Estrogen and DHT in the Prostate and ...the Scalp?

[wookster]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benign_prostatic_hyperplasia

There is growing evidence that estrogens play a role in the etiology of BPH.

This is based on the fact that BPH occurs when men generally have elevated estrogen levels and relatively reduced free testosterone levels, and when prostate tissue becomes more sensitive to estrogens and less responsive to DHT.

Cells taken from the prostates of men who have BPH have been shown to grow in response to high estradiol levels with low androgens present. Estrogens may render cells more susceptible to the action of DHT.

 

[Bryan]

Yeah, and we all know how strikingly similar the prostate and the hair follicle are in every regard; right, wookster? I mean, they obviously must behave in IDENTICAL fashion, right?

Here's your next homework assignment: stick your fingers up your butt and massage your prostate, and let us know if you get the same effect as when you massage your scalp. Maybe that'll keep you off the street for a while.

 

[wookster]

Yeah, and we all know how strikingly similar the prostate and the hair follicle are in every regard; right, wookster? I mean, they obviously must behave in IDENTICAL fashion, right?

Here's your next homework assignment: stick your fingers up your butt and massage your prostate, and let us know if you get the same effect as when you massage your scalp. Maybe that'll keep you off the street for a while.

:freaked2: :dropmouth: :freaked2:


http://www.baldingblog.com/2009/04/28/injecting-estrogen-into-the-scalp/

While it is a creative approach, estrogen injected superficially into the scalp with a Dermaroller can not add value nor prevent balding. I have seen some effects of such injections by dermatologists in the “old daysâ€￾ and what happened is that they lose hair at the injection sites. The end result is that some came to see me about their hair loss.

 

[OverMachoGrande]

M.P.B. is a symptom of andropause (low testosterone, high estrogen and D.H.T.)!
Andropause is happening sooner and sooner to each new generation...call it what you want...I call it eugenics!

The Disappearing Male: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=53689

 

[Jokerman]

M.P.B. is a symptom of andropause (low testosterone, high estrogen and D.H.T.)!

So my male pattern baldness, oily skin, fierce libido and the body hair on my back, shoulders, *** and every other god fordaken place was actually due to low testosterone and high estrogen?

:shakehead:

 

[Bryan]

M.P.B. is a symptom of andropause (low testosterone, high estrogen and D.H.T.)!

Really? What about the teenagers who come on this and other hairloss forums and complain about male pattern baldness? Are they suffering from "andropause"? What about stumptailed macaques, who start balding consistently after puberty (you can set your watch by it)? Do they also have andropause?

 

[OverMachoGrande]

M.P.B. is a symptom of andropause (low testosterone, high estrogen and D.H.T.)!

Really? What about the teenagers who come on this and other hairloss forums and complain about male pattern baldness? Are they suffering from "andropause"? What about stumptailed macaques, who start balding consistently after puberty (you can set your watch by it)? Do they also have andropause?

Baldness is happening faster and faster with each new generation, testosterone levels are decreasing along with sperm counts. Males are becoming weaker and weaker due to something in the environment, maybe plastic water bottles that contain Bisphenol-A, which mimics estrogen. Did you watch The Disappearing Male? Does that not tell us something?

 

[elvis123]

Bryan are you mad you didn't figure this out earlier and now you just a bald loser who is just lashing out at the community....???

because honestly, if YOUR theories were 100% right on hair loss, wouldn't you have a full head of hair right now?

times change, things change, theories change, scientists gain more knowledge, what may have been thought as correct 10 years ago may not be the same now.....

and i thought you were smart... :dunno:

 

[elvis123]

Yeah, and we all know how strikingly similar the prostate and the hair follicle are in every regard; right, wookster? I mean, they obviously must behave in IDENTICAL fashion, right?

Here's your next homework assignment: stick your fingers up your butt and massage your prostate, and let us know if you get the same effect as when you massage your scalp. Maybe that'll keep you off the street for a while.

Oh yea one more thing tard.....

you know that finasteride was originally prescribed as a prostate drug right?

Does finasteride work for hair loss?

Here's your next homework assignment: stick your fingers up your ***, and try to gather enough sh*t on your finger to smear on your bald spots. Keep doing that until your spots are all covered. THERE'S YOUR HAIR LOSS CURE BIATCH hahahahaa

 

[wookster]

M.P.B. is a symptom of andropause (low testosterone, high estrogen and D.H.T.)!

So my male pattern baldness, oily skin, fierce libido and the body hair on my back, shoulders, *** and every other god fordaken place was actually due to low testosterone and high estrogen?

:shakehead:

The hypothesis is that estrogen and DHT together somehow increase sensititivty of cells to DHT, also causing more body hair, more balding, and paradoxically flabby man-breasts, higher body fat and reduced musculature.

 

[Petchsky]

Elvis - Please stop baiting Bryan, one post should be enough to insult him, let alone two in a row.

