Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.
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We all be there soon enough
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I will get my DHT tested soon, but I assume the DHT gets formed from all the DHEA-s in the tissue.
I too assume the DHT isnt formed much from my T, as its already low lol.
I wish there was a magic acid etching all away these f*****g adrenal androgens lmaooo
I too assume the DHT isnt formed much from my T, as its already low lol.
I wish there was a magic acid etching all away these f*****g adrenal androgens lmaooo
I disagree. I think you'd be capable of raising a fine herd of milkers.
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You think Bica might work for me?
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... They don't know what half bald means. I think they would kill themselves being me.
And that was still good... few weeks ago.
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I'm starting to think I have problems with my kidneys, I have immense high stress hormone levels, cortisol and now... EXTREME high DHEA-S levels.
I even got all to most of the symptomes of an overactive adrenal gland.
"An overproduction of androgenic steroids, such as testosterone, can lead to exaggerated male characteristics in both men and women, such as hairiness of the face and body, baldness, acne, deeper voice, and more muscularity."
"high blood pressure and to those symptoms associated with low levels of potassium, such as weakness, muscle aches, spasms, and sometimes paralysis."
I wonder if my dizziness, I get really often, is related to anything of that.
I even got all to most of the symptomes of an overactive adrenal gland.
"An overproduction of androgenic steroids, such as testosterone, can lead to exaggerated male characteristics in both men and women, such as hairiness of the face and body, baldness, acne, deeper voice, and more muscularity."
"high blood pressure and to those symptoms associated with low levels of potassium, such as weakness, muscle aches, spasms, and sometimes paralysis."
I wonder if my dizziness, I get really often, is related to anything of that.
As I've mentioned before, I don't even think you may necessarily need to go the bica route. Maybe you will. Obv only time can tell. But I mean, you just started finasteride so at least give that a chance. Sure, it usually only maintains and slows things, but there are a few good responders out there who get good regrowth on it.
I'm just advocating that you give some "male" treatments a shot before jumping to bica. Needling, minoxidil, perhaps RU and etc. Oral minoxidil WILL grow hair in pretty much everyone. It's just a matter of how much it will grow back. If you've already have established maintenance I believe you can even just cycle it and maintain benefits without having to depend on it, because I know that the sides can be cosmetically annoying for some.
I just don't want to see you go from finasteride straight to the bica route and regret it. At least try duta/OM/RU and such before you go down the nuclear path.
I'm just advocating that you give some "male" treatments a shot before jumping to bica. Needling, minoxidil, perhaps RU and etc. Oral minoxidil WILL grow hair in pretty much everyone. It's just a matter of how much it will grow back. If you've already have established maintenance I believe you can even just cycle it and maintain benefits without having to depend on it, because I know that the sides can be cosmetically annoying for some.
I just don't want to see you go from finasteride straight to the bica route and regret it. At least try duta/OM/RU and such before you go down the nuclear path.
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page 513 will surely cheer you up
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Noah... Crazy dude.
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He has more hair than me XD cool
He has almost as much hair as bluecyclone and his son
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LMAOOO you are soooo mean.
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Wait, whats the SARMS function on the follicle?
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I start to believe more and more that Bicalutamide won't work for me.
And that even Finasteride and Dutasteride will fail me.
This is the adrenal androgen "production".
As you can see; DHT is made out of 3 ways:
1. T -> DHT | by 5AR (gonadal and adrenal T)
2. DHEA -> DHT
3. P -> DHT
There is a small minority of men who are DHT mutants. Their DHT level can't be controlled by a 5ARi. In fact, the adrenal androgens control the DHT. Men with high DHEA(-S) often have a problem to solve this.
Men with prostate cancer can't stop cancer, even with castartion, because of this. The cancer is castration resistant, because the adrenal androgens can create as much DHT (and other androgens) as they want.
@IdealForehead was also a DHT mutant, 5ARi's didnt change his DHT levels at all.
I will do a blood test in 2 weeks and another one in 2 months and another one in 4 months. If my DHT hasn't fallen, this proves that my adrenal gland, or well, my adrenal androgens are overreacting and are literally covering up the inhibition I want to do. Even Bicalutamide would fail me because the follicles will always create a lot of DHT, as they need, by DHEA-S.
The only way to deal against this is, to use castration-resistant-cancer drugs, which interfer with adrenal androgens, such as Enzalutamide or Darolutamide. I more and more think that I will need to use high doses of Darolutamide topically to successfull combat this, if it's true that the next blood tests show no changes in DHT levels.
Keep in mind... my last DHEA-S test showed that I have EXTREMELY a lot of them in my blood circulating. No wonder I started to grow a beard as a 12/13 year old, had hairy body within the age of 11 and already starting to bald with the age of 13/14.
ANDROGENS ARE KILLING ME xD
And that even Finasteride and Dutasteride will fail me.
This is the adrenal androgen "production".
As you can see; DHT is made out of 3 ways:
1. T -> DHT | by 5AR (gonadal and adrenal T)
2. DHEA -> DHT
3. P -> DHT
There is a small minority of men who are DHT mutants. Their DHT level can't be controlled by a 5ARi. In fact, the adrenal androgens control the DHT. Men with high DHEA(-S) often have a problem to solve this.
Men with prostate cancer can't stop cancer, even with castartion, because of this. The cancer is castration resistant, because the adrenal androgens can create as much DHT (and other androgens) as they want.
@IdealForehead was also a DHT mutant, 5ARi's didnt change his DHT levels at all.
I will do a blood test in 2 weeks and another one in 2 months and another one in 4 months. If my DHT hasn't fallen, this proves that my adrenal gland, or well, my adrenal androgens are overreacting and are literally covering up the inhibition I want to do. Even Bicalutamide would fail me because the follicles will always create a lot of DHT, as they need, by DHEA-S.
The only way to deal against this is, to use castration-resistant-cancer drugs, which interfer with adrenal androgens, such as Enzalutamide or Darolutamide. I more and more think that I will need to use high doses of Darolutamide topically to successfull combat this, if it's true that the next blood tests show no changes in DHT levels.
Keep in mind... my last DHEA-S test showed that I have EXTREMELY a lot of them in my blood circulating. No wonder I started to grow a beard as a 12/13 year old, had hairy body within the age of 11 and already starting to bald with the age of 13/14.
ANDROGENS ARE KILLING ME xD