Exacty when is DHT formed?

[zapper]

It`s a known fact that DHT is produced from Testosterone by 5-alpha-reductase process.

Some claim that just after an ejaculation, the serum testosterone is converted into DHT and deposited over the scalp.

Some say that DHT is formed during the act of masturbation itself, even before any form of ejaculation occurs.

Some say that DHT is formed and deposited over the scalp even if there was an accidental erection.

So, i`m quite confused... It may seem silly, but i`d really like to know when exactly is DHT formed so that i can learn to control and manage my activities, which may be a responsible factor for my hair loss.

I`ve seen a lot of people, especially teenage kids and young adults saying that sexual activities do not have any connection to hair loss, which i feel could be untrue, after enough research and bitter personal experiences... However, if there is strong evidence suggesting something, it can change the outlook for many.

Please feel free to share your thoughts.

 

[vauxall]

Some claim that just after an ejaculation, the serum testosterone is converted into DHT and deposited over the scalp.

Some say that DHT is formed during the act of masturbation itself, even before any form of ejaculation occurs.

Some say that DHT is formed and deposited over the scalp even if there was an accidental erection.

Some have an imaginary friend and call him God and even claim to speak to him every day.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

You form DHT regardless of if you masturbate

It has no bearing on hair loss, people test this all the time and then keep losing hair and stop

Get on Finasteride.

 

[Hoppi]

Yeah it's produced mostly at the follicle, but also has a presence in the blood. It primarily is made in the prostate, but apparently remains in there.I have heard a number of reported success stories from abstaining from masturbation, I believe because it releases prolactin which causes inflammation. I am unsure how it effects sex hormones. Those who engage in sexual activity of any kind to orgasm particularly frequently (more than once or twice a day) may notice improvement I think

 

[slipy]

It's funny how i lost a lot of hair overnight when i used to ejaculate a lot. Then i read about the possible connection between it and hair loss, got really scared and stopped masterbating more than once a week. Now i still have the same Norwood 2,5 i had allmost 2 years ago and im not using any meds. Surely i should be more advanced by now. :dunno:

also look at the p**rn stars. It seems like every other of those guys has hair loss. it would be normal if they were 60 year old's but p**rn stars are mainly young guys.

 

[Brains Expel Hair]

Masturbation's effect on DHT is microscopic at best. In all seriousness though, DHT is formed when you covet thy neighbor.

 

[Hoppi]

It's funny how i lost a lot of hair overnight when i used to ejaculate a lot. Then i read about the possible connection between it and hair loss, got really scared and stopped masterbating more than once a week. Now i still have the same Norwood 2,5 i had allmost 2 years ago and im not using any meds. Surely i should be more advanced by now. :dunno:

also look at the p**rn stars. It seems like every other of those guys has hair loss. it would be normal if they were 60 year old's but p**rn stars are mainly young guys.

I wonder - if you were to regrow hair with stimulants, would it remain even after treatment stopped due to lower levels of inflammation! Maybe

 

[mpbsux20]

Those who engage in sexual activity of any kind to orgasm particularly frequently (more than once or twice a day) may notice improvement I think

:salut: :gay2:

I have noticed men with low sex drive experience balding.

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

It's funny how i lost a lot of hair overnight when i used to ejaculate a lot. Then i read about the possible connection between it and hair loss, got really scared and stopped masterbating more than once a week. Now i still have the same Norwood 2,5 i had allmost 2 years ago and im not using any meds. Surely i should be more advanced by now. :dunno:

also look at the p**rn stars. It seems like every other of those guys has hair loss. it would be normal if they were 60 year old's but p**rn stars are mainly young guys.

No, chances are Norwood 2.5 is where your hairline is going to stop receding regardless of if you are balding or not and regardless of if you're masturbating or not.

 

[slipy]

yeah, i will probably go bald anyway. I still have itching but my hair hasn't gotten any worse after all this time. I even went 2 months without ejaculating once about a year ago. Yes, i was that desperate.

i still wonder about those adult actors. If sexual activity has no effect whatsoever then maybe there are so many balding guys in p**rn because balding men are looking for an easy chance to get laid? :dunno:

 

[Brains Expel Hair]

Why are there so many balding men on the street? Is everyone I pass by on the sidewalk getting laid a bunch more than me? I'm assuming you don't have any actual statistics as to the % of balding porno actors, so pretty much you're probably just noticing the bald ones more (hey he is balding too, but he gets to f*** all these hot chicks, not fair!).

