Dr. Tsuji Kyocera, Riken Research, Organ Technologies Form Regenerative Hair Research Team

[hilbert]

They would still need to replicate enough cells and frankly who knows how many follicles they can create from just a single scalp biopsy? Maybe it would be enough for the top of the scalp but not for everywhere else.

Also they would need to see how cloned hairs grow in different areas of the scalp.

If they don't start on the assumption that people will want a full scalp regeneration, they may only make provisions to multiplicate cell germs for the top and crown.

You would then end up needing another chunk of flesh removed to treat the back and sides and paying for the procedure twice. Not good.

That is why they should be thinking about treating the whole head from the get go.

Doing this now would lead to a more comprehensive treatment and better overall deal for us in the future.

I'm just not sure they are aware this is what we want.

usually hair transplant planning is done the day before or the very morning

 

[stump]

Lmao I'm just gonna laser off almost all my scalp hair then have tsuji hook me up.

Probably won't work on scarred scalp so you'll just have to wait to go completely bald to have a full head of hair again. NW7 is the new NW1!

 

[stump]

http://www.cdb.riken.jp/en/news/2016/topics/0712_9109.html

Sounds like they’re still doing research. Doesn’t clarify exactly what step in the research (seeing if this even works on human scalp tissue or seeing how to upscale the amount they make?) they are on though. This source is straight from Dr. TSUJ's page at Riken.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Probably won't work on scarred scalp so you'll just have to wait to go completely bald to have a full head of hair again. NW7 is the new NW1!

Lasering doesn't usually scar the scalp. I would have to laser the dermis layer which is really deep.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

Probably won't work on scarred scalp so you'll just have to wait to go completely bald to have a full head of hair again. NW7 is the new NW1!

If I dont laser it I'm gonna get me a prescription for some DHT cream and jump in a tub full of it.

 

[Torin]

As long as pili multigemini is not an issue you will be fine. If it is an issue, your donor hair is fucked. That should be what we find out.

I don't think pili multigemini would be an issue. It seems to be something genetic.

Look how the hairs grow in Riken's artificial skin. Each follicle growing nice and separately from the one next to it:

If they were to re-inject the same area again, the new follicles would probably grow neatly in the space between.

Maybe there is a saturation point/limit to how many hairs can be in a given space, but we know that some people have 400+ hairs per 1cm2.

Now the very fact you would be enquiring to have your already hairy areas injected probably means you had density around 200 hairs per cm2 or more likely less than 140 per cm2.

Tsuji's method would boost the density up by about 130 new hairs. That would still mean you would be quite a bit under the 400 per cm2 found in some densely-haired individuals, who don't exhibit pili multigemini.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

I don't think pili multigemini would be an issue. It seems to be something genetic.

Look how the hairs grow in Riken's artificial skin. Each follicle growing nice and separately from the one next to it:

If they were to re-inject the same area again, the new follicles would probably grow neatly in the space between.

Maybe there is a saturation point/limit to how many hairs can be in a given space, but we know that some people have 400+ hairs per 1cm2.

Now the very fact you would be enquiring to have your already hairy areas injected probably means you had density around 200 hairs per cm2 or more likely less than 140 per cm2.

Tsuji's method would boost the density up by about 130 new hairs. That would still mean you would be quite a bit under the 400 per cm2 found in some densely-haired individuals, who don't exhibit pili multigemini.

We need to come up with way to shed all of our hair extremely quickly so there won't be any problem with existing hair.

 

[Xaser94]

We need to come up with way to shed all of our hair extremely quickly so there won't be any problem with existing hair.

creatine supplements would prolly do it lol. Or accutane.

 

[pegasus2]

Now I've heard it all. I'm going to laugh so hard when someone does this and then the treatment doesn't work on them for some reason.

 

[Torin]

If I try to look at this thing objectively, I don't think there should be any reason why they couldn't inject anywhere, hair or no hair.

It's just a question of whether they could create enough cells from a single scalp biopsy as it would entail over twice the work than their illustration is suggesting.

If they made you pay a second time (as in two separate procedures, two biopsies etc.), that would be really hard on the pocket and obviously mean more scarring. That's why I hope they can create unlimited cells from one biopsy.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

If I try to look at this thing objectively, I don't think there should be any reason why they couldn't inject anywhere, hair or no hair.

It's just a question of whether they could create enough cells from a single scalp biopsy as it would entail over twice the work than their illustration is suggesting.

If they made you pay a second time (as in two separate procedures, two biopsies etc.), that would be really hard on the pocket and obviously mean more scarring. That's why I hope they can create unlimited cells from one biopsy.

I'm still worried about the possibility that they'll have it set up to where I have to get the treatment every year.

 

[Torin]

I'm still worried about the possibility that they'll have it set up to where I have to get the treatment every year.

It will be meant as a one off, definitive treatment. I'm almost completely sure of that. These cloned hairs should last for life or at least decades.

Tsuji's research indicated that the hairs on the back of the mice returned after being plucked and they lasted for the rest of the mouse's lifespan.

Tsuji is also involved in research for regenerating teeth, salivary glands and other organs. Organ regeneration therapy. It's not meant to fall out after a year lol.

 

[Pray The Bald Away]

It will be meant as a one off, definitive treatment. I'm almost completely sure of that. These cloned hairs should last for life or at least decades.

Tsuji's research indicated that the hairs on the back of the mice returned after being plucked and they lasted for the rest of the mouse's lifespan.

Tsuji is also involved in research for regenerating teeth, salivary glands and other organs. Organ regeneration therapy. It's not meant to fall out after a year lol.

I realize that but I'm still worried the new hairs will f*** up the old ones and lead to a pimpled scalp with a ton of irritation.

 

[Torin]

 

[hellouser]

It will be meant as a one off, definitive treatment. I'm almost completely sure of that. These cloned hairs should last for life or at least decades.

Tsuji's research indicated that the hairs on the back of the mice returned after being plucked and they lasted for the rest of the mouse's lifespan.

Tsuji is also involved in research for regenerating teeth, salivary glands and other organs. Organ regeneration therapy. It's not meant to fall out after a year lol.

Fountain of youth, essentially. This guy should be getting as much press as Jesus.. too bad we give more spotlight to a fictional character.

 

[NewUser]

That is the wonderfully predictable nature of capitalism.

Actually existing capitalism has given us more financial services and burgeoning debts not hair.

 

[hellouser]

Actually existing capitalism has given us more financial services and burgeoning debt not hair. I think big pharma's last blockbuster drug was Tylenol version 38 or something like that. They actually have few incentives to invest in r & d when they can increase sales of old drug discoveries by spending millions more on marketing.

They're a business. Of course they would rather make more money. They don't give a sh*t about your health... they only want what's in your wallet. George Carlin said it best about politicians 'They don't give a f*** about you. At all.' Which applies to pharmaceuticals as well.

 

[Ken1983]

Kyocera's release date of 2020 seems too optimistic. The reaserchers at Riken think it will take 5-10 years, i trust them much more than Kyocera.


Riken have only been testing on slick bald lab rats. We have no idea how smoothly this technology will translate to humans; how will diffuse thinners react vs slick bald patients? will hairs grow out in uniform directions and naturally form a good looking crown/hairline, or will they grow out in random directions? These questions are unanswered and could take another decade to figure out.

 

[Ken1983]

in the next year or so i will probably get a hair transplant, but im not waiting 10 years for this. Although when i get further loss in 10 years time, i will likely get this treatment. i am half japanese, so accommodation would be free.

 

[Swoop]

Bosses, these guys are probably going to do it. I believe .

Damn. I'm hyped. Best development ever by a large margin.