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Reis Junior said:
ur E levels are close to 200pg/ml because of estrofem, bica only increases E by 30-80%
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I meant, bicalutamide must have additionally raised my E. Bicalutamide is definitely not responsible for me having higher E, but it’s definitely responsible for having higher E than when I was on spironolactone.
 
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Ikarus said:
Definitely pg/mL, in that case. I am above ranges aimed for transgender women in my country, shockingly... Do you think I should add minoxidil? I am debating whether I should... On one hand, it could help but on the other hand I am just creating dependence...
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Give E and chemical castration 2 years before adding minoxidil, my crown is still thin but iam gonna wait 18 months before adding min, slow, steady and quality regrowth is better! It is more permanent and you might need to break fibrosis with derma needling idk but leave minoxidil as your last shot, puffy face, facial hair regrowth, and leathery skin sucks especially after spending so much money on laser hair removal and skin care stuff, skin is as important as hair!
 
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Sonolmn98 said:
Give E and chemical castration 2 years before adding minoxidil, my crown is still thin but iam gonna wait 18 months before adding min, slow, steady and quality regrowth is better! It is more permanent and you might need to break fibrosis with derma needling idk but leave minoxidil as your last shot, puffy face, facial hair regrowth, and leathery skin sucks especially after spending so much money on laser hair removal and skin care stuff, skin is as important as hair!
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Maybe since we are younger, and dealt with hair loss early, we could have a desirable amount of growth? I’m not sure... I for sure would be mad if I got less regrowth than finasteride users :confused:

I won’t add minoxidil, in that case. I don’t want to jeopardise the results I have from laser hair removal, especially with the amount of money spent for these results. Risking that for unknown results from minoxidil, which will most likely lose its effectiveness (that is greatly reported with minoxidil users).
 
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Ikarus said:
Maybe since we are younger, and dealt with hair loss early, we could have a desirable amount of growth? I’m not sure... I for sure would be mad if I got less regrowth than finasteride users :confused:

I won’t add minoxidil, in that case. I don’t want to jeopardise the results I have from laser hair removal, especially with the amount of money spent for these results. Risking that for unknown results from minoxidil, which will most likely lose its effectiveness (that is greatly reported with minoxidil users).
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Definitely! It takes 10 years for a boy to turn into a fully grown man, the bones doesn't fully fuse and develop until 25,so it depents when you have hit your puberty, luckily I hit it late at 16 and I was androgens free since 19yro so 3 years weren't that long, but my hair got damaged enough to be noticed, that's why iam ultra sensitive to androgens, so your hips might growth with E and you may notice some changes in bone structures and skin elasticity since you have started alot younger than bridgy
 
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Sonolmn98 said:
Definitely! It takes 10 years for a boy to turn into a fully grown man, the bones doesn't fully fuse and develop until 25,so it depents when you have hit your puberty, luckily I hit it late at 16 and I was androgens free since 19yro so 3 years weren't that long, but my hair got damaged enough to be noticed, that's why iam ultra sensitive to androgens, so your hips might growth with E and you may notice some changes in bone structures and skin elasticity since you have started alot younger than bridgy
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My hips are definitely getting wider... I love it... I just hope that E will be enough to prevent myself from having a ‘mans nose’. I hit puberty at thirteen or fourteen :eek:
 
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Reis Junior said:
@Ein how long did it take u to stop seeing alopecia on bicalutamide and when did u start to get regrowth?
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I started seeing regrowth around the eighth month mark. I have mild, yet visible crown thinning (which appears as a dreaded back part in my long hair). The density on the top was also pretty less, but I'm not sure if it was because my genes or hair loss. The parting on the top and around the hairline is never very thick, but since early childhood, my hair strands have been very limp with horribly less diameter, it splits up at the crown revealing a line of scalp underneath. And since this shedding is never ending, I can't tell if I'm healing or not. I know I shed a hell lot of miniaturized hairs which come back with a little more diameter, but I've also seen that some hair strands are so so so superfine and totally invisible because of less diameter, that they feel like they are miniaturized yet they grow beyond the shoulder length all the way from the top. I don't know what this means, but I don't feel bad at shedding those invisible strands at all.
 
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my silk pillowcases arrived today!

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I'm gunna start sleeping on this to prevent split ends. I feel like a total hair nerd, :p:cool: recently I went to the barbershop and got a trim, the lady cutting it thought my hair was so cool. It was the first time I had gone in so many years, (I just tried to shape it myself since my regimen) and damnn, did I feel nostalgic.. even surreal! it's those little things in life we used take for granted, I sware :'(
 
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HairDork said:
I just read that some usere here didn't have success with oral minoxidil on the crown. Well, that's unfortunate, I guess everybody reacts differently on medications.

However, I tend to agree with most users here that one must add oral minoxidil to his regimen after giving the DHT blocker/antiandrogen + estrogen enough time to work (at least 1 year or longer), or you don't need to add oral minoxidil at all, if you're at least on an antiandrogen + estrogen. I added oral minoxidil for the sake of more gains, even though I don't really need it.

Estrogen has given me the most gains, especially with oral spironolactone, which works like a booster. If you're on cyproterone acetate or bicalutamide with estrogen, it won't only help with hair, but also prevent osteoporosis. This isn't the case with oral spironolactone. I read somewhere that a dose of 200 mg of oral spironolactone is equivalent to a dose of 25/50 mg of cyproterone acetate (correct me if I'm wrong), so I'm unsure that a dose of 200 mg of oral spironolactone can cause osteoporosis without estrogen.
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CPA will cause osteoporosis without using estrogen. On the other hand, bicalutamide doesn't. I found spironolactone weak at lessening androgenic activity within my body. I still produced sebum, enough to cause acne; my scalp still produced sebum, enough to make my hair greasy after a day or two. Since switching to bicalutamide, my sebum production has reduced significantly. My hair doesn't get greasy, even after six days of not washing my hair. Along with that, my skin produces a significantly less amount of sebum; it's in similar ranges to when I was on Accutane. Sebum production definitely appears to be an androgenic issue...
 
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bridgeburn said:
my silk pillowcases arrived today!

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I'm gunna start sleeping on this to prevent split ends. I feel like a total hair nerd, :p:cool: recently I went to the barbershop and got a trim, the lady cutting it thought my hair was so cool. It was the first time I had gone in so many years, (I just tried to shape it myself since my regimen) and damnn, did I feel nostalgic.. even surreal! it's those little things in life we used take for granted, I sware :'(
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I want to get a silk pillow too! I have been looking at some, but I can't find the perfect shade to match my bedroom... Silk pillows are better for your skin too!
 
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Reis Junior said:
fudddddge, I'm on raloxifine and I'm about a 1.25 but I've only been on it for 54 days. anyways baldness before 20 is way worse than gyno, way worse than anything, hair frames the face and gives beauty
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iam only stage 1 after a year of treatment, being under-weight helps! because breasts are 60% fat and the rest is the glands so, lose weight and they should be less of a trouble, building muscles on the top of them will make them way worse i assume
 
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