Estrogen Blockers Fixed My Finasteride Side Effects.

[YoMrWhite]

I dont know why more people dont know about this but Finasteride SHOULD be taken with estrogen blockers. I take arimidex 1 mg per week (splitting the pill in half). It got rid of all my side effects.

It is already known that Finasteride increases your estrogen, and the symptoms of high estrogen are pretty much the same like the finasteride ones. (Low libiod, erectile dysfunction, tiredness, gyno ect. )

Take your medication! Hopefully this helps someone.

 

[whatevr]

What little poor regrowth people usually get on Finasteride is mostly due to the estrogen increase. Way to make a shitty drug even worse, and now you're taking two drugs and exposing yourself to the risks of both and taxing your liver double. I don't think that' s a good strategy.

 

[INT]

You are completely right, the best thing for your body to deal with a potentially dangerous drug is to counteract the noticeable side effects with another potentially dangerous drug. DUH!

 

[northpole1]

You cant defend yourself from Propecia side effects.If you experience sides,then discontinue is your only option.Arimidex will do great job,yes,but taking it long term is not good idea.However, anastrozole reduces circulating estrogen, and low estradiol levels are associated with decreased bone mineral density (BMD) and increased fracture risk. It is therefore important to understand the effects of long-term aromatase inhibitor therapy on BMD.

 

[YoMrWhite]

What little poor regrowth people usually get on Finasteride is mostly due to the estrogen increase. Way to make a shitty drug even worse, and now you're taking two drugs and exposing yourself to the risks of both and taxing your liver double. I don't think that' s a good strategy.

Lol at poor regrowth. I kept all of my hair and Im still a NW1-2. If it wasnt for finasteride I would have been a NW5-6 by now. Finasteride works great if you start it early. And its either taking the pills or accepting hair loss.

You are completely right, the best thing for your body to deal with a potentially dangerous drug is to counteract the noticeable side effects with another potentially dangerous drug. DUH!

Yeah it is. Taking 1mg per week is hardly a large dose. In fact its even more DANGEROUS to let your estrogen levels remain HIGH. So taking a pill to lower it is much better. I would actually argue that most males should check their estrogen levels even if they are not on Finasteride seeing as there is an excess of it in food, water ect.

You cant defend yourself from Propecia side effects.If you experience sides,then discontinue is your only option.Arimidex will do great job,yes,but taking it long term is not good idea.However, anastrozole reduces circulating estrogen, and low estradiol levels are associated with decreased bone mineral density (BMD) and increased fracture risk. It is therefore important to understand the effects of long-term aromatase inhibitor therapy on BMD.

Yes LOW levels of estradiol. You want to keep them at normal levels. It wont cause any BMD then. 1 mg per week is not enough to cause this. The studies you are referring to are on women with cancer who take LARGE DAILY doses. Its not even comparable. Besides these pills are used by bodybuilders as well and they take it for decades and are still healthy.

And discontinuing propecia is NOT an option. I want my hair, but I dont wanna live with the side effects either!

 

[INT]

Lol at poor regrowth. I kept all of my hair and Im still a NW1-2. If it wasnt for finasteride I would have been a NW5-6 by now. Finasteride works great if you start it early. And its either taking the pills or accepting hair loss.


Yeah it is. Taking 1mg per week is hardly a large dose. In fact its even more DANGEROUS to let your estrogen levels remain HIGH. So taking a pill to lower it is much better. I would actually argue that most males should check their estrogen levels even if they are not on Finasteride seeing as there is an excess of it in food, water ect.



Yes LOW levels of estradiol. You want to keep them at normal levels. It wont cause any BMD then. 1 mg per week is not enough to cause this. The studies you are referring to are on women with cancer who take LARGE DAILY doses. Its not even comparable. Besides these pills are used by bodybuilders as well and they take it for decades and are still healthy.

And discontinuing propecia is NOT an option. I want my hair, but I dont wanna live with the side effects either!

This was was so full of bro science and confirmation bias that I don't even know where to begin. Let me just say that finasteride is a lot more complex than a drug that inhibits one hormone and increases another (neither is arimidix). I guess you have never heard about neurosteroids right?

Many people have tried this approach. I have never seen long term success in these cases. People either:

- have increased hair loss
- still have sides or get different sides

If you have any respect for your body I would look into alternative treatments. There are many options nowadays if you are open to looking further than the classic 'go finasteride or go bald' battle cry.

 

[AnxiousAndy]

Dude estrogen is your hairs best friend, don't split them up.

