Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

keepcoolmybabies · Aug 23, 2019

Derelict said:
Great results, what was your entire regimen?

Started at 4mg sublingual e, and 100mg spironolactone. After 2 months or so moved up to 6mg sublingual e, 150mg spironolactone. Then noticed my estrone (e1) levels were out of control at a 10/1 ratio with estradiol (e2) which can happen to about a third of people taking pills. So I changes to injections which corrected the ratio. I've since lowered my spironolactone dosage to 50mg since I don't like the diuretic side effects. Going to try and swap to bica at my next Doctor appointment.

Also take finasteride, but I've taken that for years.

Father_of_Shiseido · Aug 23, 2019

keepcoolmybabies said:
Took pills for probably about 5 months. Injections now for about 6 months. Yes, i've had regrowth. I had minor temple recession and pretty heavy diffuse thinning with a few patchy bald spots. One of my temples filled in completely, the other not as much but better than before. Top filled in a ton. Still have a couple thinner spots, but nothing like before.

Posted this photo before, which shows the worst spot largely filled in.

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Hairs on your vertex were never a problem, right?

Letsdoit · Aug 23, 2019

keepcoolmybabies said:
Took pills for probably about 5 months. Injections now for about 6 months. Yes, i've had regrowth. I had minor temple recession and pretty heavy diffuse thinning with a few patchy bald spots. One of my temples filled in completely, the other not as much but better than before. Top filled in a ton. Still have a couple thinner spots, but nothing like before.

Posted this photo before, which shows the worst spot largely filled in.

Nice result, did you notice any difference in regrowth when you switched to injections and got good levels?

keepcoolmybabies · Aug 23, 2019

Father_of_Shiseido said:
Hairs on your vertex were never a problem, right?

They were. I had diffuse thinning all over top and crown. Crown is still a bit thin in the whirl area but not noticeable since I have long hair which covers it.

keepcoolmybabies · Aug 23, 2019

Letsdoit said:
Nice result, did you notice any difference in regrowth when you switched to injections and got good levels?

Honestly don't know since I noticed regrowth on pills which has thickened up over time. So not sure if it would have done it the same on either method. I switched due to some side effects I was getting due to excessive estrone levels

I'mme · Aug 23, 2019

keepcoolmybabies said:
Started at 4mg sublingual e, and 100mg spironolactone. After 2 months or so moved up to 6mg sublingual e, 150mg spironolactone. Then noticed my estrone (e1) levels were out of control at a 10/1 ratio with estradiol (e2) which can happen to about a third of people taking pills. So I changes to injections which corrected the ratio. I've since lowered my spironolactone dosage to 50mg since I don't like the diuretic side effects. Going to try and swap to bica at my next Doctor appointment.

Also take finasteride, but I've taken that for years.

Do you plan to get a gyno surgery in future?

keepcoolmybabies · Aug 23, 2019

I'mme said:
Do you plan to get a gyno surgery in future?

Nah, I'm cool with a little extra boob. Besides if I wear a tank top underneath my shirt they kinda just look like pecs anyway

I'mme · Aug 23, 2019

keepcoolmybabies said:
Nah, I'm cool with a little extra boob. Besides if I wear a tank top underneath my shirt they kinda just look like pecs anyway

Can you please cite me that product on Amazon or simply name it? I've started spironolactone again so I'm afraid of worsening of gyno for I still have tiny bit of it left.

keepcoolmybabies · Aug 23, 2019

I'mme said:
Can you please cite me that product on Amazon or simply name it? I've started spironolactone again so I'm afraid of worsening of gyno for I still have tiny bit of it left.

What product? A tank top? You can just use any standard one. Just make sure it's tight.

Honestly what I use under my shirt when I really don't want anything to be noticeable is a tight sports bra like this:

adidas Women's Alphaskin Sport Bra, White, Small https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071GD1MMF/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_HZ8xDb3STR6VA

But I doubt too many men will feel ok wearing something like that that so you could always just get something with equivalent compression like an underarmor shirt
Under Armour Men's HeatGear Armour Short Sleeve Compression T-Shirt, Carbon Heather (090)/Black, Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KHTM9X0/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_W48xDb40CGBE7

Father_of_Shiseido · Aug 23, 2019

I'mme said:
Can you please cite me that product on Amazon or simply name it? I've started spironolactone again so I'm afraid of worsening of gyno for I still have tiny bit of it left.

Consider gyno surgery instead. Gynocosmetia is a compulsory trade-off for hair.

Father_of_Shiseido · Aug 23, 2019

Hello guys, I am thinking about replacing 300 mg spironolactone with 100 mg bicalutamide. I am considering this because my vertex and corners of hairline keep worsening over the time. What's your opinion? Will it work better than spironolactone 300 mg?

smtbbcn · Aug 23, 2019

Father_of_Shiseido said:
Consider gyno surgery instead. Gynocosmetia is a compulsory trade-off for hair.

Can gyno still occur after the surgery? Even gland removed completely?

Father_of_Shiseido · Aug 23, 2019

smtbbcn said:
Can gyno still occur after the surgery? Even gland removed completely?

If they remove the entire gland, it won't come back. However, most surgeons leave a small-sized gland in order to prevent craters.

Stephen788 · Aug 23, 2019

Father_of_Shiseido said:
Hello guys, I am thinking about replacing 300 mg spironolactone with 100 mg bicalutamide. I am considering this because my vertex and corners of hairline keep worsening over the time. What's your opinion? Will it work better than spironolactone 300 mg?

You showed us your hair last week there is no hairloss what so ever.

Father_of_Shiseido · Aug 23, 2019

Stephen788 said:
You showed us your hair last week there is no hairloss what so ever.

I can't come to the UK, but in December I am going to France. If we can meet, I will show you my hair condition. I am balding, and that is the truth. I don't have BDD.

Father_of_Shiseido · Aug 23, 2019

Itsnoahkennedy said:
His hair appears healthy in the first photos he sent, but he does have miniaturization in the temples from what ive seen.

My vertex has more miniaturised hair than the temples. When I put my hand on my vertex, I can feel the scalp.

LEXUS · Aug 23, 2019

Left4bald said:
No it's not true ! He has never said that ! You asked him and he told you .5mg (it means 0.5 mg )
Otherwise prove it with a screenshot ! , that he said 10 capsules per day lol

here your answer on the page 334 :

https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/intera...-route-hair-life.109288/page-334#post-1816680
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here. he talked about this many times. when he was in Japan he was not able to take antiandrogens. Avodart in Japan is sold legally. I think that none of the adults confuse 5 mg and 0.5 mg. You are not a child to explain such things to you. screenshot below

LEXUS · Aug 23, 2019

here 334 page

Roarryy91 · Aug 23, 2019

Noah. Damn, your gonna have a lions mane soon

. What exactly are you taking?

Father_of_Shiseido · Aug 23, 2019

Typically, male pattern baldness sufferers have low testosterone, LH and FSH.

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