If masturbation or ejaculation has anything to do with hair loss, it's not through DHT.

 

[slipy]

(hey he is balding too, but he gets to f*ck all these hot chicks, not fair!)

I've never really thought about it this way. Porno chicks get paid for having sex, they don't have to find those bald dudes attractive and they probably don't. I'd hate to screw someone who thinks i'm ugly.

as for many balding man walking the streets- im not sure what it's like where you live, but when i go out the balding guys i see are in minority compared to guys with full heads of hair. In p**rn its more like 50/50 (my rough estimation).

 

[mpbsux20]

You dont know what kinda crap they would be putting in their bodies to stay jacked and make their dicks work. :shakehead:

 

[Hoppi]

Those who engage in sexual activity of any kind to orgasm particularly frequently (more than once or twice a day) may notice improvement I think

:salut: :gay2:

I have noticed men with low sex drive experience balding.

which of course PROVES there is no connection!

Wow, scientific perfection xD

 

[mpbsux20]

Did I say it is scientific perfection ? I said men can go bald at the same rate even if they have no sex drive.

How do you know doing "it" 2-3 times a day would help and doing it more than that would be harmful to your hair ? Lets face it...Whatever you have said is pure B.S. as well. :roll:

So there is no point in talking about the same f*****g issue over and over again when we know that it doesn't help you either way.I'd say let people do the damn thing whenever they want to.Your body is asking you to do it.Would you listen to your body or to some random claims made my people on the internet ?

Do whatever you want,apply snake oils,pop in sugar pills....Nobody cares man.If you think they are working,post some pictures and then recommend your "cures" to people who really suffer from this.

 

[Hoppi]

(edited out) sorry, just put something a bit blunt, I was in a little bit of a bad mood about something unrelated lol

Erm, no point in arguing man, it's a complicated thing lol, we could probably be here for a while xD

 

[TheGrayMan2001]

There's a logical reason masturbation has no bearing on hair loss.

The undisputed facts:

1) Follicles are sensitive to DHT in varying degrees of men and at varying times throughout your life

2) The amount of DHT lowered can prevent hairloss by not affecting the sensitive follicles (This is dependent on how sensitive follicles are in part 1)


Masturbation has no bearing on how sensitive your follicles are. That is genetically pre-determined at birth. Also, given that you're relatively healthy, the amount of DHT your produce is more or less genetically pre-determined at birth. You can lower this amount by using finasteride.

There is no scientific testing to be done, it works out logically just by knowing the facts.

 

[mpbsux20]

(edited out) sorry, just put something a bit blunt, I was in a little bit of a bad mood about something unrelated lol

Erm, no point in arguing man, it's a complicated thing lol, we could probably be here for a while xD

Yeah we could probably keep going back and forth on this one and I feel this theory is just ain't worth it.Most balding men who do try abstinence continue going bald and eventually try the big3.

 

[Hoppi]

I really meant something more along the lines of "agreeing to disagree"!

 

[Brains Expel Hair]

There's a logical reason masturbation has no bearing on hair loss.

The undisputed facts:

1) Follicles are sensitive to DHT in varying degrees of men and at varying times throughout your life

2) The amount of DHT lowered can prevent hairloss by not affecting the sensitive follicles (This is dependent on how sensitive follicles are in part 1)


Masturbation has no bearing on how sensitive your follicles are. That is genetically pre-determined at birth. Also, given that you're relatively healthy, the amount of DHT your produce is more or less genetically pre-determined at birth. You can lower this amount by using finasteride.

There is no scientific testing to be done, it works out logically just by knowing the facts.

You're still missing how facts 1 and 2 tie in to masturbation at all. So logically, you're not making any logical sense.

In order to complete this you would need:
3) Masturbation causes significant long term changes in DHT levels. (true)

However:
4) Masturbation can affect other hormones which may connect to some forms of hair loss. (probable, but not substantiated)