Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Ikarus]

I’ve just double checked the lab results and their definitely correct. I actually got my bloods tested at two different occasions and their both around 10,000 pmol/L for Oestradiol.

What’s the level of E I should be aiming for that would be considered sufficient as part of HRT?

Should I add Bicalutimide?

You should be at 600 pmol/L to 1000 pmol/L.

 

[Ikarus]

Does any one of you know if you can still regrow hair off HRT if you have been balding for more than 10 years?

According to this thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/transtimel...looking_through_old_photos_3_yrs_prehrt_vs_6/

lovecycling79 says: "If you started HRT today, you will regrow hair that you lost up to 2 years ago. Anything before that is very unlikely."

Don't think it's true because look at bridgeburns transformation.

Also, it's clear from this thread that this guy has been balding for years but yet remarkable hair regrowth:

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Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/transtimel...still_amazed_at_how_much_of_my_hair_has_come/

Don't bother with most of the opinions regarding hair loss on the transgender sections of Reddit.

 

[StevenGerrard]

@bridgeburn time to take a small break from all the estrogens, no? Your face is getting quite feminine (I don't mean this as an insult -- just "voicing" how I see it)

You looked your absolute best here:

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like a cute neotenous Old Navy model

 

[nWo Wolfpac]

Yeah honestly bridge you're starting to look like a woman. If that's what you want okay but you should know your sort of in this uncanny valley right now where you don't look quite like a man or a woman.

 

[Ikarus]

Yeah honestly bridge you're starting to look like a woman. If that's what you want okay but you should know your sort of in this uncanny valley right now where you don't look quite like a man or a woman.

So, androgyny? That’s most of our goals...

 

[Yar]

[QUOTE = "keepcoolmybabies, post: 1847844, member: 142367"] Пример. Уровень сахара в крови все еще будет относительно высоким. [/ QUOTE]

Some more photos in a bright white light.

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are you adding progesterone?

 

[Yar]

I think maybe I've been gaining more fat in the cheeks these days,
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you look great! don’t listen to idiots!

 

[StevenGerrard]

So, androgyny? That’s most of our goals...

I don't think that is the goal he was going for -- given that a) he has always sported facial hair at some capacity b) from what I've read he has never bothered to shave or wax his body hair c) he made it very clear during the first 15 pages or so (of this thread) that the only reason he embarked on this regimen was to regrow his hair.

I have seen this all too often on body building forums, skinny guys that start lifting (then roiding) -> achieve the perfect physique and for whatever reason quadrupled their dosage and turn into Ronnie Coleman freaks -- what I'm trying to say is, he has achieved exactly what he was aiming for, it wouldn't hurt to take a break and try to hold on to his hair gains with Duta/Loniten

 

[Ikarus]

I don't think that is the goal he was going for -- given that a) he has always sported facial hair at some capacity b) from what I've read he has never bothered to shave or wax his body hair c) he made it very clear during the first 15 pages or so (of this thread) that the only reason he embarked on this regimen was to regrow his hair.

I have seen this all too often on body building forums, skinny guys that start lifting (then roiding) -> achieve the perfect physique and for whatever reason quadrupled their dosage and turn into Ronnie Coleman freaks -- what I'm trying to say is, he has achieved exactly what he was aiming for, it wouldn't hurt to take a break and try to hold on to his hair gains with Duta/Loniten

Androgyny is an off-centre goal, and is expected when you are on estradiol. I don’t understand Mr. Wolfs issue; just because his regimen is based on constant hormonal shifts, doesn’t mean we have to follow that. In fact, his regimen can active episodes of Telogen Effluvium in some people.

If you stop a strong regimen, you can give yourself the same issue @itchymadscalp had. You can not maintain on 5AR inhibitors; DHT isn’t the only hormone to cause hair loss. Bridge previously has shown someone on Reddit who used a 5AR inhibitor along with estradiol, and after the person stopped estradiol, their hair loss prevailed.

 

[Gaz121]

You should be at 600 pmol/L to 1000 pmol/L.

Is it dangerous to be at around 10,000 pmol/L?

Have you measured your E levels and if so, what result did you get?

 

[Ikarus]

Is it dangerous to be at around 10,000 pmol/L?

Have you measured your E levels and if so, what result did you get?

Mine is 719 pmol/L...

 

[I'mme]

Yeah honestly bridge you're starting to look like a woman. If that's what you want okay but you should know your sort of in this uncanny valley right now where you don't look quite like a man or a woman.

