Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

monehair

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you just proved our point, estrogen does not feminize anyone post puberty
For the billionth time: estrogen does feminize you, but not enough to present as a woman, only to look weird as a man.

I am just trying to assess how this "weirdness" can be mitigated and what the ratio is between luck and effort.
 

Adri23

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It doesn't feminize anything. I know from experience that estrogen changes absolutely nothing about your face. It's basically just a testosterone blocker that prevents further masculinization and gives you manboobs. It's an uncontrolled substance and easy to get everywhere because of how useless it is, its just a glorified skincare/hair loss supplement.
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Adri23

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"jawmogs" -> That's not something you envy though I guess
I already have a chad jawline because I have ver low body fat% even on face, but that person's jaw is that big that you can see it even with facial fat. Mine gets more rounded when I gain fat but that person can't even hide the jawline
 

exwhyyou

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The one secret nobody has answered yet is how to keep a reasonably masculine face on HRT and prevent becoming a strong "butch lesbian" or an uncanny man. I cannot imagine your faces would look manly if you have started HRT in early twenties.
manly face is so ugly idc every good looking guy is some degree of feminine
 

exwhyyou

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im about to go so crazy on my hair again like back when i was first afraid of balding.... huge vitamin stack and hopefully i can maintain perfect diet. i wanna see how far i can take this and just how good my hair can get. been relying mostly on the hrt regimen since i started which is obviously best, but i think theres still some more juice i can squeeze.
 

Almas_NW0

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If you simply castrate yourself, your face will not feminize, although the hair growth will be worse. Estradiol is not just a blocker, it acts on the estradiol receptors and feminizes you. Unfortunately, I do not have photos of my face before estradiol (I have 2.5 months), but after 5 months I saw noticeable changes in my face. The fat tissue on the face is redistributed, the eyes become more open, and your appearance is more harmless and childish. I like androgyny, so I do not mind such changes.
 

sg2000

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If you simply castrate yourself, your face will not feminize, although the hair growth will be worse. Estradiol is not just a blocker, it acts on the estradiol receptors and feminizes you. Unfortunately, I do not have photos of my face before estradiol (I have 2.5 months), but after 5 months I saw noticeable changes in my face. The fat tissue on the face is redistributed, the eyes become more open, and your appearance is more harmless and childish. I like androgyny, so I do not mind such changes.

how about your thighs?Did you lose fat on it?
 

sg2000

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do you guys think that if I only use dutasteride e2 and oral minoxidil will be enough to have hair benefits and less body changes?
 

bsmith

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do you guys think that if I only use dutasteride e2 and oral minoxidil will be enough to have hair benefits and less body changes?
Dustasteride is alright to take if you are female or transgender. In the United States high amounts of the drug is used for
sex change operations. The half life is very long.
 

sg2000

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Dustasteride is alright to take if you are female or transgender. In the United States high amounts of the drug is used for
sex change operations. The half life is very long.
im not transgender neither gay or have any gender dismrphia.Wow i dint know about it?Doses like 5 mg and up?
 

exwhyyou

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Dustasteride is alright to take if you are female or transgender. In the United States high amounts of the drug is used for
sex change operations. The half life is very long.
ace frehley should have taken estrogen. he kept his boyish good looks even into the 90s but alcoholism + testosterone is too much for anyone to withhold. i reckon he could have been bloody hott on e2 esp with his early 80s hair
 

exwhyyou

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paul stanley on the other hand, it was over for even in the first years of kiss. he is absolutely agp however and LOVED displaying his hairy man chest while acting and sounding feminine. i bet you kiss would have gotten nowhere without ace’s pretty look and keen style
 

losingbattle88

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Shedding got a bit better, no regrowth whatsoever
Personally shedding means nothing, positive or negative for me. I barely shed anything on dutasteride and oral min it was insane actually but hair got nuked fast as hell anyways. You always need estradiol while on dutasteride or finasteride or say bye bye hair. The solo finasteride and dutasteride results you see on reddit are all fake. Same with min. It simply doesnt work. Doctors should prescribe estradiol with finasteride. That should be the new standard treatment. If a man is dead serious about keeping his hair that is.
 
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sg2000

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Personally shedding means nothing, positive or negative for me. I barely shed anything on dutasteride and oral min it was insane actually but hair got nuked fast as hell anyways. You always need estradiol while on dutasteride or finasteride or say bye bye hair. The solo finasteride and dutasteride results you see on reddit are all fake. Same with min. It simply doesnt work. Doctors should prescribe estradiol with finasteride. That should be the new standard treatment. If a man is dead serious about keeping his hair that is.
lol bro did you become a new kind of troll too?
 

exwhyyou

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There are a few real before and afters but they're all using estradiol and Bica and they're either paid to advertise finasteride/dutasteride or too ashamed to admit they're on hrt. I guess the hair transplant industry would be dead if everyone knew that you'll need hrt in order to keep your hair after a transplant so they're paying people to make these fake posts. Sad.
we have to accept that this thread, in its trolly, fucked up glory….. is already single handedly changing the way men cope and treat androgenetic alopecia. i saw a semi viral tweet on twitter last night from a mtf saying they knew 3 cis men on estrogen solely for hair. this is becoming a thing and we are the reason
 
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