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How's your hair loss?

It's stable. I'm one month into using 7.5% CB and I will soon start using Prostaquinon+Latanoprost. I'm still working out a regiment for dermarolling though. Hopefully I'll see some good growth in the next six month.

Btw I used oral minoxidil twice. I felt fatigued and had a racing heart. I also grew hair on my shoulders and upper back. No es bueno.
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Rob Winter talks about that and dosage. I spent thousands removing beard and body hair but I didn't know that was a factor for you. He says lots of guys want a thicker beard and chest. For females 0.25 plus 25 mg spironolactone is said to work pretty well. If you tried just one drop a day you might not have any sides but you know your body plus guys shouldn't use AA's without estrogen generally although that is barely one tenth of what MtF's often take. Titration downwards can sometimes help greatly. it's hard to visualize maybe but oral min is like a different med.

You could also add something called sulfurtransferase to your scalp for a similar turbo-charged minoxidil experience. The liver contains this enzyme but often our scalps don't have enough.






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MtF, on here and on my thread, is used more so for the direction we are going in terms of medical approach but not necessarily in terms of affiliation. Like me, I think there are many who care more about being among the population of folks with a full head of hair and then gender concerns come next.
 
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I already said that there are 2 options:
1) Bica in a sufficient dose to completely suppress T + Duth (I'm looking for a cheap generic)
2) Bica 50mg + finasteride + Estradiol

I don't know which option is better yet. I do not know what effect 0.75mg E per day will have, whether it is enough to suppress T, etc. The first option is simpler and more straightforward, but if your T is very high - using 150mg is very expensive

I'm not rich, so I'm also trying to find an option that young people can afford.
 
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Almas said:
@Pls_NW-1
I already said that there are 2 options:
1) Bica in a sufficient dose to completely suppress T + Duth (I'm looking for a cheap generic)
2) Bica 50mg + finasteride + Estradiol

I don't know which option is better yet. I do not know what effect 0.75mg E per day will have, whether it is enough to suppress T, etc. The first option is simpler and more straightforward, but if your T is very high - using 150mg is very expensive

I'm not rich, so I'm also trying to find an option that young people can afford.
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CPA and spironolactone are dirt cheap. That's why when people know which of the three is best, it depends on different factors like expense and ease of acquisition.
 
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JaneyElizabeth said:
CPA and spironolactone are dirt cheap. That's why when people know which of the three is best, it depends on different factors like expense and ease of acquisition.
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I am trying to find a scheme that does not lower the T to the female levels. Otherwise, we will get a feminization of the face, body changes. Bicalutamide is good at this, any scheme should include it as a base. It is possible to defeat hair loss with 100mg of Bika and dutasteride for sure, but the price of this treatment is very high, so I am looking for other options. At cost, I can afford the following options:
1) 75mg Bica + finasteride / Duta (if I find a generic)
2) 50mg Bica + finasteride + Estradiol. Estrogel is expensive if you use 2 clicks a day (1 press - 2.5g, 80g in a can). But I don't know what effect one press will have (0.75mg estradiol)

It is very difficult to choose. While I check all the options, I'll go bald
 
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Almas said:
I am trying to find a scheme that does not lower the T to the female levels. Otherwise, we will get a feminization of the face, body changes. Bicalutamide is good at this, any scheme should include it as a base. It is possible to defeat hair loss with 100mg of Bika and dutasteride for sure, but the price of this treatment is very high, so I am looking for other options. At cost, I can afford the following options:
1) 75mg Bica + finasteride / Duta (if I find a generic)
2) 50mg Bica + finasteride + Estradiol. Estrogel is expensive if you use 2 clicks a day (1 press - 2.5g, 80g in a can). But I don't know what effect one press will have (0.75mg estradiol)

It is very difficult to choose. While I check all the options, I'll go bald
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Almas, you need to check your T, to know which bica dose you need. Maybe 50mg is just not enough for you, and bica makes it then just worse, because it spikes T up but cant block it off for you.
 
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Almas said:
I am trying to find a scheme that does not lower the T to the female levels. Otherwise, we will get a feminization of the face, body changes. Bicalutamide is good at this, any scheme should include it as a base. It is possible to defeat hair loss with 100mg of Bika and dutasteride for sure, but the price of this treatment is very high, so I am looking for other options. At cost, I can afford the following options:
1) 75mg Bica + finasteride / Duta (if I find a generic)
2) 50mg Bica + finasteride + Estradiol. Estrogel is expensive if you use 2 clicks a day (1 press - 2.5g, 80g in a can). But I don't know what effect one press will have (0.75mg estradiol)

It is very difficult to choose. While I check all the options, I'll go bald
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Yeah. That's what I was trying for until last May. It just didn't work for me with middling levels of both E2 and T. There is research that says that extensive regrowth only comes at adult cis-female levels which are sustained for six to 18 months. When people are below that, only marginal regrowth is likely. There appears to be a very binary on/off sort of effect. Yet, below the neck, your method levels will feminize completely. In my experience, facial feminization and hair regrowth happen last but I guess we all differ. Anyway, last May, I decided to blast my system with E2 and hair growth started becoming noticeable.
 
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Almas, you need to check your T, to know which bica dose you need. Maybe 50mg is just not enough for you, and bica makes it then just worse, because it spikes T up but cant block it off for you.
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Even if it doesn't block all of the T, it blocks most. It can't make it worse, but it might not be enough. I will pass my T level in 3 months, when Bika accumulates in the body and you can find out how much it has grown
 
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Yeah. That's what I was trying for until last May. It just didn't work for me with middling levels of both E2 and T. There is research that says that extensive regrowth only comes at adult cis-female levels which are sustained for six to 18 months. When people are below that, only marginal regrowth is likely. There appears to be a very binary on/off sort of effect. Yet, below the neck, your method levels will feminize completely. In my experience, facial feminization and hair regrowth happen last but I guess we all differ. Anyway, last May, I decided to blast my system with E2 and hair growth started becoming noticeable.
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We don't know if people don't get tested but any protocol resulting in hair regrowth is likely to produce enough estrogen for complete feminization. Most hospital sites still state that hair regrowth is minimal to nothing as most MtF's don't reach adult female targets.
 
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