Yeah but that's mostly due to ultra smooth skin (retin-A being contributor) and no facial hair (beard and moustache). If he grows some facial hair he would still pass off as a man.
But as I see, his goals are different from normal guys like us and he should persist with whatever he wants.
(Sidenote - I prefer clean people than some of those dirty high-in-DHT and T guys so there's some bias.)

 

[Ikarus]

Yeah but that's mostly due to ultra smooth skin (retin-A being contributor) and no facial hair (beard and moustache). If he grows some facial hair he would still pass off as a man.
But as I see, his goals are different from normal guys like us and he should persist with whatever he wants.
(Sidenote - I prefer clean people than some of those dirty high-in-DHT and T guys so there's some bias.)

I just don't understand how it's anyone's business... If he's looking more feminine nowadays, so what? And, some of the advice some people give to others on this website is ludicrous. Stopping all of these medications and switching to dutasteride to 'maintain'?

 

[I'mme]

I just don't understand how it's anyone's business... If he's looking more feminine nowadays, so what? And, some of the advice some people give to others on this website is ludicrous. Stopping all of these medications and switching to dutasteride to 'maintain'?

Um.. dude I didn't advice him anything *at all*. I merely said that he would still look male if he grows hair. This isn't advice - it's telling some simple observational fact. Here I didn't ask him to do that - quite the opposite in fact - refer last para for that.

Yeah, I'm disputable regarding maintenance with duta - we don't know anything for sure.

 

[I'mme]

I just don't understand how it's anyone's business... If he's looking more feminine nowadays, so what? And, some of the advice some people give to others on this website is ludicrous. Stopping all of these medications and switching to dutasteride to 'maintain'?

I previously said hair can be maintained with duta because T isn't much Androgenic by itself. DHT is ((far)) more potent androgen.

 

[Ikarus]

I previously said hair can be maintained with duta because T isn't much Androgenic by itself. DHT is ((far)) more potent androgen.

I wasn't referencing you. Nonetheless, it can't be maintained with dutasteride because testosterone is still an androgen. If that was the case, 5AR inhibitors could be used without decline, but there hasn't been a single case where someone has them with the results lasting permanently. Look at what happened to @itchymadscalp.

Um.. dude I didn't advice him anything *at all*. I merely said that he would still look male if he grows hair. This isn't advice - it's telling some simple observational fact. Here I didn't ask him to do that - quite the opposite in fact - refer last para for that.

Yeah, I'm disputable regarding maintenance with duta - we don't know anything for sure.

I wasn't referencing you, I was referring the person I responded to earlier on.

 

[I'mme]

I wasn't referencing you. Nonetheless, it can't be maintained with dutasteride because testosterone is still an androgen. If that was the case, 5AR inhibitors could be used without decline, but there hasn't been a single case where someone has them with the results lasting permanently. Look at what happened to @itchymadscalp.



I wasn't referencing you, I was referring the person I responded to earlier on.

Some on tressless have maintained for more than 10/15 years, but those are rare species lol.

/I wasn't referencing you, I was referring the person I responded to earlier on./
Yeah, thanks!

 

[Derelict]

I just don't understand how it's anyone's business... If he's looking more feminine nowadays, so what? And, some of the advice some people give to others on this website is ludicrous. Stopping all of these medications and switching to dutasteride to 'maintain'?

How you feel about yourself when you look in the mirror, that's all that matters. If bridge is happy then that should be it, i don't think it's right to judge someones appearance on a site where people come because they are not comfortable with it in the first place.

 

[Ikarus]

Some on tressless have maintained for more than 10/15 years, but those are rare species lol.

/I wasn't referencing you, I was referring the person I responded to earlier on./
Yeah, thanks!

Maintaining for ten of fifthteen years seems reasonable, if you haven't started out on strong medications. I would like to see if Mr. Wolf can maintain on dutasteride though, that'll be real interesting!

 

[Father_of_Shiseido]

Um.. dude I didn't advice him anything *at all*. I merely said that he would still look male if he grows hair. This isn't advice - it's telling some simple observational fact. Here I didn't ask him to do that - quite the opposite in fact - refer last para for that.

Yeah, I'm disputable regarding maintenance with duta - we don't know anything for sure.

I beg to disagree. His facial fat have deposited in female like pattern. He wouldn’t be able to pass as a man even if grows a beard.