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hahahamyhairisdead

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can u link his posts or pm me them?

I know that if person a used: 75mg bicalutamide, 60mg raloxifine
but person b used: 75mg bicalutamide, 60mg raloxifine, 25mg cpa

the person a would have better results because cpa allows for always a certain degree of ar signaling since its a partial agonist

I tried to find him but I couldn't. Sorry =_=
It's too difficult...
 

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So @DHTcel it is pointless to take CPA with Estrogen for hair because it is an AR agonist? Should I just wait for my Bicalutamide to arrive and take it with an AR inhibitor and estrogen ? Or would it be benificial to keep taking the CPA?

Continue taking CPA until your bicalutamide arrives. It will create a better base for you to start; starting with castration-level T and female ranges of E is ideal.
 

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So @DHTcel it is pointless to take CPA with Estrogen for hair because it is an AR agonist? Should I just wait for my Bicalutamide to arrive and take it with an AR inhibitor and estrogen ? Or would it be benificial to keep taking the CPA?
take estradiol with bicalutamide, DONT take cpa or spironolactone with them. also if u want u can add finasteride or dutasteride

Continue taking CPA until your bicalutamide arrives. It will create a better base for you to start; starting with castration-level T and female ranges of E is ideal.
try to taper off of cpa if u are taking more than 25mg currently, in prostate cancer they observed at doses of 100-300mg, there was PSA flares after discontinuing the drug immediately. Or just drop CPA after 1 week of staying on bicalutamide, thats my recommendation.
 

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Ok here is my regimen:

Microneedling with derminator twice weekly
A combination of RU and CB 3 times daily. I find the more you do these the better.
Minoxidil twice daily
dutasteride 0.5 daily
Oral minoxidil 5mg
Retin A for absorption
Ordinary- hair density serum


I just bought bicalutamide and raflo Incase of b**ch tits. I’ll wait for dhtcel and others to drop more knowledge before I use them though. Just want them on hand and I’ve got pretty damn good hair and hairline as it is.
That's good. Now you might want to revisit primary school and learn how to speak, write - basically how to communicate well and not be a douchebag.

(we've talked before as well, but Iirc you're the first person whole reply/comment I've disliked)
 

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Now one strange thing I've noticed: I've more sand like very smalls balls on my scalp. (To elaborate more, they were always there since I started losing hair, in form of seborrhoeic flakes.)
@bridgeburn @Ikarus @DHTcel @Father_of_Shiseido @anyone
That had happened to me as well. But at that time, my hair condition was improving. I used to think that they (the tiny white bulge) are dead, shrunken hair follicles though, I never knew what it was.
 
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This thread is highly important, call us tannies if you want but we are getting (all) of our hair back, unlike a lot of the people on this forum who are stuck in a constant loop of starting and stopping minoxidil/finasteride complaining that they are still losing hair and crying over going bald for the rest of their existence and live in a constant state of anxiety and dispare.

We aren't afraid, and will do what it takes to be able to live comfortably in our own bodies.


an androgyny body and a free androgyny life (because, i can wear whatever i want (->after a little correction of my forehead and a shave of my adams apple/little bit from my chin)) .. i never want miss that ;)
and the norwood-1-hairline (from Estrogen, progesterone and more) in the mid 30s is unbelieveable and cool too..i look only on the heads of women.because nearly every man in my age has less hair and short hair...
 

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So, Maave replied today on reddit.
Since he's still taking bicalutamide (increased it to 100mg), he must be doing well.

BTW, what type of hair loss did he has?
 

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Ikarus

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Everyone remember to drink PLENTY of water daily and exercise to lower risk of blood clotting, it'sreally important to keep the cells from stacking together, these are some natural blood thinners as well to help with circulation

Turmeric
Ginger
Cayenne peppers
Vitamin E
Garlic
Cassia cinnamon
Ginkgo biloba
Grape seed extract

I am attempting to cut down my sugar intake; it’s difficult though! It will be useful in the long-run so I have to put more effort into it. I might start taking turmeric again, though... And ginger!
 

