I might just start applying oestrogel on my crown. But lemme wait..
Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.
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Hair is life to be honest - ha?
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The example I provided of E monotherapy was someone on injections which can bring T to castration levels without an AA. But as most people here seem to use either pills or gel it might still be necessary to be on an AA or 5ari for cessation of hair loss / regrowth, since serum T will otherwise still be relatively high.
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I think maybe I've been gaining more fat in the cheeks these days,
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throw spironolactone to the sh*t!
I put on close to 12lbs of water weight on oral minoxidil, i know you have cut it down to twice a week but have you noticed any weight difference since stopping spironolactone?
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haven't weighed myself in awhile, I don't own a scale
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what have I done, lol
supermusic
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Under your experience, what could be the minimum dose of bica to use as monotherapy and get improvements in hair and avoid gyno?
Thanks
Thanks
Hi guys, I'm looking for some advice on the next step I should take.
I've been on HRT for most of this year using the regimen below. I'm a diffuse thinner from the crown to the hairline. I've achieved some vellus hair regrowth, however, I'm still noticeably losing hair as my hair loss is progressing. Does this make any sense to you? I thought my hair loss would stop and then I'd have some regrowth?
Regimen
- 50mg Cypro daily (9 months so far)
- 2mg Estro Pill daily in morning (9 months so far)
- 3.75mg Estrogel daily in evening (8 months so far)
- 0.5mg Avodart Pill daily (6 months so far)
- Topical Minoxidil daily (15 years so far)
- 1mg Finasteride pill daily (15 years so far)
I also got my testosterone and estrogen levels measured recently. The results were as follows:
Testosterone is 0.45 nmol/L
Oestradiol is 10,163 pmol/L
I carried out the blood test for Oestradiol levels 7 hours after taking the 2mg Estrofem pill in the morning. So as you can see, I'm in the female range.
Taking into account the above results, can you advise what further steps I could take? Should I increase / change the current dosages or add further meds? Bridgeburn mentioned in a private message that I should switch to Bicalutimide but I'm not sure if the Bicalutimide should be replacing anything that I'm currently taking or added to my current regimen? Any help is much appreciated!
I've been on HRT for most of this year using the regimen below. I'm a diffuse thinner from the crown to the hairline. I've achieved some vellus hair regrowth, however, I'm still noticeably losing hair as my hair loss is progressing. Does this make any sense to you? I thought my hair loss would stop and then I'd have some regrowth?
Regimen
- 50mg Cypro daily (9 months so far)
- 2mg Estro Pill daily in morning (9 months so far)
- 3.75mg Estrogel daily in evening (8 months so far)
- 0.5mg Avodart Pill daily (6 months so far)
- Topical Minoxidil daily (15 years so far)
- 1mg Finasteride pill daily (15 years so far)
I also got my testosterone and estrogen levels measured recently. The results were as follows:
Testosterone is 0.45 nmol/L
Oestradiol is 10,163 pmol/L
I carried out the blood test for Oestradiol levels 7 hours after taking the 2mg Estrofem pill in the morning. So as you can see, I'm in the female range.
Taking into account the above results, can you advise what further steps I could take? Should I increase / change the current dosages or add further meds? Bridgeburn mentioned in a private message that I should switch to Bicalutimide but I'm not sure if the Bicalutimide should be replacing anything that I'm currently taking or added to my current regimen? Any help is much appreciated!
supermusic
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Any sides with your regime?
Why is your estradiol levels over 10000 pmol/L?
Yes, minor gyno and thinning of facial hair. Face is also a bit smoother and I don’t get spots anymore.
I guess it’s because I’m taking estradiol pills and applying estrogel?
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Your E is over 10x higher than anything resembling ideal levels. Either that's a lab mistake or typo, or you are ultra sensitive to E supplementation (or maybe your gel dosage is off). If it's really that high you should consider adjusting dosages.
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I actually think bica monotherapy might be a risky idea and and may even cause more harm than good. Bica can more than double T levels unless paired with E or other GNRH anaologue. And while (depending on dosage) the extra free T is likely to be blocked at the androgen receptor, bica does not prevent 5ar from converting that surplus of T into DHT which is a far more potent androgen and has up to a 100x more affinity for the receptors than bica.
Where bica probably shifts into being more advantageous is by limiting the rise of T with a med that affects HPG axis. Or at the very least pairing it with a 5ari to prevent much of the extra T from being converted to DHT.
I’ve just double checked the lab results and their definitely correct. I actually got my bloods tested at two different occasions and their both around 10,000 pmol/L for Oestradiol.
What’s the level of E I should be aiming for that would be considered sufficient as part of HRT?
Should I add Bicalutimide?
Have you ever had your E levels tested and if so, what were your results?
whatintheworld
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Jesus Christ OP, I would have thought you were a girl from birth from your latest picture.
The power of drugs and hormones never ceases to amaze me.
The power of drugs and hormones never ceases to amaze me.