Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

Grim

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After viewing this thread, part of me wants to try estrogen. Would estrogel be beneficial if applied to the hairline?
 

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After viewing this thread, part of me wants to try estrogen. Would estrogel be beneficial if applied to the hairline?

Oestrogel is intended to go systemic don't think that you can avoid systemic side effects by applying it just on regions of hair loss.
 

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if a person removes their boobs with surgery, if they use a trans regimen, will their boobs grow again?
 

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I have a tube of estrogel. I might as well put it on my hairline. I don't mind it going systemic at all. But im wondering if placing the gel on my hairline would be more beneficial than placing it elsewhere to be absorbed.
 

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This and because it allows taking a lower dose of bica. I would personally feel safer on 25-50 mg of bica than 100-150 mg.
Bica is not magical. You will need to take high levels of Bica to block higher T levels. Many girls when transitioning start with chemical castration drugs especially in Europe where Cypro is legal then when levels are more acceptable switch to Bica and sometimes overlap the two while Bica needs time to build up. I have some admiration for Dr Powell and his method to avoid CPA at all cost but everything is not so simple. Bica as a monotherapy sucks. You will need E to balance. If you are going thru a trans regimen for the main purpose of solely regaining hair you are on for some memorable surprises. Balancing hormones and their effect on your body is a difficult act and never side effect free. Let's be real, there is no free lunch. Whomever believes they can just regrow with E, Bica, and/or CPA and look like Ronaldo in hair and body specs is completely nuts.
 

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I already had the gland removed ... with cyprus, would my tits only grow again?
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I already had the gland removed ... with cyprus, would my tits only grow again?
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I don't know everyone is different. A friend of mine got gyno from smoking marijuana had a surgery and never quit smoking. Boobs are back so it's not as permanent as some people will make you believe. It can and has shown to come back. If yours don't then good on you. But taking AA or E you should assume that risk.
 

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Oral minoxidil is low key making it really hard for me to evaluate whether or not my temples are receding. Minoxidil makes me grow hair sparsely all the way down from my temple to my eyebrows so it’s hard to tell whether I’m looking at minoxidil hairs that I would expect to be thin or my own miniaturizing hair.
 

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Oral minoxidil is low key making it really hard for me to evaluate whether or not my temples are receding. Minoxidil makes me grow hair sparsely all the way down from my temple to my eyebrows so it’s hard to tell whether I’m looking at minoxidil hairs that I would expect to be thin or my own miniaturizing hair.

Lmao, an here we have another fullheaded idiot who is taking strong and unnecessary drugs to stop his imaginary hairloss, unbelievable the amount of mental illnesses on this forum is amazing... In the meantime i'm losing all my hair and afraid to take propecia and these freaks are castrating themselves with fullheads of hair lmao, mind blowing
 

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I have a tube of estrogel. I might as well put it on my hairline. I don't mind it going systemic at all. But im wondering if placing the gel on my hairline would be more beneficial than placing it elsewhere to be absorbed.

Apply it to your bum or thighs.
 

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So the past few pages have led me to believe that the HRT isn't as all encompassing as it was at the beginning. I mean if its still on minoxidil for most of the regrowth like everyone is saying then is the only benefit of estrogen to just help deal with AR binding?

What exactly is the mechanism behind minoxidil and why does it seem to be so much better orally than topically?
 

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but it seems like unless youre a great responder for topical then oral is the only way to get some real results. But even then I thought that minoxidil had a place in the whole hormone theory and that the ultimate goal is to increase ERB binding and reduce AR binding, is that not still ideal?
 

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Lmao, an here we have another fullheaded idiot who is taking strong and unnecessary drugs to stop his imaginary hairloss, unbelievable the amount of mental illnesses on this forum is amazing... In the meantime i'm losing all my hair and afraid to take propecia and these freaks are castrating themselves with fullheads of hair lmao, mind blowing
I caught it within a month of when I started balding. Both my uncles went bald really quickly during their senior years of high school which is when I started balding aggressively. My dermatologist gave me a scalp biopsy and confirmed it was male pattern baldness and threw me on dutasteride, but it didn’t work. My hairline is only strong BECAUSE I was proactive. Regrowing your hair is 10x more difficult than keeping it. If I had waited to act all that would’ve happened is I’d be maintaining at a Norwood 3 or 4 instead of wherever I am right now. We all have our own opinions on the sides we’re willing to accept to keep our hair. I’m willing to accept more than the average person, but even then I’ve been doing this for 2 years and have experienced barely any sides. Through all my experimentation I’ve only gotten gyno which has been going away as of recent and a slightly lower libido. Hell I even put on 20 pounds of muscle while taking these drugs. I’ve managed to avoid taking estrogen because I’ve played my cards well to date.
 

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I caught it within a month of when I started balding. Both my uncles went bald really quickly during their senior years of high school which is when I started balding aggressively. My dermatologist gave me a scalp biopsy and confirmed it was male pattern baldness and threw me on dutasteride, but it didn’t work. My hairline is only strong BECAUSE I was proactive. Regrowing your hair is 10x more difficult than keeping it. If I had waited to act all that would’ve happened is I’d be maintaining at a Norwood 3 or 4 instead of wherever I am right now. We all have our own opinions on the sides we’re willing to accept to keep our hair. I’m willing to accept more than the average person, but even then I’ve been doing this for 2 years and have experienced barely any sides. Through all my experimentation I’ve only gotten gyno which has been going away as of recent and a slightly lower libido. Hell I even put on 20 pounds of muscle while taking these drugs. I’ve managed to avoid taking estrogen because I’ve played my cards well to date.

You and your dermatologist know better mate, especially if he has done a scalp biopsy so yeah, what can i say, you do you, it's your life in the end not mine and even if i may be wrong i still doubt that you are balding but you maybe be right also that you could have been way worse without these treatments so as i said, you know better that's for sure...
 

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SOOoooooOOOoOoOOooooooo are we thinking that estrogen in and of itself is beneficial for hair or is it just that it takes down Androgen Receptor binding and helps in that way?!?!?!

Cause if we're saying that minoxidil is the only real growth angle then that f*****g sucksssss
 
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