Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[JaneyElizabeth]

I can sleep 24 hours if i feel like absolute sh*t.
No goals, i would like to get my temples back

There used to be a guy who was so fat that he had to live in his bed all the time. 24 hrs is a lot of sleep.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Don't worry I am going to abandon this debate because this person and myself are in intractable disagreement and I do not want to pursue this any further, I'm not here to create acrimony, and frankly if they think my opinion is so off-base they shouldn't be so upset by it.

I'm upset by it because you passed judgement on a variety of trans people -- whether they can pass, whether they could or should have hormones, and if they're either naive or misled about the what they're getting themselves into. And yet you back that up as someone willing to take female hormones to save your hair (something many would think is crazy). But if you are capable of understanding your motives, maybe they are too?

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

I have been using it for ~8 months, i have gyno and i'm currently infertile. No change in erectile quality, and no testicular atrophy. Im as horny as always interestingly

That is strange, and somehow I think that will also be my experience, my donger won't give up no matter what.

The gyno I'm concerned about but that's a matter of dosages.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I'm upset by it because you passed judgement on a variety of trans people -- whether they can pass, whether they could or should have hormones, and if they're either naive or misled about the what they're getting themselves into. And yet you back that up as someone willing to take female hormones to save your hair (something many would think is crazy). But if you are capable of understanding your motives, maybe they are too?

Judgement with an "E" means you are not American. Unless you misspelled it as an American which is easy to do. Judgment is preferred in the US. not that it's better....

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

I'm upset by it because you passed judgement on a variety of trans people -- whether they can pass, whether they could or should have hormones, and if they're either naive or misled about the what they're getting themselves into. And yet you back that up as someone willing to take female hormones to save your hair (something many would think is crazy). But if you are capable of understanding your motives, maybe they are too?

And if my opinion is so completely off base you shouldn't be upset, you should be scoffing at it and leaving it where it stands.

I'm not out to make people feel bad but genetics and hormones being what they are, unless I see convincing proof otherwise, I'm not buying it. It is a very unique set of genetic and hormonal conditions that make males, we all start off as females by default.

That alone should give you an idea as to the rarity of women transitioning and the rate of their relative passability. There is absolutely zero chance in my opinion the way transgenderism and self loathing have been conflated that there is a perfect 1:1 ratio of women who are biologically aberrant exclusively opting to transition. No way, not even close.

But that's my hypothesis and I feel it is well supported.

 

[keepcoolmybabies]

Judgement with an "E" means you are not American. Unless you misspelled it as an American which is easy to do. Judgment is preferred in the US. not that it's better....

I'm American. I use the "swype" feature on my phone tho

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I'm American. I use the "swype" feature on my phone tho

<winks> My mind never stops. I was trying to figure out where you are from by using the word's spelling.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I can sleep 24 hours if i feel like absolute sh*t.
No goals, i would like to get my temples back

I swear to Goddess it looks like mine are coming back. I mean if I have success like KCMB, then we have another protocol that we know can work in the temples and people are still denying that. My temples are my worst area but it used to be the crown was.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Anyhow, I'm done ever talking about the subject of trans people on this board, it's not why I'm here and I'm not interested in starting or being dragged into fights.

 

[Ephemeral-Kitten]

Like I said I'm not criticizing people who are trans, but most certainly the activists who have rammed the acceptance of early life transitioning and the broad scale approval of potentially hazardous treatments to people on the basis of transitioning is concerning, and I say this as a guy who is absolutely going to use female hormones and androgen blockers to recalibrate his body chemistry to start growing instead of losing hair.

A person like myself who has spent at least 10 years learning everything I possibly could about hormones as they pertain to my situation, versus somebody who knows nothing and believes that there are people merely fighting for their right to use the magic fairy dust that will turn them into a beautiful princess are two very different things (I am not referring to you Janey, don't worry I know you know more than most).

But I know a FTM who had absolutely no understanding whatsoever of hormones and just took the test injections thinking she was going to look like a guy, and she ended up looking like chaz bono with ballsack hair glued to her face.

