Dr. Cole in 1 Month

[HotBaldGuy]

Hey Everyone,

I'm undergoing a FIT on August 4th with Dr. Cole. Any last words? I was impressed with him and his staff at our initial consultation; he spent at least 30 minutes speaking with me. I hope this works, otherwise, I guess it's the "Farrell" system for me, haha.

 

[DaveOne]

Hopefully you can get some good before and after pics. How many grafts are you getting? The one thing you can be sure of at Cole's is your results will look as natural as a hair transplant can get. Good luck!

 

[CCS]

I looked at dr coles site

here is his page. I'm sniffing it out.
http://www.forhair.com/fit_new1.htm

I guess it looks legit. I looked at some BHE pics and they were so far away I could not see if there were any scars. Just look at many of the before and after pics and try to find some close up after pics of the donor area of body hair. That is where you would see any scars. If he is a scammer, he appealing to the smarter people with some microscope slides of skin tissue. Most scammers don't get that detailed and just stick to far away pics. Yeah, he goes into detail here.

I'm not reading the whole site yet, but any time you cut out a 1mm wide core (I don't know if that is how he does it) scar tissue will fill in the gap. It should leave a bunch of specks which look good on light skin but may not tan like the other skin. I don't know how he gets around this, or why he does not show close ups of buzzed hair. I did not look at all his pics, but I just saw after pics of patients with long hair or 1/4 inch hair. Look for close ups of ones with 1/16th inch hair. The picture should be at least 4 inches accross on your screen. Any legit doctor will have big pictures for you. My pictures with Dr Keene filled a 19 inch monitor in her office.

During my first procedure with her, i was afraid there would be a noticable scar. I told her if there was one I'd just fill it in with FUE. She did not put down the FUE, so I guess that means it is OK in the right hands.

Dr Cole does quote Bernstein, who is very skilled.

http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com/se ... rch=%3E%3E
Dig around on this site. This site is trustable because they rank Dr Keene and Dr Shapiro as the best, and do not even list Bosley as decent. That link has some mention of Dr Cole. Read some of the results of the serach.

 

[DaveOne]

The fact that a Doctor is ranked over on the hairtransplantnetwork means nothing. The moderator of that forum promotes docs that pay him to be in the coalition, just remember that. Also, what FUE docs are promoted on that site? None that I've heard of anywhere else.

Go to some of the docs recommended on that site. MOST photos on hair transplant docs websites are terrible, and not close up at all. I randomly picked out around 10 websites from the "coalition" and not one of those sites had high res, close up pics. Fact is, you can't learn much from a website. I don't trust any doctors on any of these forums or coalitions simply because they paid someone 10k to promote them. Best way is to see patients, period. Don't believe a website.

The problem with that way everything works is that the doctors are running a business (all of them) and they need some form of advertising to attract patients to their clinic. So, you have to keep that in mind when you go to any forum.

You won't find much info about Cole at that site, because he and the moderator had a falling out. This happens all the time...it's politics. I've seen moderators change their tune in a heartbeat if the Doctor isn't playing their game. This is an unfortunate aspect of the industry. He probably does more FUE than any doctor in the country right now. His results are out there, you just have to seek them out. I can say that perhaps the most renowned and respected strip clinic (H&W) have recommended Cole to their patients who didn't want to do strip surgery. That should tell you something.

http://www.hairsite4.com/dc/dcboard.php ... s&forum=12 (do a search for Cole)

http://www.hairlosshelp.com/forums/cate ... zb=1612665
(same thing..Search>Cole)

He is also listed in Spenser Kobren's coalition at the baldtruth, and so is Shapiro. What does that mean? It means nothing. Check out his patients in person if you really want to know.

 

[vegeguy]

Cole is legit and very good

I have heard and read that Cole is one of the best ... I feel that you are in good hands ... please update us and keep us informed ... Best of luck!

 

[CCS]

a newbie says you are in good hands. that should reasure you. ha!

The previous poster is right though. Any doctor that does not show extreme close ups of the donor and recipient areas is acting a little fishy.

 

[not me!]

He's hardly a newbie to hair loss forums. It's pretty ironic that he chastises one hair loss forum for not recommending a physician and then goes on to recommend someone read articles from two other hair loss forums that Dr. Cole sponsors.

Yes, it's politics. And this guy's posts are about the best spin there is. :lol:

 

[not me!]

I just took a look at both of the sites that "DaveOne" recommends one should trust for good info on this physician.

Funny how his ads show up on the FRONT PAGE of BOTH of them, isn't it?!?

This particular Doctor's picture and bio is located in the black flash banner located almost directly under "Hair Loss Help"

His flash animation is located in the right column directly under "Sponsors" on Hairsite.


So...yeah, of course a Doctor gets good recommendations on forums located on sites where he is a MAJOR ADVERTISOR.

...And this guy has the nerve to speak badly about the other site that has advertisors?

Fishy, fishy, fishy.

 

[DaveOne]

Guys,

You didn't read the gist of my post, which was you need to SEE PATIENTS IN PERSON, and that EACH forum is biased, including the ones I mentioned. I only pointed out the other forums because the guy is trying to get info about the Doctor he is going to, and there's not a lot of info on him at the other forum that the one guy pointed out. I really don't trust any forum or website at face value for that matter. There is just a lot more dialogue about that Doctor on those sites. Take it for what it's worth. He can sort through the info himself from that point.

Oh, and the only reason I said anything in the first place was because collegechemistrystudent was pointing out the hairtransplantnetwork website as legit because they had Dr. Shapiro as a sponsor, and my point was that a website isn't inherently trustworthy just because certain docs are advertised on it. I think Shapiro is a good Doctor, but it's because of his results. The fact that he pays a site to promote him and the fact that he is a good Doctor are mutually exclusive. That goes for any doctor and any website, including Cole's or Shapiro's. Once again, the only way to know for sure is to see the work in person.