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an androgyny body and a free androgyny life (because, i can wear whatever i want (->after a little correction of my forehead and a shave of my adams apple/little bit from my chin)) .. i never want miss that ;)
and the norwood-1-hairline (from Estrogen, progesterone and more) in the mid 30s is unbelieveable and cool too..i look only on the heads of women.because nearly every man in my age has less hair and short hair...

I am lucky in that I don’t have a visible Adam’s apple! I have a neck similar to a woman’s... Androgyny is key!
 

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So, Maave replied today on reddit.
Since he's still taking bicalutamide (increased it to 100mg), he must be doing well.

BTW, what type of hair loss did he has?

I don’t agree with his stance on hair loss being ‘to use finasteride/dutasteride’; he is saying this based on himself using bicalutamide and raloxifine to treat his non-binary identify.
 

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Perfect hair. Yes, this angle is more masculine.


But why 10 mg? 5 mg fina is ok, no? Or maybe 0.5 mg duta?
Don't use flutamide, please. Bica+CPA is enough.
spironolactone attacks your kidneys and gives low effect. CPA destroys your test better than spironolactone. You can increase dosage of CPA instead of using both (CPA+spironolactone)

finasteride 5 mg is very small. this dose does not work. Avodar 0.5 is also small. I have always taken either 3 avodars or I divide finsteride into 4 parts and I take finasteride every 2 hours. single dose does not work. it doesn't work for me otherwise. Why do you praise bika so much? Is there a Bike result like that of bridgeburn? of course not. let's talk about the bike in half a year. when you test it enough. not long ago there were many who took spironolactone. but one spironolactone is too weak. Do not say that it makes no sense to take сiproterone and spironolactone. You have not tested it and do not know how they work together. I see how it works. I think bika alone is also weak. those people who have taken spironolactone before have also said that it works. and now they say that spironolactone does not work, but bika works. bica raises testosterone. he does not act on the receptors. but acts on the bones. and although they say that the cpa acts on A.R. but it seems to me the worst of all is A.R. finasteride and avodart acts if taken in small doses.
You say it makes no sense to take сiproterone and spironolactone?
Thanks for your advice.
but you speak all of the theory.
and I speak from practice.
 

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theres no point In using bica + cpa, cpa is a partial agonist of the AR
The theory is tested in practice.

a lot of things written on the preparations. for example, on every medicine there is always a side effect of hair loss. so it is written there. so I see the point of combining antiandrogens. for others, it may not work.
 

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Why do you praise bika so much? Is there a Bike result like that of bridgeburn? of course not. let's talk about the bike in half a year. I think bika alone is also weak.

"As antiandrogens, the SAAs have largely been replaced by the NSAAs and are now rarely used in the treatment of prostate cancer, due to the superior selectivity, efficacy, and tolerability profiles of NSAAs."

"Accordingly, a study comparing the efficacy of 50 mg/day bicalutamide versus 300 mg/day CPA in preventing the PSA flare at the start of GnRH agonist therapy in men with prostate cancer found that the two regimens were equivalently effective."

"Bicalutamide has been found to be at least as effective as or more effective than flutamide in the treatment of prostate cancer,[38][39] and is considered to be the most potent and efficacious antiandrogen of the three first-generation NSAAs.[83]"
 

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The theory is tested in practice.

a lot of things written on the preparations. for example, on every medicine there is always a side effect of hair loss. so it is written there. so I see the point of combining antiandrogens. for others, it may not work.
more people died from prostate cancer when they added cpa to castration vs castration by itself

Accordingly, unlike NSAAs, the addition of CPA to castration has never been found in any controlled study to prolong survival in prostate cancer to a greater extent than castration alone.[76] In fact, a meta-analysis found that the addition of CPA to castration actually reduces the long-term effectiveness of ADT and causes an increase in mortality"

so yes, this theory has been tested in practice
 
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