, and reduce their choice of treatments to 5-ar blockers. You must understand that after my 16+ years' experience with minoxidil, I can't simply stand such loads of nonsense like "Oh, minoxidil will give you a short-term offset of hairgrowth, and then your hairloss will continue at the same rate like before". I see red. This absurd rubbish is being propagated on the internet over and over again, and many people mindlessly repeat it. I say: Enough is enough!

 

[FridgeFridge]

What have I said that is nonsense Warlord? If you read (and comprehend) what I said, you would realise at no point have you actually stated why you disagree with me, and your 16 years plus experience with minoxidil doesn't either

I do think it is possible for someone like yourself to have visibly simular hair 15 years later on just minoxidil (though I think its rare) however personally I would be interested to see what would happen to your hair if you suddenly dropped minoxidil and stayed on dutasteride (I think you would lose alot.)

If you think I am of the opinion that minoxidil is practically useless then id say you need to calm down when you read what people say and try not to 'see red' As it seems you are seeing what you expect to see instead of what I am actually saying. we can try and have a proper discussion about something without having to be completely for or against it.

 

[WarLord]

What have I said that is nonsense Warlord? If you read (and comprehend) what I said, you would realise at no point have you actually stated why you disagree with me, and your 16 years plus experience with minoxidil doesn't either

I do think it is possible for someone like yourself to have visibly simular hair 15 years later on just minoxidil (though I think its rare) however personally I would be interested to see what would happen to your hair if you suddenly dropped minoxidil and stayed on dutasteride (I think you would lose alot.)

If you think I am of the opinion that minoxidil is practically useless then id say you need to calm down when you read what people say and try not to 'see red' As it seems you are seeing what you expect to see instead of what I am actually saying. we can try and have a proper discussion about something without having to be completely for or against it.

You can't say, if it is "rare", because no study on this topic has been done. Remember that only ca. 2/3 men react to 5% minoxidil, so you have a large army of non-responders cumulationg on internet message boards.

And as for dutasteride, of course, I would lose my hair, because it is dependent on minoxidil. I will take minoxidil until I die.

 

[FridgeFridge]

Fair enough

I think we are on the same wavelength,

good luck to you.

As for me, im avoiding minoxidil only because Im happy with the hair I have now and taking a pill is so much easier than applying minoxidil, however applying minoxidil is no chore, if ever I feel I want regrowth or extra help maintaining - I will happily get on it.

 

[Kirby]

I dont think they are Minoxidil haters at all, in fact I think Decade Two is actually on it himself.

He is. And D2 is one of the most knowledgeable, rational and objective people I've encountered on hair loss forums.

I will take minoxidil until I die.

You can't rule out there being advances that make minoxidil completely obsolete.

 

[WarLord]

He is. And D2 is one of the most knowledgeable, rational and objective people I've encountered on hair loss forums.


You can't rule out there being advances that make minoxidil completely obsolete.

I also think that Decade Two has very reasonable thoughts, and I especially appreciate his replies to the so-called "hairloss defeatists": However, he is completely wrong with regard to the efficiacy of minoxidil. He has never taken it on his own. He takes only dutasteride and sometimes RU.

Minoxidil will never be completely "obsolete", at least in the horizon of the next 100 years, because it has a very specific mechanism of action. There are thousands of people dependent on it. They must take it until the end of their lives.

 

[Kirby]

Are you entirely sure? My thoughts are, as a layman, that if something like Histogen injections, Bimatoprost topicals, etc, become available as growth stimulator options, and are proven to work better than minoxidil, then wouldn't they be able to then substitute the minoxidil for new treatments? I'm thinking aloud here as someone who will admit to knowing very little about hair loss science.

 

[WarLord]

Are you entirely sure? My thoughts are, as a layman, that if something like Histogen injections, Bimatoprost topicals, etc, become available as growth stimulator options, and are proven to work better than minoxidil, then wouldn't they be able to then substitute the minoxidil for new treatments? I'm thinking aloud here as someone who will admit to knowing very little about hair loss science.

I only went from 10% to 5% minoxidil in my temples, and it virtually annihilated all my hair there. It hasn't regrown back even after 1 year. Now there are only few hairs remaining. It was really devastating, because I wanted some regrowth, and I ended up with much less hair than at the beginning.

I would want to believe that minoxidil will be substituted by some new thing, but after my experience, I think that it will never come true. I am a slave of this drug until the end of my life.