EliasNJ's Story

EliasNJ

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Hello I'm 24 and still in the earlier stages of hairloss. I thought I would share my experience.

My hairline started to recede when I was 16. At the time it was very small in the temples. My hairloss then stabilized through out the rest of my teenage years. When I was going on 20 my hair went being from very dense, wavy to your average person's hair with receding slightly more in the temples. I was still an early norwood 1 so it wasn't enough to bother me. Over the course of the next four years I had a very slow hairloss in my hairline, but still it wasn't enough to bother me. When I graduated college last year at 23, my hairline still hadn't really recede that much. My hairline did take a small hit but I still had pretty thick hair. It was unnoticable the way I cut my hair short and combed forward.

About 3 months ago I took a pretty big hit. The temples receded further in very quickly and I went into a panic as most people do.

I did website work for a dermatologist about a year ago and he shamelessly tried to buy me into getting work done by him. When we talked about the layout of the norwood scales on his site, he happened to mention I was an early 2. Last week after my sudden notice of increased hairloss, I did a lot researching hairloss, mainly using this site. I went to see a dermatologist last week and he said I'm a beginning Norwood 3. That was a pretty big loss in only one year and made me depressed.

As for hairloss running in my family, my mother's side has great hair and my grandfather went out last year at 90 with a full set of hair. On my dad's side it can either be moderate or none at all. My dad is 53, he has a pretty receded hairline but no bald spot growing on the back. I assumed I had my fathers hair at 19 when my temples started to show. However, I figured I wasn't going to end up bald for a long time, no need to worry. Too bad my view changed about a month ago after the notice of sudden hairloss.

The dermatologist I consulted last week has a more negative view. He said with the hair loss I have at my age, I was destined to become bald. Suddenly I thought I might not even be as lucky as my father even though my hair texture is identical to his. For comparison, I decided to take a look at my dad around my age. The closest picture of age I saw of my father was when he was 29. He had a little bit worse hairline than I do now but I realized I had lost a lot in the last year and could easily end up worse in five years.

Anyhow, I got the Doctor to write me a perscription for Propecia to make sure my hairloss stabilizes. I'm okay with my hair as it is since it is thick enough that when I gel it, comb it forward, parting the middle out you can't see through to where my temples have receded. When my hair is not styled and especially when it is wet, you can certainly notice that I have a receding hairline.

On one hand, my current hairloss hasn't affected my chances at all with the opposite sex. In fact I think I do much better now at age 24 then I did when I was 17. I returned to my hometown this summer and found a lot of girls that had turned me down in high school, were now asking me if I had a girlfriend and wanted to hang out. The fact that I recently graduated college and making better money these days might have something to do with that though. Still I don't want to risk losing anymore hair for the sake of humiliation.

Here is my current formula:

Propecia 1x Day
Rogaine 5% 2x Day
Nizoral 3x Week

Unfortunately I started looking at pictures of myself in the past and been staring at my high school senior class picture. Looking at it carefully, I saw how I used to have nice thick, wavy hair back then. A couple of my friends in high school even complimented me over my hair. They said they wish they had thick wavy hair like I did. Ironically, one of them last year pointed out that I was starting to lose my hair.

I've been thinking about getting a hair transplant to restore my hairline completely. I figure I still will give the formula and year and see what results I get back. The dermatologist I talked to said I had terrific donor sites and one session should be enough fill in those temple areas. Two at the most would be needed. Unfortunately he is very expensive at $6400 a session. However, the end result photos I have seen from him are much better than other dermatologists I have contacted. Price is worth the results I get back.

Anyhow, I'll to give treatments a year and see what happens. If I am not happy with the results I'll consider a dermatologist slicing my head open. However, the areas I recently loss still have a lot of hairs there. Only now they are a mix of thin long hairs and small hairs at the surface. If those areas thicken back in I would easily go back to being a Norwood 2. I could be satisfied with that but looking back at the days of being a teenager I'm consider more drastic action.

I'll post some digital pictures of what I look like now when I return home next week. My biggest worries is this so called shedding period. Hopefully I won't take too big a hit. If I can thicken up the recently thinned out areas and even gain some extra hairline to what I lossed in the last year I'll be thrilled.

I'll try to keep you guys posted as I go.
 

DarklyCharming

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Hey EliasNJ

Just wanted to give you a shout out of support. I'm just getting started on a program myself and want to give it a year to see what happens for me too. We're both young and maybe catching it early on. Best of luck!

Regards,

DarklyCharming
 

EliasNJ

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Only about a week and a half into the regimen and only a few minor things.

My scalp is starting to flame up from the minoxidil, I guess Folligen is the best treatment for that. I don't want to give up minoxidil for the sake of my chances for regrowth. I already use Nizoral every 3rd day and it doesn't irritate as much when I apply on those days.

Biggest Problem, trying to relax and be patient. I can't understand why I am so worked up now even though I realized I was going slowly bald over the last 4 years and never worried. Moving back home and now seeing that stupid picture of my senior class photo on the parents wal, with twice as thick hair I have now and no noticable receding hairline keeps depressing me. Amazing how only a year later my hair diffused dramatically then slowly started retreating in the temples.

Some positives, I looked closely at the areas that receded and I see a ton of very small thin hairs just at the surface, does that give me a good chance of filling those areas back in my current regimen? If so more than half the area of those temples could be filled back.

A big positive, I seem to be adversely sexually affected with the Propecia as some people do. I know these people say there are cycles of ups and downs. Last night, although I may no longer look like I am 17, it felt like it again. Even if Propecia doesn't regrow or stop my hairloss I'd keep taking it just for the "side effects".

52 or so weeks to go.
 

mvpsoft

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T-Gel shampoo usually helps quite a bit with scalp irritation. Use it on the days you don't use Nizoral.
 

