Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

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The way Obsolutethinker formulated his opinion was very inflammatory. But the man has a point though.

The therapies spoken about in this thread should not be the first line of defense against hairloss for average, heterosexual, young males.

Literally who is saying that our regimen should be first line treatments? I think you should just leave this thread too, because you contribute to the evident hatred towards us. You are another person who has continuously called us ‘trannies’ for using these regimens, and other derogatory terms. In all honesty, I believe Tinker’s account is yours and you have been using it to bash us anonymously. I just find it fishy that as soon as he stops speaking and is banned, you suddenly step in again to defend him and his vicious actions.
 

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The way Obsolutethinker formulated his opinion was very inflammatory. But the man has a point though.

The therapies spoken about in this thread should not be the first line of defense against hairloss for average, heterosexual, young males.

Hormonal route only for those who are ready to sacrifice much for the hair. Young people are most worried about their hair loss and they can make stupid choices due to age and emotionality but their life is their life. Maybe so they'll find their happiness.
 

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I called you that term because you were saying crazy things in other threads. And lol, let a mod check IP's if you think I'm him, I'm not defending anyone. And sure, I will leave but I find it dangerous for normal guys who may look at this thread and think it's a normal way of treating hairloss.
If you'd be having aggressive hair loss when you're between 14 to 20yo, you would easily accept some feminization. Being bald during teenage and early adult age is way worse than some feminization. Moreover, feminization can be prevented - I guess Marky and other guys like Anxious Andy were able to do that.
 

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iam lucky to stand at 6'4, although i dnt care about females, i still get their attention, if only they know that iam a eunuch and on heavy doses of estrogen, but they cant tell from the outside, passing as male is super easy even on 8mg of E2 , behavior and attitude are key, because at the end of they day who is really looking at your bloodwork, no one care actually
6"4 is way too much man. I'm way above average; still not satisfied. Maybe someday, LL surgery becomes less risky and slightly inexpensive, I would go for it to achieve my target of 6".

Honestly you don't have much feminization, or at least, that's what I can tell from your face.

At this point, abandoning interest in girls seems unacceptable to me, but if I continue losing hair, I'm might have to ultimately accept some feminization and lack of libido.
 

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I’ve never agreed with taking the drugs some users here are promoting mostly for the fact that long term I believe the side effects will catch up with the individual and at that point the side effects will likely be irreversible.

Short term it’s likely fine, but I’d be very cautious about claiming such potent drugs won’t have some kind of serious consequence down the line.

I don’t agree how obsolete tinker went about this though, it’s obvious he had nothing better to do as no sane person would waste hours of their life like that.
 

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I called you that term because you were saying crazy things in other threads. And lol, let a mod check IP's if you think I'm him, I'm not defending anyone. And sure, I will leave but I find it dangerous for normal guys who may look at this thread and think it's a normal way of treating hairloss.

What normal man would want to be chemically castrated voluntarily? No one. It's not ideal for most of us, but it's the only option we have. You can not deny for a second that your 'solution' to hair loss will not work for most of us here. We don't want hair systems, and in all honesty they look weird. I would feel even worse about myself knowing that I look like the clown emoji beneath the lace-front.
 

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I’ve never agreed with taking the drugs some users here are promoting mostly for the fact that long term I believe the side effects will catch up with the individual and at that point the side effects will likely be irreversible.

Short term it’s likely fine, but I’d be very cautious about claiming such potent drugs won’t have some kind of serious consequence down the line.

I don’t agree how obsolete tinker went about this though, it’s obvious he had nothing better to do as no sane person would waste hours of their life like that.

People NEED to be aware that long-term use of estrogen WILL cause irreversible infertility. That's something which needs to constantly be mentioned, because I don't think younger people realise that. If the benefits of using these drugs outweighs the potential negatives, then those who decide to use such a regimen should continue it. It's similar to transgender women; they have to decide if the benefits outweigh the potential negatives. Personally, the benefits outweigh the potential negatives by a mile (especially in terms of skin; I had suffered with horrible acne for 1/2 a decade and a difference is finally happening).
 
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The way Obsolutethinker formulated his opinion was very inflammatory. But the man has a point though.

The therapies spoken about in this thread should not be the first line of defense against hairloss for average, heterosexual, young males.
what are you all climbing here? here come those who want to really get their hair back and for this they need a fight against androgens!
 

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This is something I really have a hard time understanding. Hair systems look great now and you won't have to deal with taking medications for the rest of your life.

Check this out and tell me this doesn't look good:


You can do anything with these systems, swim, workout, sweat as much as you want. And you can choose the desnity of you hair, etc. Don't have to worry about any side effects. These things have evolved.

To me these things never feel “real” though and I would always be self conscious that people would know because if the texture, density or positioning is off by even slightly then it would be obvious to everyone. That’s not to say they’re not a valid option for many people but the psychology of it would always feel like I was faking an appearance.

Also if retrograde alocopia kicks in then it would ruin the entire look when the top looks fine and the sides are patchy as hell.
 

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6"4 is way too much man. I'm way above average; still not satisfied. Maybe someday, LL surgery becomes less risky and slightly inexpensive, I would go for it to achieve my target of 6".