 

[not me!]

Guys,

You didn't read the gist of my post, which was you need to SEE PATIENTS IN PERSON, and that EACH forum is biased, including the ones I mentioned. I only pointed out the other forums because the guy is trying to get info about the Doctor he is going to, and there's not a lot of info on him at the other forum that the one guy pointed out.

Oh really? Funny how your first response to him was this:

The one thing you can be sure of at Cole's is your results will look as natural as a hair transplant can get.

:roll:

 

[DaveOne]

Ok, well my original intent was to offer him some support before he goes into surgery. Sorry. I was probably too flippant about it. Maybe I shouldn't have said his results will look natural, and maybe it came off as cheerleading, but that wasn't my intention at all. Is it biased? Of course it is. I have seen Cole patients in person though, so I have direct knowledge. It is still my opinion, just as your opinion is yours, but I'm not basing my opinion on website photos. Perhaps I should have mentioned that in my opening statement, but I wasn't trying to do anything but give the man some support.

Then, collegechemistry raised some doubt about Cole, based on looking at his website, so I just wanted to point out that if you want to do that, then I can say that about any Doctor- ie go to their website, and talk about the quality of their pics, etc. It is a pointless debate. If he points out a forum to go to, I can point out another one. If that's the game, then my ultimate point is to see patients in person, if you really want to know the truth.

Since this is a patient's forum mostly (or maybe it isn't), I thought it would be appropriate as a patient who has seen other patients of Cole to put my two cents in, in the same way collegechem puts his two cents in about Keene or Shapiro since he has direct experience with them.

 

[not me!]

If you are, in fact, genuine then you will understand my suspicion. There has been more than one "patient" that has shown up on this forum in the last couple of weeks to "help" out another member. I noticed that you wasted no time in his thread as well (youngndumb).

Everyone is trying to tell this young man what *they* think is right for him. One "patient" even came on the forums to offer him a possible free surgery on behalf of a doctor.

While claiming to be "just a patient." Yeah. Right. :roll:

This forum is pretty uncorrupted as far as shills go. I'd like to see it stay that way.

 

[DaveOne]

Not me,

I apologize if I came off that way. Yes I'm new to this forum, but I've been posting for awhile on the forums I mentioned. So when I jumped right in, I should have made that more clear (actually, in my first post to youngndumb i pointed out that I've been posting a lot on another site, and he could read my posts there). Youngndumb actually posted on that forum before, so I didn't think I was out of line. So my attitude as a poster might have seemed a bit strong for a new poster, but I'm not new to forums in general. But I understand why someone might have seen that I just joined and I'm jumping right in and felt that was inappropriate, so if I stepped on anyone's toes or violated some sort of ettiquette I really do apologize. To be honest, the forums that I've been spending time on the most have been getting boring lately, so I noticed this one and started posting. So I am a newbie here, but I'm not a newbie to forums or the hair transplant industry as a whole. The forum that I mentioned to youngndumb literally has a sh##load of posts about the exact thing he is looking for (ie, graft removal, shaving the head, scar repair, etc), so I thought I'd point that out to him. I'm a repair patient of Cole's btw.

 

[LookingGood!]

Granted you have done ur research, you cant go wrong with Cole. He is clearly one of the best for FUE if not the best. Never look at pics to decide ur choice. I almost fell that route with Armani but decided against strip.

 

[CCS]

"granted you've done your research, you can't go wrong with cole"? research just tells you if a Doctor is good, it does not make a Doctor good. sounds like the last newbie just changed user names. a true patient would have told their experience or mentioned some technical info, not said something stupid like, "the more research you do on dr cole, the better results he will give you". that is so fishy. i'll bet cole wrote it himself.

 

[CCS]

good point though, that just because shapiro pays a site for advertisement does not mean the other docs there are good

 

[Guest]

One of the very bad signs in any clinic is the continual turnover of staff even if the Doctor is talented. Some clinics continually have turnover from the front office to the surgical staff. Look closer and start asking why? Yes talent is important, BUT SO IS ETHICS! :freaked:

 

[Thinning fast]

gillenator, does Dr. Cole change staff quite often? That would be kind of fishy

 

[Guest]

Thinning,

That's something you could verify yourself. I always encourage patients to do this because I agree continual turnover is not a good sign.

The temperament of those in charge of their clinics has a definite ripple effect throughout every employee. The wrong environment can put everyone on egg shells and supress them. They can be pre-occupied with fear of not wanting to do anything wrong to the point where they lose complete creativity and objectivity. They feel inhibited and even defensive because they do not receive the proper support, training, and direction from those over them. That's why they end up leaving over and over again.

Any clinic is as strong as its weakest link :roll:

But just think of all of the advantages where people are happy and want to give their best to every patient!

 

[LookingGood!]

"granted you've done your research, you can't go wrong with cole"? research just tells you if a Doctor is good, it does not make a Doctor good. sounds like the last newbie just changed user names. a true patient would have told their experience or mentioned some technical info, not said something stupid like, "the more research you do on dr cole, the better results he will give you". that is so fishy. i'll bet cole wrote it himself.

I disagree with you. I am not a shill for any Doctor. I did my research and saw results in person and networked. Your cynicism will not deter me from selecting Cole. There is risk to any surgery but I do feel comfortable with my decision.

What makes you an expert? Your just a guy who had a transplant and posted more on this forum, so that makes you an authority? That's what's stupid is a guy who posts on forums and thinks he has all the answers and responds with meaningless rhetoric to cover his behind. Please!