Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[Derelict]

I dont know. Theres just too many subreddits linking them as sources and too many anecdotes from people saying they received their package. It doesnt really matter with the amount of online pharmacies we have.

You will receive your package, just don't surprised if you start getting strange use of your bank card a month or two after buying from them. I definitely linked it back to them, they are the only culprit. But you are right there are other pharmacies to buy from,but im terrible when it comes to using payment options, unless it's bank cad or paypal im clueless lol

 

[Moosey]

Why don't you try it?

I will actually now that you gave me the idea. Im still curious why you think worsening of the skin doesnt happen with oral minoxidil. This is not to challenge you. Maybe you saw some anecdotes or anything like that.

 

[John Difool]

I originally observed similar symptoms on my face with topical and since switching to pills no more.

 

[John Difool]

I observed it on my face. Now your mention of letting run on the forehead is totally something possible. My eyebrows grew denser. When I use oral hair grew on my hands.

 

[Marky]

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I have seen this assumption several times throughout the thread now. I think this is not what would happen and im not surprised it doesnt happen. You guys follow this assumption because alot of hairloss treatments, exspecially minoxidil, "artificially", temporarily grow hair for as long as the drug is in the system and doing its thing. Like a bridge thats at the verge of collapsing, and you get below it to prevent it from doing that. And it'll not collapse but only as long as you stand there, holding it in its place.
What this guy has done (or any MTF-protocol success story here) is not just holding the bridge with his own hands. He repaired the bridge. He healed his hair follicles, his cells, and his scalp. Its not hair that survives with the aid of drugs. It is healthy, terminal hair that has recovered and healed to a large extent. Think about your hair before you hairloss begun. Did you guys turn 12 and go bald in a day the second your body started producing testosterone? No. Strong, healthy hair doesnt just die in 4 months due to androgens. It takes more time than that. Just like it took years and years of androgen damage to have hairloss the very first time it happened.

Agree! Then you have to consider as we get older we produce less androgans, so again less attack on the 'repaired bridge'
Then less cortisol from perhaps a less stressful life as you've seen it all before and know stress is what is perceived.
Plus when we were younger we were likely playing more sports cause androgen spikes, that is lesser with age too. I'm mid age btw.

 

[Marky]

I am a diffuse thinner, as I said my family is full of NW6 and NW7s. Pic 1 and 3 are baseline, pic 2 is the rapid loss Minoxidl caused in 2-3 months. Pic 4 is now, it seems results are coming in from now onwards.
Keep in mind im 108 days into my Frontal area FUE operation 3100 grafts. Its the mid scalp and crown that I am using meds for. Only in the last 2 weeks do I have more hair vs when I was at baseline some 7 months ago. I had been well below baseline and devastated for months, but didnt give up.

Ya that frontal area is tough, the meds that work well on most areas of the head usual don't have much effect on the temples and hairline - what a mystery, and wish master bridgeburn would pipe up again about any new results. The most successful guy I've seen with frontal growth is antydhtor, but he was on a bazooka balls terminating regimen:

Second place was like Mike, does anyone know what DHEA is?

 

[Blackweasel]

Ya that frontal area is tough, the meds that work well on most areas of the head usual don't have much effect on the temples and hairline - what a mystery, and wish master bridgeburn would pipe up again about any new results. The most successful guy I've seen with frontal growth is antydhtor, but he was on a bazooka balls terminating regimen:
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Second place was like Mike, does anyone know what DHEA is?
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Antydhtors warewolf hairline is kick ***. Im just not willing to take 200CPA lol

 

[John Difool]

I'm afraid of oral for that reason. I don't want more hair on my body. Did you grow hair on your hands while also on estradiol? How has your experience with estradiol been?

Fantastic so far. I am at 8mg Estrofem (EH) Estrogel 4mg (17b) and 10mg Estriol. You mentioned 6mg max. I was curious why.

 

[Marky]

Fantastic so far. I am at 8mg Estrofem (EH) Estrogel 4mg (17b) and 10mg Estriol. You mentioned 6mg max. I was curious why.

You got before and after pics?

 

[Moosey]

It doesn't make sense. You would think it would make the side effects worse. Topical can only affect the skin on your face by going systemic, unless you let it run down your forehead. Does anyone have a theory how oral can be more effective on hair yet less effective on skin?

Yes thats what i thought too. Ill just try and see for myself.

Ya that frontal area is tough......

That second guy used 100mg of progesterone. Does progesterone grow hair too? I thought out of all the estrogens, estradiol is the most hair friendly hormone.

Antydhtors warewolf hairline is kick ***. Im just not willing to take 200CPA lol

He grew a female hairline. Thats ugly

 

[John Difool]

I am on progesterone just to moderate my mood. If not I am pms'ing everyday.

 

[John Difool]

Ya that frontal area is tough, the meds that work well on most areas of the head usual don't have much effect on the temples and hairline - what a mystery, and wish master bridgeburn would pipe up again about any new results. The most successful guy I've seen with frontal growth is antydhtor, but he was on a bazooka balls terminating regimen:
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DhEA increases testasterones so I am surprised to see it on that list. I stop igf1 drug (mk577) for the same reason.

 

[John Difool]

That's what I read so far. 6-8mg. However there doesn't seem to be a higher threshold causing harm. I also use it to lower testasterones and as a byproduct dht.

 

[Derelict]

I really don't think 6/8mg of E is needed for hair regrowth imo.That's the sorts of dosages people use to transition. Duta, 2mg of E along with an AA like cpa/spironolactone/bica should be enough for the vast majority of people to regrow hair, but i would personally avoid cpa because of long term health risks.

 

[Kaue carrera]

I really don't think 6/8mg of E is needed for hair regrowth imo.That's the sorts of dosages people use to transition. Duta, 2mg of E along with an AA like cpa/spironolactone/bica should be enough for the vast majority of people to regrow hair, but i would personally avoid cpa because of long term health risks.

dutasterida + cpa
or
dutasterida + bica
or
dutasterida + cipro

 

[John Difool]

Or Duta + Bica + 1/2 CPA

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

dutasterida + cpa
or
dutasterida + bica
or
dutasterida + cipro

Bica is the safest.

 

[NorwoodingMyWay]

Or Duta + Bica + 1/2 CPA

Way too much stress on the liver.

 

[Kaue carrera]

Bica is the safest.

bica is more effective than cypro?

what would be the recommended starting dose for spout or cypro
along with dutasteride and minoxidil !!!

 

[Capone]

Bica is the safest.

Common (1% to 10%): Chest pain, hypertension, angina pectoris, congestive heart failure, myocardial infarction, coronary arrest, coronary artery disorder, syncope[Ref]

Wouldn’t like to try what isn’t safe.