Honestly you don't have much feminization, or at least, that's what I can tell from your face.

At this point, abandoning interest in girls seems unacceptable to me, but if I continue losing hair, I'm might have to ultimately accept some feminization and lack of libido.
Lack of libido can be fixed with cialis.
 

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This is something I really have a hard time understanding. Hair systems look great now and you won't have to deal with taking medications for the rest of your life.

Check this out and tell me this doesn't look good:


You can do anything with these systems, swim, workout, sweat as much as you want. And you can choose the desnity of you hair, etc. Don't have to worry about any side effects. These things have evolved.

Reasons why I don't like his hair system //
- His hairline is harsh; it looks like Ken hair.

Reasons why I wouldn't get a hair system //
- It isn't supportive of particular hair styles, and it appears to only support a quiff. This is most likely because it's stuck at one length.
- It doesn't grow, and you are stuck with that length of hair for a considerable amount of time.
- It would make me feel even more self-conscious to know that I am still balding, but I am just hiding the issue. It means you have given up on battling hair loss, and I do not give up. Nonetheless, another reason why it would make me feel more self-conscious is because other people might be able to recognise its a hair system, and then they will realise I have a hair system because I am balding.
- It doesn't clear acne or other androgen-dependant issues. I remember a particular person who told me to get a hair system, and said 'acne can be cleared by drinking water and a good skincare routine' which is a crock of sh*t. I am probably the most educated person on this website when it comes to skincare, yet I still battled with acne because it's an androgen-dependant issue.
- You can still get prostate cancer with a hair system, and I will still die earlier than a woman with a hair system.
- It is costly, and I don't have that sort of money.
- I would not want to go to a hair salon (especially ones which have windows) where they shave the top part of my hair. It would just make me feel severely depressed, and I would hang myself at home!
- I would NEVER hear the end of it with my family telling me I am wearing a 'toupee which will fly away in the wind and hit someone in the face'.

And last of all...

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You can do anything with these systems, swim, workout, sweat as much as you want. And you can choose the desnity of you hair, etc. Don't have to worry about any side effects. These things have evolved.

Another thing is: I don't worry about side effects. Worrying about potential side effects is just bait for placebo-effects to occur, which is most likely what finasteride users do.
 

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This is something I really have a hard time understanding. Hair systems look great now and you won't have to deal with taking medications for the rest of your life.

Check this out and tell me this doesn't look good:


You can do anything with these systems, swim, workout, sweat as much as you want. And you can choose the desnity of you hair, etc. Don't have to worry about any side effects. These things have evolved.

You can't wear this if you want to be a cool guy, lol. System is like admitting that you're full of complexes.
 

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Most people have androgenic alopecia though but yeah in some extreme cases even a hair system doesn't work.

And, no those concerns you stated aren't valid anymore, 99% will not notice that this a system. It's just weird, psychological you'd have problems with wearing a system but you don't have any psychological fear of hormonal problems?

Easy call imo: Hair system >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "chemical canstration", nuking your hormonal system without knowing what potential damage you're causing to your health.

It seems clear to me that you have never been wearing a hair system. I did and the reality is far from YT videos. The results from saloons are as bad as min+finasteride for NW7s. DYI is a little better but you never now what you are getting even if your order is perfect. Many people including me start extreme regimens because how bad hair systems still are. Also read @shookwun story. It is easy to promote something you have never been doing. And it is not about psychology.
 

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Lol, okay those are still weird reasons but I know you're different than the average guy.

Yeah, taking a hormone treatment that can destroy your life in many ways and kills your sex life to save your hair sure is cool though.


I'm going off other ancedotes on this forum; they seemed very pleased and it looks awesome. But I'll definitely check out shookwun's story. Btw can you link it, I can't seem to find it.

And what are you doing now to treat your hairloss?

How is 'It is costly, and I don't have that sort of money' a weird reason? In fact, that's one of the biggest factors. I can barely afford the medications I am purchasing, in which I managed to cut down the cost to £35/month.
 

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I think a hair system is a nice idea in theory but the reality of it is far from easy. They require a lot of work and maintenance.

Not including the repurcussions if you get found out. Yes, women wear makeup etc to hide flaws but for a man this just isn’t accepted by the modern world. It’s a sad fact but this world is a double standard and full of narrow minded people.


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Lol, okay those are still weird reasons but I know you're different than the average guy.

Yeah, taking a hormone treatment that can destroy your life in many ways and kills your sex life to save your hair sure is cool though.


I'm going off other ancedotes on this forum; they seemed very pleased and it looks awesome. But I'll definitely check out shookwun's story. Btw can you link it, I can't seem to find it.

And what are you doing now to treat your hairloss?

The story is spread over many threads but I think this is the main one. https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/threads/my-experience-with-a-wig.98327/

Currently my regimen is: 5% RU, 5% minoxidil, 0.2% sandalore, 2.5 mm dermapen, topical estrogen 0.005%, massage and 2% nizoral cream. No sides, no results. I tolerate it well so I plan to jump on more hardcore things.
 
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