Really? other than the 2young guy i haven't seen anyone get regrowth from dermarolling on its own, you should post your results in the micro needling thread.
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Really? other than the 2young guy i haven't seen anyone get regrowth from dermarolling on its own, you should post your results in the micro needling thread.
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Only marginally effective. In fact, my vertex is below the baseline.
Did you get any gyno from spironolactone? was it severe like mine or minimal?
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Yeah it really works... I have been on minoxidil 2x/d and micro-needling 1x/w for about 40 days and i see that it's working
and it will certainly be wonderful when accompanied by estradiolYeah it really works... I have been on minoxidil 2x/d and micro-needling 1x/w for about 40 days and i see that it's working
What is your current regimen if i may ask?
How long do you guys on HRT intend to continue the cypro/bica/e regimen? For life or is there a point where you decided to stop like your 40s? Are you still on the lookout for alternatives? Just curious because most of you accepted stuff like gyno but I'm pretty most of you also don't want to actually transition but were cornered by hairloss to use the nuclear option
I’m hoping to have an orchiectomy and end this hair loss battle before my mid-twenties. So, that will be my permanent solution.
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Noah's not using it on its own, nothing should be used alone. Synergy is needed for regrowth
You really see yourself taking this past your 50s? Well I mean I get 10-20 years. At the end of the day the main issue we have is just losing our hair but that was going to happen eventually in old age. Not trying to convince you this is wrong but I did figure most of you were just gonna do this through the 30s and maybe 40s since after 50 nearly everyone becomes old anyways. The way I see it, I hope this just holds until a better alternative shows up but I do see a point where old is old and losing my hair isn't as embarrassing anymore compared to my 20s.
Not interested in having a family or anything? Or is hairloss just more important. Well I guess opinions can change with time and there might be better treatments in the future as low a chance as it might seem
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I prefer E over T, a few others here do too.
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Minoxidil foam (Kirkland) 2 times a day + microneedling with dermapen once a week + 5mg estradiol valerate injection once per two week.
by the way, you can see it if you hover your mouse over or tap on My Regimen on my profile
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dont think about using spironolactone. it is very weak in terms of being an anti androgen, plus, if you want it to work you will have to take it at high doses (>100mg/d) and at that doses it will ruin your body by dehydration... i was on spironolactone for about 5 month (2 month on 100mg/d and 3 months on 200mg/d) and it didnt work for me, plus it raised my liver enzymes by 5-fold and i was feeling pain in my liver. as soon as i stopped it my body began to feel very well
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Hey I'm back with an update. My hair has slowly continued to improve even though I stopped taking any drugs for a while and actually shaved my head recently just to see how I felt being bald and maybe stop taking all this hrt stuff. I have long hair for a guy so it was a pretty big change. The guys thought it was cool but almost all the women I know had very negative reactions to my bald head. They were so disappointed, they would just look at me bewildered and said why? They asked me whats wrong like I just had a mental breakdown went crazy and shaved my head. I think some of them felt sorry for me. Though some did say I look more like a man in charge like I should be the boss so that was cool. They got used to it after a while and said they liked it once the shock wore off. I think they were mostly being honest that they liked it after a while but still it honestly hurt seeing their disappointed faces. They dont know Ive been fighting hairloss so they didn't realize how hurtful they were being because their thinking its okay because I can grow it right back which is true but only because of hrt which I'm starting to really hate. I wish you guys could have seen their faces it really did surprise me how strongly they reacted. it really made me feel down. Honestly I wasn't a big fan of the look either so I resumed taking hrt and now that my hair has grown out a bit i've started getting a lot of compliments again which is nice. One person even said I look like I could be a model which is an exaggeration but that was cool to hear.
Also I want to reassure people that might be scared away from doing this because they see people like itsnoahkennedy looking extremely feminine. I have been on cypro and estradiol for over a year now and I look nothing like a girl. I still have a beard and I still have muscles. If you continue to work out they will not atrophy. I've actually been getting stronger and I just started curling 40lb dumbbells for the first time. Part of that reason Is people like noahkennedy takes far more drugs than I do and he never takes any breaks. that being said even with taking breaks and using letrozole and raloxefine I still have gyno bad enough that I still have to wear compression undershirts under tight clothing.
So I have my hair back but beause of the gyno and lack of energy compared to what I used to have I don't feel like a big winner. The Gyno sucks but for me it is simply the lesser of 2 evils so to speak. I plan to go back on letrozole and ralox again in the near future it really reduced the gyno but also mad me lose hair so its a give and take sort of thing. I dont know how long I will keep this up. All I know is I really hate being bald and having no control over my image. At least the hrt gives me a sense of control over myself and gives me much more confidence so overall I am happy with my decision and am a happier person because of it. And once again good luck to any guys out there desperate and crazy enough to try this.
If you don't know me you want to see my results you can see my before and after pics on page 191 of this thread
Also I want to reassure people that might be scared away from doing this because they see people like itsnoahkennedy looking extremely feminine. I have been on cypro and estradiol for over a year now and I look nothing like a girl. I still have a beard and I still have muscles. If you continue to work out they will not atrophy. I've actually been getting stronger and I just started curling 40lb dumbbells for the first time. Part of that reason Is people like noahkennedy takes far more drugs than I do and he never takes any breaks. that being said even with taking breaks and using letrozole and raloxefine I still have gyno bad enough that I still have to wear compression undershirts under tight clothing.
So I have my hair back but beause of the gyno and lack of energy compared to what I used to have I don't feel like a big winner. The Gyno sucks but for me it is simply the lesser of 2 evils so to speak. I plan to go back on letrozole and ralox again in the near future it really reduced the gyno but also mad me lose hair so its a give and take sort of thing. I dont know how long I will keep this up. All I know is I really hate being bald and having no control over my image. At least the hrt gives me a sense of control over myself and gives me much more confidence so overall I am happy with my decision and am a happier person because of it. And once again good luck to any guys out there desperate and crazy enough to try this.
If you don't know me you want to see my results you can see my before and after pics on page 191 of this thread
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Amazing man. Glad for you. So it's all from 12.5mg cypro and 2-3mg Estradiol?
Would also like you join our discord group. @Ikarus
I do have a family already, and it’s a large family. Over time, I’ve learnt that a family isn’t for me. Nonetheless, E will have the same effect so overtime my best option would be to get the ‘snip’ and cut out AAs. I don’t want to use other alternatives, the benefits of androgen deprivation therapy outweigh the negatives by a mile in my situation. Getting rid of androgens when you have androgenic alopecia is the only legitimate treatment, all of the future treatments will suck in comparison.
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Actually I never took cypro daily except the very beginning. Usually it would be only 3 or 4 times a week. These last few months I often go a week or two with no cypro and then I'll take a 50 mg pill. I'm not very consistent or scientific with it. I just take it based on how I feel and random hunches and guessing. And same with estradiol. When I take it I usually take 2.25 mg but I often skip days.
I don't like to spend too much time on the internet so I don't really like discord. This place is good enough for me.
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Lol yeah I think that's what they were thinking. One girl even said to me I did a Britney Spears. They didn't seem to think I just felt like it was a good answer.
Great, great. So would you say your condition improved even after that "after" pic on 191. I mean did you gain even more hair than that regrowth pic of yours?
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Yeah I have. What that after photo doesn't show is that my temples were still pretty thin but now they are really thickening up.