Trent

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about the hair transplant in a year, i would be careful getting one, especially if you are really early unless you know this guy personally or something. a lot of people complain that the hair transplant just made their hairline worse (because there is a "shock" period where your hair thins out due to the shock of the surgery) i only say this because you were so concerned about the shedding of propecia, and i've read a TON of stuff on the negatives of getting a hair transplant when you are really young, i had one all set up with one group i won't name them but they are on tv a lot, and they said i had a great donor site and was ready to rock, then i got a second opinon from one of the top dogs in hair transplant (Dr. haber) and he said he can't imagine any ethical doctor would perform a hair transplant on me in my stage. so i'm just saying be careful man! best of luck with your year of treatment, but my advice is that even if its not 100 percent in a year, it may be better to wait it out as much as you possibly can, remember the surgery leaves scars and if its done wrong, or you bald significantly later on in life, it will look quite silly if you run out of donor hairs and have a ton just in your front hairline!

sorry its so long, and i don't mean to be preachy, just want to inform you like my doctor did to me so that i didn't make any really rash decisions. good luck with your regimen!!
 

EliasNJ

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I appreciate the advice Trent8, I'm still new to learning about hairloss and need all the help I can get.

Since my hair is identical my fathers I've been using him as a gauge. I don't know because we share the exact same hair that we will bald the exact same way. It appears if I were to follow his path I lose a bit of hairline in my 20s, then stabilizes for the next 30 years and around 60 it all goes. If I were to get a hairtransplant a year later when I'm 25 to fully restore my hairline, your right on the account that I could end up silly looking later in life with an island hairline on a mostly bald scalp. Some things I consider though:

A. I would definately care less about my appearance at 60 than I do in my 20s.
B. Better drugs are always coming out and in ten years a drug that fully prevents further hairloss could be available. Or better surgery techniques could be invented by then.

However, your stories of hair transplants going bad is more incentive for me to stick to the regimen for a year even If I have to go through a chemo looking shed to get results. Hopefully from a year from now I can be satisfied with the results I have and no longer be considering a hair transplant that could possible make me end up worse. Thanks again for your advice.
 

Trent

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sup man, again good luck with your regimen. i know what you mean about your dad, me and my dad have the exact same hair too, and he said he lost some in his early twenties (like right when i am) but has had a full head of hair until his early fifties (its starting to go now) so i would hope i will have a similar pattern, though i think his hair was thicker than mine, i'm getting a more diffuse thinning going on than he did. oh well. anyway, about that hair transplant stuff, here's my doctor's website, if you're bored sometime check it out, it has some good advice on the legitimacy of hair transplant doctors, and definitely helped me realize that the docs that were going to do mine were in it for the money. http://www.universityhairtransplant.com/advice.htm lata
 

EliasNJ

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Already starting a small shed at only 3 weeks. Noticing a lot of hairs in the shower, temples have become slightly worse. Hopefully this is a good sign that I will see some regrowth. The only areas where I have hairloss are in the temples, but it is pretty bad.
 

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Elias,

I'd like to recommend Dr. Lee's Minoxidil to you. I also suffered from scalp irritation from Rogaine's Minoxidil, and I was inconsistent with the application of it because it took so damn long to dry. Dr. Lee's Minoxidil is basically the same price as Rogaine, dries faster, and causes less irritation because it contains less propene glycol.

http://www.minoxidil.com

Anyway, if you're seeing "new" (really, old) hairs coming back on your hairline, you are making progress. In my case, I had short, thin hairs on my hairline that never greww past a certain length. But as I got deeper into my regimen, some of those hairs returned to normal. It was a good feeling. 26 months later I'm still going strong. I recall sitting at the first lord of the rings film thinking I'd be bald by the time the third was released. However, my regimen really saved my hair.

All in all, keep in mind that the hair line is the toughest spot to regrow and you need to be patient with it. Get a hobby, hit the gym....just be consistent with the treatments and don't count hairs. You'll be fine.
 

EliasNJ

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Coming up on the third month mark since battling hairloss...
DOING GREAT!

Today my mother saw me and made a comment that my hair certainly is starting to look thicker. I was thrilled to hear that because I was taking notice myself. The last two-three weeks I have been staring at my hair in the mirror and thinking that my hair is starting to look pretty thick again. O wasn't sure if it was just my imagination or because my hair is slightly longer then it was when I started.

Three months ago the hair on top of my head looked pretty flimsy and the back of my head started to feel thin. I took a look at the back of my head in the mirror today and the penny size diffused patch above my cowlick was completely gone. The back of my head was never that much of a concern. It is nice though that it has already come back nicely like the dermatologist said it should when he perscribed Propecia.

The rest of my hair has thickened up as well. I combed my hair back today and it layered and stacked up like Wayne Newton hair. I'd say it is about 85% of how thick it was when I was 17. The only catch is that my hairline hasn't moved forward at all. No new regrowth in front of my hairline at all, but I think the edges of my hairline have regrown healthy hairs. I swear that I see small thick healthy hairs coming at of my scalp right at my hairline, maybe once those have grown a bit hairs further in my temple will start to grow.

Overall, happy camper and my hairline certainly hasn't gotten any worse in three months. My main goal was to get atleast some regrowth in my ever widening temples and have my hairline back to where it was about 2 years ago. I realize I am still early in my treatment and there is still plenty of time for improvement. I'm happy with how my much healthier and thicker my hair has become. People are taking notice so it isn't my imagination. If only I can get a better hairline shape and recover most of what I have lost over the last year.

I do have photos but I am waiting until month six to pull them out for comparisons. I'll post them at the six month mark.
 

Petchsky

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Look forward to the photos. 3 months and progress thats pretty damn good and i dont doubt your hairline will move forward a little. Congrats
 
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