 

[YoMrWhite]

This was was so full of bro science and confirmation bias that I don't even know where to begin. Let me just say that finasteride is a lot more complex than a drug that inhibits one hormone and increases another (neither is arimidix). I guess you have never heard about neurosteroids right?

Many people have tried this approach. I have never seen long term success in these cases. People either:

- have increased hair loss
- still have sides or get different sides

If you have any respect for your body I would look into alternative treatments. There are many options nowadays if you are open to looking further than the classic 'go finasteride or go bald' battle cry.

Alternative treatments? How are those wife tales working out for you. I’m assuming you have a full head of hair? As it’s standing I have a NW1-2 with no sides. I also don’t see how arimidex would increase hair loss when DHT is still being blocked with finasteride. It’s working for me and I’ve been on it for months 1 mg per week.

If there were any other options that actually worked I would try it. But there isn’t anything, and you know it.

Dude estrogen is your hairs best friend, don't split them up.

Well I don’t want gyno and ED.

 

[AnxiousAndy]

Alternative treatments? How are those wife tales working out for you. I’m assuming you have a full head of hair? As it’s standing I have a NW1-2 with no sides. I also don’t see how arimidex would increase hair loss when DHT is still being blocked with finasteride. It’s working for me and I’ve been on it for months 1 mg per week.

If there were any other options that actually worked I would try it. But there isn’t anything, and you know it.


Well I don’t want gyno and ED.

Because gyno and ED are guaranteed from using finasteride, right?

 

[INT]

Alternative treatments? How are those wife tales working out for you. I’m assuming you have a full head of hair? As it’s standing I have a NW1-2 with no sides. I also don’t see how arimidex would increase hair loss when DHT is still being blocked with finasteride. It’s working for me and I’ve been on it for months 1 mg per week.

If there were any other options that actually worked I would try it. But there isn’t anything, and you know it.

Ever heard of minoxidil or RU? Just to name 2...

I am currently on a regimen of Zix and hydrocortisone with dermarolling once every 2 weeks and I am maintaining as well at an Norwood II. You don't see how arimidex could increase hair loss? What do you think happens with your other hormones once it can no longer be converted into estrogen? Hint: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9759700

 

[Feelsbadman]

How much does estrogen increase while on finasteride

 

[Timii]

How much does estrogen increase while on finasteride

15 %

 

[Timii]

Ever heard of minoxidil or RU? Just to name 2...

I am currently on a regimen of Zix and hydrocortisone with dermarolling once every 2 weeks and I am maintaining as well at an Norwood II. You don't see how arimidex could increase hair loss? What do you think happens with your other hormones once it can no longer be converted into estrogen? Hint: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9759700

What is hydrocortisone supposed to do against hair loss?

 

[YoMrWhite]

Because gyno and ED are guaranteed from using finasteride, right?

No. But I got both those side effects. I had extremely elevated estrogen and I literally wanted to kill myself. I had constant symptoms similar to PMS and it was absolutely terrible.

Ever heard of minoxidil or RU? Just to name 2...

I am currently on a regimen of Zix and hydrocortisone with dermarolling once every 2 weeks and I am maintaining as well at an Norwood II. You don't see how arimidex could increase hair loss? What do you think happens with your other hormones once it can no longer be converted into estrogen? Hint: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9759700

Yes but rogaine gives you dark circles + wrinkles. And also it is not nearly as effective as finasteride. It doesn’t even work on the temples.

I’ve heard about RU. But it’s hard for me to just change something that works. I’m scared that if I change I’ll lose my hair and I’ll regret it. It’s a though situstaiton. Also RU is a bit complicated I read that sometimes you can get a good batch and sometimes a bad. So even if it works it might end up f*****g up cause you received a bad one.

My hair loss was/is extremely aggressive. It started at 18 with diffuse hair loss. I panicked and I took the only thing that was a safe bet. Perhaps yours is less aggressive and that’s why you can maintain it with hydrocortisone and zix? I haven’t heard abut those


Also that study they took 1 mg arimidex per day. That would lead to an almost 100% decease in estrogen - which would then of course lead to increased Test and DHT. Taking it once per week won’t decresse it that much, only control it. I’m gonna get my test and estrogen levels tested soon and then I’ll actually find out if they are in the normal range. Also if it happens that my DHT is increased I’ll jump on dutasteride and problem solved.

How much does estrogen increase while on finasteride

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It depends on person to person. Mine was critically high. I can’t tell you in precentage since I don’t know what my original levels were.