Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[baldingAF]

oh snap.... so can we say with some confidence that this isn't just a possible lifestyle/gender change but also an intake change? as in water, food, eat, sleep, pop anti-andros and estos?

scary....but not totally new. Anyone who wants to keep what they've had on anything will have to contine

 

[I'mme]

What are you using now?

Just finasteride and minoxidil.

 

[baldingAF]

Has anyone had this level of growth/recovery on just AA and no Estrogen?

 

[Brenna]

Has anyone had this level of growth/recovery on just AA and no Estrogen?

Don't do this. I get that a lot of y'all are cis men, and wanna stay that way but you need to understand this is essentially close to an all or nothing thing for you. You either do it, or you don't. Going half way will f*** you over more. AA will nuke your T and leave you with your endocrine system struggling because of no replacement for it in E. This will destroy your health.

 

[Ikarus]

Don't do this. I get that a lot of y'all are cis men, and wanna stay that way but you need to understand this is essentially close to an all or nothing thing for you. You either do it, or you don't. Going half way will f*** you over more. AA will nuke your T and leave you with your endocrine system struggling because of no replacement for it in E. This will destroy your health.

I wouldn’t say that’s certain, the males on this website just have to be strategic. I mean, bicalutamide doesn’t have the typical effects of ADT, so that combined with 6.25mg/day of CPA can lower the increase of T which bicalutamide has, putting your testosterone levels into the lower range of normal male ranges, which makes bicalutamide more effective whilst not having increased T.

 

[Ikarus]

Has anyone had this level of growth/recovery on just AA and no Estrogen?

If you used oral minoxidil instead of estradiol, sure.

 

[Tattoo]

Without e and using only AA might result in osteoporosis

 

[Ikarus]

Without e and using only AA might result in osteoporosis

Osteoporosis can be prevented with exercise

 

[baldingAF]

I think my goal now is to try and just increase aromatase (promoter i.4) for adipose conversion of T into E and hope that stays local and I can sort of create a trap to make sure that area keeps DHT?T low but with higher E. There are a few studies saying there is depletion of aromatase in the common balding areas in ADA so maybe thats it. I'll try and keep everyone posted.

If anyone knows anything that increases aromatase (other than Dex, EP1 & EP2 agonists, PGE2 & PGE1) let me know!

 

[Derelict]

If you used oral minoxidil instead of estradiol, sure.

Oral minoxidil didn't really work well for me, i think it may be good at growing temples but not so much the crown area for some bizarre reason. BTW ikarus is 1mg estradiol sublingually a waste of my time or should i use 2mg? i know i'll get sides i just want to lessen the severity of them as much as possible, my hair loss is not as bad as yours. btw i restarted spironolactone at 100mg, it has got rid of the itch i was getting on my crown, dunno why i still had an itch when im nuking my dht with dutasteride but spironolactone helps significantly even at 100mg.

 

[I'mme]

Don't do this. I get that a lot of y'all are cis men, and wanna stay that way but you need to understand this is essentially close to an all or nothing thing for you. You either do it, or you don't. Going half way will f*** you over more. AA will nuke your T and leave you with your endocrine system struggling because of no replacement for it in E. This will destroy your health.

No no no.. say CPA or bica is used. CPA only lowers T by 70% and after about a month it is 60%.
60% less T would still be in male range and the person will be completely fine in most cases.

Osteoporosis is a very slow process and can be countered by using supplements such as Vit D, boron etc. Also there are medicines for osteoporosis.

 

[Ikarus]

Oral minoxidil didn't really work well for me, i think it may be good at growing temples but not so much the crown area for some bizarre reason. BTW ikarus is 1mg estradiol sublingually a waste of my time or should i use 2mg? i know i'll get sides i just want to lessen the severity of them as much as possible, my hair loss is not as bad as yours. btw i restarted spironolactone at 100mg, it has got rid of the itch i was getting on my crown, dunno why i still had an itch when im nuking my dht with dutasteride but spironolactone helps significantly even at 100mg.

You should use 2mg/day preferably, but it depends on what you can handle, to be honest.

 

[Derelict]

You should use 2mg/day preferably, but it depends on what you can handle, to be honest.

Is 2mg progynova fine to use? Also just a general question, how long does it take for the pill to dissolve subllingually? tbh id prefer to just take it orally but have been told that's a bad idea in general.

 

[Ikarus]

Is 2mg progynova fine to use? Also just a general question, how long does it take for the pill to dissolve subllingually? tbh id prefer to just take it orally but have been told that's a bad idea in general.

You don’t take Progynova sublingually, you take that orally.

 

[Derelict]

You don’t take Progynova sublingually, you take that orally.

Silly me, i'll need to look further in to this, im starting beginning of next year anyway so i have time. Thanks for the reply and sorry for the stupid question lol

 

[bridgeburn]

Silly me, i'll need to look further in to this, im starting beginning of next year anyway so i have time. Thanks for the reply and sorry for the stupid question lol

It's not designed to be taken sublingually but you can do it, and it's better than swallowing it

 

[Derelict]

It's not designed to be taken sublingually but you can do it, and it's better than swallowing it

So i should be looking for micronized estradiol for sublingual? If i can take progynova sublingually that would be best even if it takes a little longer to dissolve, i think i will try that if possible.

 

[bridgeburn]

So i should be looking for micronized estradiol for sublingual? If i can take progynova sublingually that would be best even if it takes a little longer to dissolve, i think i will try that if possible.

micronjzed or hemihydrate (estrofem and elleste solo) is best for sublingual

 

[Gergely]

13 days of Spironolactone 100mg, Estradiol Valerate 2mg daylin. No side effects so far.
I had a blood test at day 10, although i don't have a reference point.

 

[StevenGerrard]

What is a powerful antiandrogen that won't cause gyno? is there one? I can accept everything else (lower libido, ED, feminization, etc..)