She got fatter, and didn't understand her body was actively fighting the testosterone by aromatizing it, and the doctors didn't even intervene to fine tune the protocol because for them it was all about merely fulfilling their obligation to not be labeled "bigoted" by declining them testosterone.

They're never going to look like a dude, and once they enter their 30s they're going to realize what a horrible mistake they've made, and all because they are not adequately educated on hormones, not like any of us in this community that have to pay our dues by reading the materials we research and are offered to us by our peers.

Early transition is critically important. Bones don't fully fuse until 25 but being forced to take HRT after 18 is a sick joke. Anyone who supports that forced testosterone poisoning nonsense is sadistic.

 

[Gergely]

I mean people ask about genitalia and it is basically what you make of it down there. Gergely. People who only want to bottom look ahem different from people who still want to top. Use it or lose it and well, I have lost it and I am fine not to possess a weapon anymore but you are young. We all have different time frames.

I don't care about its well being, i'm just stating the facts as always. If it matters that much i wouldn't have touched hrt

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

The more info we can get from KCMB, the better, lol, just though emulation. I have MtF's asking me how to develop their breasts. When we have a great result in one area it can be like that.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Early transition is critically important. Bones don't fully fuse until 25 but being forced to take HRT after 18 is a sick joke. Anyone who supports that forced testosterone poisoning non sense is sadistic.

Peace and love by the way.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I don't care about its well being, i'm just stating the facts as always. If it matters that much i wouldn't have touched hrt

I know and I don't want to pry. What you are doing is breath-taking to me and I almost chose that path at 20 but my doctor refused to prescribe. You can always de-transition to breed not that I am imputing anything to you. You are a little quiet about yourself and that is fine.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Early transition is critically important. Bones don't fully fuse until 25 but being forced to take HRT after 18 is a sick joke. Anyone who supports that forced testosterone poisoning nonsense is sadistic.

I have huge issues with kids younger than 15 being tossed into transitioning. Transitioning is more life changing than a teen girl getting pregnant, and once you go down that road as a developing person, that's it, you've done some sh*t to yourself.

Anyhow, broke my own rule, I'm going back to not talking about it anymore...

 

[Almas]

Estradiol turned out to be expensive, so if I want to strengthen my regimen, I would rather choose 50mg Bicalutamide + 1mg Finasteride + 100mg spironolactone
It may also be safer in terms of breast growth, muscle retention, etc.

 

[Ephemeral-Kitten]

I have huge issues with kids younger than 15 being tossed into transitioning. Transitioning is more life changing than a teen girl getting pregnant, and once you go down that road as a developing person, that's it, you've done some sh*t to yourself.

Anyhow, broke my own rule, I'm going back to not talking about it anymore...

Blockers at 12, estradiol at 13. Like Emily Tressa. Anything less is too little. I will die on this hill, it's too important.

T poisoning is exponentially worse than pregnancy. Destroys a person for life. The odds of a cisoid male being accidentally caught up in this is low, so I'll favor the lives of the majority who are trans girls not having their lives destroyed by a bone corrupting hormone being forced on them.

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

I have huge issues with kids younger than 15 being tossed into transitioning. Transitioning is more life changing than a teen girl getting pregnant, and once you go down that road as a developing person, that's it, you've done some sh*t to yourself.

Anyhow, broke my own rule, I'm going back to not talking about it anymore...

Aack!

 

[JaneyElizabeth]

Blockers at 12, estradiol at 13. Like Emily Tressa. Anything less is too little. I will die on this hill, it's too important.

EK has a lot to offer and we already got into it over pronouns so I apologize to her.

 

[DogoDiLaurentiis]

Blockers at 12, estradiol at 13. Like Emily Tressa. Anything less is too little. I will die on this hill, it's too important.

Last time I break the rule.

I am worried about psycho parents who bully their kids into thinking they're trans when they're not.

And once more, I'm far more inclined to believe that happens than somebody at that age feeling there's something seriously wrong with their presented or designated gender.

It probably does, but the world is full of sick politicized psychos and munchausen parents than actual self aware trans people at that age.