Double-crown or losing hair?

[Nick84]

Hi guys, great to find this community on the internet.

I was wondering whether you could tell me what you think about my pics, I'm wondering whether my hair is thinning or if it's down to the way my hair grows.

I've already spoken with my derm and he said he sees no signs of male pattern baldness; also my hairdresser told me that I've got more than one cowlick in the back of my head and this is what's causing this. In any case, I was wondering if I could get your opinion too. I should say that I'm 25 years and I've always had thick, dense hair and I don't have any signs of receding at the front(hairline).

These are 2 pics with longer hair:

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp13 ... G_1905.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp13 ... G_1912.jpg

And two pics after I got my haircut the other day(hair is a bit wet in these photos and the light shines on some hair strands making them less visible):

http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp13 ... G_1919.jpg
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp13 ... G_1920.jpg

Basically I'm concerned about that part in the back of the head where a line/partition appears(I've separated the hair in some of the photos so it can appear more clear) close to the cowlick I have. If I don't separate the strands hair tends to stick up there and cover that line. I've heard that this is common for people with a double crown and some say that I've got two swirls in the back of my head.

So, is this simply a double-crown or male pattern baldness?

Many thanks in advance.

Nick

 

[Nuli]

Looks like a cowlick to me, not a double crown. That swirl area is completely normal. If you wanted to know for sure if you're thinning though, you could shave it down.

 

[follicle84]

I've seen girls with crowns like that. I wouldnt worry its just the the lining of the way your hair grows. Everyones got it but this lining is different to each individual. Mine goes across the left side of my scalp. You havent got a problem.

 

[Dan_NW2]

Hey there:

That is exactly whats going on in the back of my head. I went to a hair transplant Doctor and he stated its a hair swirl (cowlick) as he measured the density in that are and confirmed no thining or hairloss unlike my disastrous temple areas of my head. Just do a google search on the web for hair swirls etc and you will see its quite common amongst children, especially girls.

 

[elvis123]

The swirl is the part that starts to thin off first

 

[Hectic_Jam]

The swirl is the part that starts to thin off first

Not always true, I'm just receding at the moment with some thinning at the front and my cowlick/swirl has stayed the exact same since before i started to be effected by male pattern baldness.

 

[Nick84]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I'm just curious whether it's a 'normal' looking cowlick or not. For example I see people on the street with swirs that are barely visible and others with more prominent ones.

I might seek another professional opinion after what elvis wrote, just to make sure.

 

[ClayShaw]

Thanks for the replies guys.

I'm just curious whether it's a 'normal' looking cowlick or not. For example I see people on the street with swirs that are barely visible and others with more prominent ones.

I might seek another professional opinion after what elvis wrote, just to make sure.

I'm not sure elvis is 100% correct. I think he's probably right in the sense that this is true for some people, but not for everyone, and if it happens for some people, its coincidence. Think about it: You lose hair due to the effects of DHT. Wherever you have hair sensitive to DHT, you will lose it. I'm losing hair in the whole front of my head. So far, my crown is good, and I have the double cowlick like you have. I think that there's less hair there to start with, so it shows up more quickly than it does elsewhere. If you're worried, get your hair mapped for miniaturization. That will be your answer.

 

[Nick84]

Thanx again. Is every dermatologist able to do that check or do I need to find someone that specialises in hair loss? Because my derm did a different kind of check, he used a pair of magnifyng glasses and throughly checked my entire scalp, before telling me he sees nothing to worry about.

Also, is it common for hair to thin at the crown without the hairline receding? Because I don't have any signs of receding hairlne and from what I understand that is the first sign of male pattern baldness.

 

[Doug Douglas]

Also, is it common for hair to thin at the crown without the hairline receding? Because I don't have any signs of receding hairlne and from what I understand that is the first sign of male pattern baldness.

Sometimes thinning at the crown will be the first place a diffuser will notice it. People with diffuse hairloss won't notice loss at the hairline until later than most people with male pattern baldness, if they do at all. So, to answer your question, yes, plenty of people thin in the crown first without having any loss in the front or top.