Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

JaneyElizabeth

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Does anyone have experience with progesterone, and how did affect their results?
Yes. I copied Bridge in cycling 300 mg P4 ten days a month. Bridge only did 200 mg but I don't know if he knew how poorly it is processed via the liver. I have used progesterone cream on hair, face, breasts, buttocks, etc but much less often than I have used estrogen and often I do it in conjunction. I have no idea but even if p4 and e2 are competitive in some aspects, it could be that together, they crowd out androgens. Most MtF's use P4 and Depo-provera for breast finishing purposes in terms of Tanner 5, as it parallels cis-female pubertal increases in P4. Most MtF's come nowhere close to Tanner 5 and very few make it to Tanner 4 but no guarantees says she as she bounces about in life now....

I have no idea if any of this works or matters but I lean towards P4 not mattering unless you use enough so that it functions clearly as an anti-androgen. Provera or medroxyprogesterone acetate, its full name, is easier to use and much cheaper.
 

franzliszt

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I lose 14 hairs an hour
That sucks, sorry to hear that. Have you altered your regimen in any way or did it just start happening?
Yes. I copied Bridge in cycling 300 mg P4 ten days a month. Bridge only did 200 mg but I don't know if he knew how poorly it is processed via the liver. I have used progesterone cream on hair, face, breasts, buttocks, etc but much less often than I have used estrogen and often I do it in conjunction. I have no idea but even if p4 and e2 are competitive in some aspects, it could be that together, they crowd out androgens. Most MtF's use P4 and Depo-prover for breast finishing purposes as it parallels cis-female pubertal increases in P4.

I have no idea if any of this works or matters but I lean towards P4 not mattering unless you use enough so that it functions clearly as an anti-androgen. Provera or medroxyprogesterone acetate, its full name, is easier to use and much cheaper.
I'll give it a go, some say it helps, some say it doesn't. I'll try it rectally since I hear it has the best bio-availability that way
 

JaneyElizabeth

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That sucks, sorry to hear that. Have you altered your regimen in any way or did it just start happening?

I'll give it a go, some say it helps, some say it doesn't. I'll try it rectally since I hear it has the best bio-availability that way
That results in a substantially-higher effective dose so you are moving to having P4 have anti-androgenic effects. I could nay say various breast growth theories in terms of meds but when you come right down to it, I have tried all meds and techniques purported to increase breast and nipple size so I can't prove what did what but I have really big, round, bouncy tits with huge nipples that keep growing too.

So I might be the Bridge of breast growth; everything worked for him to grow hair with no sides or anything, and that is similar to my breast growth. In some cis-females breast growth essentially never stops it appears as I go past station A, then B, then C, and now D and I don't know but even onward to E cup and beyond.
 

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I wonder if I can make them grow terminal hair again... don't know how.

Thats the temple and hairline area. I just noticed that my hairline receded over 2-3cms in the last few (6) years. And temples moved from NW0 to NW2.

It's fibrotic skin now I guess... someone has an idea!?
 

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JaneyElizabeth

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I wonder if I can make them grow terminal hair again... don't know how.

Thats the temple and hairline area. I just noticed that my hairline receded over 2-3cms in the last few (6) years. And temples moved from NW0 to NW2.

It's fibrotic skin now I guess... someone has an idea!?
I write about this all of the time. It's similar to transplant grafts that don't take. Micro-needling can restore that skin and the body "knows" to start hair growth in such novel skin tissue. When I started with DR, literally every single time the grafts would scab over and get smaller and less prominent. I loved combing the dandruff-looking scabs off because it meant that my scalp was healing. Micro-needling, together with tretinoin and estrogel is the ne plus ultra of restorative treatments. Estrogen plus microneedling is Goddess-sent.
 

JaneyElizabeth

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Sorry, what do you mean by this!?
So say there's a mass of scar tissue on somebody's scalp. Hair doesn't grow in scar tissue. But microneedling can heal scar tissue leaving perfect pristine skin tissue with the newfound ability to grow hair. Skin tissue "talks" among itself.
 

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So say there's a mass of scar tissue on somebody's scalp. Hair doesn't grow in scar tissue. But microneedling can heal scar tissue leaving perfect pristine skin tissue with the newfound ability to grow hair. Skin tissue "talks" among itself.
Which depth would you recommend?

Whats the next step in your eyes to turn all those vellus hairs into terminal ones!?
 

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I first noticed something was up with my hair during the summer, noticing a lack of density in my hair after I picked it out with an afro pick and detangling comb. (I'm African American.) Before this point, I had kept my hair in cornrows regularly for over five years, and whenever I had them taken out, my hair would poof out into a large, thick afro type style. An afro is actually a somewhat specific hairstyle that is a lot neater and rounded out than my hair was in it's natural, combed out state. But the "wildness" of it was part of my aesthetic during my 20's.

At first, me and my siblings figured it was traction alopecia, so I stopped getting my hair cornrowed for several months and used Jamaican Black Castor Oil to repair any damage, as well as daily moisturizing and weekly deep conditioning. These methods are used by Black people to heal traction alopecia and they are very effective at that.

But from September to January, I noticed significant thinning in my crown, as well as the top front portion of my head behind my hairline. Strangely enough, my hairline doesn't appear to have receded yet, at least not in a cosmetically significant way. I'm not sure how the thinning was able to progress to such a degree without me or my siblings noticing, since they helped me take care of my hair and braided it into a less tension causing style. I think it may have been concealed by my hair's long length until it became bad enough to be noticeable. And my father told me that his hair began thinning when he was about my age (32), before going bald. So, perhaps the lack of density I noticed last summer was my hair just starting to noticeably miniaturize.

My hair loss has been particularly distressing since I am non-binary/androgynous, one of the main reasons why I grew my hair out was as a way to affirm my identity in a way that would not raise questions. So, the possibility of losing my hair is causing a great deal of dysphoria, especially just when I was at a point where I felt I could start to fully embrace my identity.

I started taking Finasteride in late January as a way to, hopefully, preserve as many follicles as I can while I figure out what to do, long term. I am considering HRT not just as a means of keeping my hair and bringing back density, as well as fostering growth, but I am also considering HRT as a possible way to affirm my identity. Right now, I am simply in the plotting stage, and likely won't see a doctor about HRT until the Fall. Reading through the thread, I don't see many downsides to the hormonal route other than the possibility that it may not work for me. I have yet to see another person of African descent try the HRT route, or even consider it. So, I have no idea how afro textured hair would respond to it.
 
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