Dr. Tweets Follica Pics After Visiting Follica Office

[jc3303]

I don't have much faith in Follica on its own to be honest, they claim they can create 25 terminal and 75 velus hairs per cm^2 if I recall correctly. That's not really a massive cosmetic improvement imo, however if you combined it with replicel and turned all those hairs to full terminal immune hairs that's a cure for many.

 

[DrizzyD]

It's the same thing; I assume that timely application of their special sauce is critical, and if you miss it, you've turned your scalp into a giant scab for nothing. So it's a personalized app, with a personalized calendar with the specific dates on which you have to apply the cream.



They can't do that in the US; you might get away with that level of scamming in Mexico or China or wherever Histogen is running their game, but in the US, you are selling a medical procedure, you have to be absolutely clear about the expected outcome. Aside from the FDA, a US physician would never agree to perform the procedure if it was a scam, as they'd be sued and lose their license.

You may be right that it underperforms, but they won't be able to keep that a "secret" and still sell it commercially. It definitely grows hair.



Humans have somewhere between 125 to 200 hairs cm^2, so 25 hairs cm^2 is about 12.5% of a healthy head of hair - that's a lot of hair, and would correlate to more than a single Norwood (if you subscribe to the unciteable claim that hair loss isn't noticeable until 50% of your hair is already gone).

Good *** point about the FDA and efficacy, this has to work to some extent otherwise it could not be approved.

 

[jc3303]

Humans have somewhere between 125 to 200 hairs cm^2, so 25 hairs cm^2 is about 12.5% of a healthy head of hair - that's a lot of hair, and would correlate to more than a single Norwood (if you subscribe to the unciteable claim that hair loss isn't noticeable until 50% of your hair is already gone).

You have to keep in mind there was no indication how long it took to get to those results, if you have to get the treatment then follow the regimen for a year to get those results it's disappointing imo. Also that won't be regaining a norwood, it would just give you hair on your temples that looks thin. For people with crown thinning or DPA it has potential tho

 

[luiza]

Humans have somewhere between 125 to 200 hairs cm^2, so 25 hairs cm^2 is about 12.5% of a healthy head of hair - that's a lot of hair, and would correlate to more than a single Norwood (if you subscribe to the unciteable claim that hair loss isn't noticeable until 50% of your hair is already gone).

If that is true and if Histogen also works the way they say it does, then you have a cure. Get the vellus hair with Follica and then make them terminal with Histogen.

 

[jc3303]

You're absurd; there isn't a single person on the planet that would consider an additional 15,000-25,000 new hairs a disappointment just because it took a year to grow them. It takes a good six months to see good growth from a transplant, and hundreds of thousands of people have had those done.

If they where all terminal hairs yes that would be amazing, but the majority will be vellus hairs which don't give a huge cosmetic improvement. I'm just saying Follica isn't that amazing on it's own, combine it with replicel or histogen then it can be.

 

[That Guy]

Anyone have a link about the 25 hairs per cm squared?

 

[jc3303]

Anyone have a link about the 25 hairs per cm squared?

It was posted in one of the old follica threads, I'm too lazy to go and find it

 

[Drogedagh]

Minoxidil didn't do anything for me. Should I be excited for this treatment? Not sure.

 

[Gone]

If that tweet (the second one, not the one by the ABC doctor) is truthful, follica is also a maintenance method, which would mean it does not harm the hairs currently on your head as it seems could happen with dermabrasion, and as some people are concerned about.

 

[Tracksterderm]

oh-my-god-oh-my-god-oh-my-god-oh-my-god-oh-my-god-oh-my-god!!

Hope it's not just Cots and the gang pannicking from new emerging treatment being close and just want to capitalize on a decade of hype.

 

[Pacey123]

Don't understand the hype around this, how would that treatment possibly be good for people who have hair left on their scalps if that scalp gets brushed of? I'd be way too scared to do more harm than good.

But for those who are already a high Norwood, maybe that combined with Finasterid and minoxidil (if minoxidil is NOT their groth stimulant) could have some decent results.

 

[resu]

Healthy follicle are very low on the dermis, it would probably destroy the invisible to the naked eye vellus hair but it's not like it would make any difference.

 

[Stupidon]

In my eyes, Follica is nothing but smoke and mirrors. It's just smart marketing to keep their investors around.

Their technology is outdated by now anyways. They were working on their product back in 2006 when Aderans begun. A lot has happened since then and Follica didn't even bother to release the results of their last trial completed in 2012. They just dropped a line that they were able to create a brand new hair follicle!

I think Shiseido will be our saviour in 2019. We can all then either wait a few more years for Tsuji or just get a minor touch up hair transplant done and move on.

Actually they are genius, they are kind of selling you dermarolling + minoxidil. And people, who complain by the way all the time about photos and data, get excited by only a box.

 

[mr_robot]

Don't understand the hype around this, how would that treatment possibly be good for people who have hair left on their scalps if that scalp gets brushed of? I'd be way too scared to do more harm than good.

But for those who are already a high Norwood, maybe that combined with Finasterid and minoxidil (if minoxidil is NOT their groth stimulant) could have some decent results.

You'd be suprised about how deep your hair follicles actually are. I've suffered from seborrheic dermatitis where massive amounts of dried skin have come off my head, easy 2-3x the size of a cornflake and nearly as thick whilst hair was perfectly intact.

 

[KO1]

Yes, terminal hairs are deep. Otherwise Follica would not be doing this if it was going to be damaging existing hair. If you can think of it, chances are Follica has thought of it as well.

 

[mghrs]

what we know is that follica is capable of creating completely new follicle from skin.this was said by Dr. cotsarelis and repeated in the tweet and hashtag post. the question is how good these follicles are? if it isn't a spam, they have a solid product which can do great things. you can tell by the confidence they have in selling the product to Dermatologists before even publishing results. they are confident about their product. if it is a scam, then they just will do some heavy marketing and we can tell from the published results. the hashtag when mentioning propecia tells of a some confidence about their product's results. lets see

 

[Dench57]

I just emailed Fidia about any info on Follica's release date and they didn't have a clue, gave me some generic response bullshit. Fuckin useless

 

[cratusg]

I just emailed Fidia about any info on Follica's release date and they didn't have a clue, gave me some generic response bullshit. Fuckin useless

 

[Captain Rex]

I just emailed Fidia about any info on Follica's release date and they didn't have a clue, gave me some generic response bullshit. Fuckin useless

i am so confused what the f*** u said man YOU called fidia to know abt follica

 

[FoucaultII]

A dermatologist from New York by the name of Dhaval Bhanusali tweeted this picture after visiting follicas Boston office today and stated that he is excited for the future.

Hopefully this is a good sign

Was it your discover, Mr That Guy?
I doubt it.
Where is the credit for the one who found it out?
Pathetic!