 

[ali777]

Baldness is happening faster and faster with each new generation, testosterone levels are decreasing along with sperm counts. Males are becoming weaker and weaker due to something in the environment, maybe plastic water bottles that contain Bisphenol-A, which mimics estrogen. Did you watch The Disappearing Male? Does that not tell us something?

Statistics show that girls start puberty much younger now than before, and it is generally assumed the reason behind the fast growth is the protein rich diet. Just look around you and compare the average height of the teenagers and the 50-60yos, there is a massive difference.

So you are right, our bodies enter puberty earlier and our sex hormones get to work faster too. It's not a surprise that we bald earlier too...

As for the link between estrogen and balding, you aren't being serious, are you???

 

[ali777]

Here's your next homework assignment: stick your fingers up your butt and massage your prostate, and let us know if you get the same effect as when you massage your scalp. Maybe that'll keep you off the street for a while.

prostate massage vs stroking the head :whistle: ???

You shouldn't give him such ideas! Discovering the joys of prostate massage would keep anyone off the streets.

 

[Bryan]

M.P.B. is a symptom of andropause (low testosterone, high estrogen and D.H.T.)!

Really? What about the teenagers who come on this and other hairloss forums and complain about male pattern baldness? Are they suffering from "andropause"? What about stumptailed macaques, who start balding consistently after puberty (you can set your watch by it)? Do they also have andropause?

Baldness is happening faster and faster with each new generation, testosterone levels are decreasing along with sperm counts. Males are becoming weaker and weaker due to something in the environment, maybe plastic water bottles that contain Bisphenol-A, which mimics estrogen. Did you watch The Disappearing Male? Does that not tell us something?

Answer the questions that I asked you, not questions that I DIDN'T ask you.

 

[Bryan]

Oh yea one more thing tard.....

you know that finasteride was originally prescribed as a prostate drug right?

Yes.

Does finasteride work for hair loss?

Yes.

So what's your point with those questions?

 

[Bryan]

The hypothesis is that estrogen and DHT together somehow increase sensititivty of cells to DHT, also causing more body hair, more balding, and paradoxically flabby man-breasts, higher body fat and reduced musculature.

One can come up with just about any hypothesis he wants. Here's another one for you: male pattern baldness is caused by a leprechaun that lives in the bottom of my garden. But there is no scientific evidence at all for either the "Leprechaun Theory" or the "Estrogen Theory" of balding.

 

[Jokerman]

he hypothesis is that estrogen and DHT together somehow increase sensititivty of cells to DHT, also causing more body hair, more balding, and paradoxically flabby man-breasts, higher body fat and reduced musculature.

I'm have none of that.

 

[Thickandthin]

MisterE you are reaching the limits now. Shut the f*ck up.
Your theories are complete BS. How the f*ck can you say that hairloss is caused by andropause when the WHOLE scientific community thinks (and proved) the opposite ?
KEEP YOUR f****ing MOUTH CLOSE
You think I reached my andropause at 21 ? That my increase in bodyhair, my hairlosss and my muscle gain at the same time were caused by estrogens ? a**hole.

No joke. The fact that there are some poor unfortunate souls on here who started balding at 13, 14, 15 years old should be evidence alone that these theories are false.

 

[icdalite]

Yeah, and we all know how strikingly similar the prostate and the hair follicle are in every regard; right, wookster? I mean, they obviously must behave in IDENTICAL fashion, right?

Here's your next homework assignment: stick your fingers up your butt and massage your prostate, and let us know if you get the same effect as when you massage your scalp. Maybe that'll keep you off the street for a while.

Oh yea one more thing tard.....

you know that finasteride was originally prescribed as a prostate drug right?

Does finasteride work for hair loss?

Here's your next homework assignment: stick your fingers up your ***, and try to gather enough sh*t on your finger to smear on your bald spots. Keep doing that until your spots are all covered. THERE'S YOUR HAIR LOSS CURE BIATCH hahahahaa

Elvis, these type of comments are totally unwarranted and unacceptable......naaaat LOL

 

[OverMachoGrande]

No joke. The fact that there are some poor unfortunate souls on here who started balding at 13, 14, 15 years old should be evidence alone that these theories are false.

Andropause is happening sooner and sooner with each new generation. Young girls are also entering puberty faster and faster. The documentary claims that testosterone levels are at an all time low. If testosterone levels are at an all time low, what hormones are high or at normal levels... (Drum roll please)...Estrogen and D.H.T. Bisphenol A is a synthetic chemical that mimics estrogen. Bisphenol A is found in plastics, soda cans, canned food. There is proof that this chemical leeches into food that we eat. Every time we drink from a can, or eat canned food or drink water from plastic water bottles...we are consuming the sex hormone estrogen. Watch the video below and tell me estrogen is not a problem.

Bisphenol A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3_cYZKksvI