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Deep vein thrombosis in a transgender woman - PMC
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Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.
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Thank the non-binary movement. I know you are in a benighted place but we are generally gaining acceptance and a person can be non-binary and only dress as a man. People are free to use my line as well if families or friends ask:
HRT? I am only in it for the hair....
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You were smitten by a medication because you read that it was highly effective and appears to have fewer male sides. I get that. When I started using min, most of us expected quite a bit more regrowth and then I idolized proscar and I expected at least some regrowth and then I idolized topical estrogen only on the scalp and after none of these panned out, although I am thankful for maintenance, then I was like screw it. My breasts are getting too big to deny but I haven't reached my hair goals. If I had understood how well oral min worked, I might have done that earlier but again we don't how much regrowth is typical from oral min, just that it is typically much more than from topical. It might be synergistic with HRT. Anyway for non-MtF's and folks wary of all feminization, 20mg of oral min daily split into two doses might do wonders and maybe oral min would have worked with topical estradiol and I might never have gone down this road because I might not have gotten severely depressed and thrown my life in turmoil.
So these meds can be extremely important to psychological health but the most important thing is the feeling of control. Feeling that you won't lose any more; feeling that you can vigorously brush your hair without dread, these aspects are monumental to escaping the depression of baldness if possible.
Calmness is what balding people are deprived of. I would be calm if we had a guaranteed baldness treatment. But we don't have that kind of treatment. Therefore, I constantly worry and think: "Will scheme X help me? And if it does not help, what to do next? And what if nothing helps me?"
These questions keep me awake at night for more than six months, it's excruciating
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And honestly, if many people could know exactly how many years they have, that might make it easier but the way it works in practice is when we first see hair loss we have no idea what it means but it is never good. I was obsessive and that probably helped me with maintenance. Almost literally, I have never missed a day of topical min going back to 1989. So I had none of that, "tried to get off min and finasteride and disaster" sort of thing that seems to be omnipresent on Tressless. I have always known that this is for life, all of it. Many of the young guys can't contemplate using min for sixty years. How did I do it for 30-plus years? One day at a time.
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Probably hard for you guys to discern but those posts from Reddit make it more likely that Bicalutamide is a healthy choice to use in order to use less estrogen. It's tricky though because bica is synthetic and has more sides. E2 has few sides except feminization but if DVT is an apparent risk then that changes the analysis. Perhaps P4 in large amounts would still be the healthiest choice to use with estradiol. The issue from the weekend involved syringe use and I think patches are safer but still present risk of some magnitude as higher levels are hit.
On the other hand, this was a failed attempt to emulate settler women on the plains and their average E2 levels because many such women are essentially always pregnant. I am Catholic and we used to be known for mothers who were pregnant quite often so it is an interesting question because such situations can be up to 15 years for cis-women but they might have some unknown protective mechanism. At least for now, my advice is that no one sustain levels above 1,000 pg/ml although mere spikes might be less problematic but we really don't know. Without sufficient data, it is difficult for any of us to do risk/reward analysis to the extent that we would like to.
On the other hand, this was a failed attempt to emulate settler women on the plains and their average E2 levels because many such women are essentially always pregnant. I am Catholic and we used to be known for mothers who were pregnant quite often so it is an interesting question because such situations can be up to 15 years for cis-women but they might have some unknown protective mechanism. At least for now, my advice is that no one sustain levels above 1,000 pg/ml although mere spikes might be less problematic but we really don't know. Without sufficient data, it is difficult for any of us to do risk/reward analysis to the extent that we would like to.
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Algumas ideias Tato?
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Guys I had a really nice email exchange with a long-time lurker so I wanted to introduce him. Like Tato he is from South America. His handle is too long so I christen him Balding DES but let me go cut and past the entire screen name. Am I the only one without a screen name that implies hair loss, lol? You can tell we really live this.
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Guys, I was contacted by the "Broccoli guy" from tressless and he asked me to post a response of his to the various critiques on here. I think he was hoping that my thread is a bit more sophisticated than reducing things to eating broccoli. Because my thread has a name, I might post a new thread but it's over on Hair is Life. Lol, For me, this is exclusive content and I can paste it on the main board later, lol.
@JaneyElizabeth Can you please clarify what this means?
I am reading as topical estradiol is fine but not oral.
"i'm 25 and have had some thinning the past year and a half or so...but i think some of it was due to malnutrition and just over all mental health issues, because i've been on HRT since 16 years old .,,,anyway, Testosterone still probably played a role in some of the thinning over all too...
especially hair around my ears getting thinner and just the overall appearance of my hair went from thick and bouncy to kinda fine and dull... i went from having a really perfectly shaped hair line (imagine a well drawn arc across my forehead haha) to one that was a little more "jagged" along the edges if that makes sense..it still looks feminine, and happened very gradually to where it's not that noticeable unless i compare pictures..but still reeally bothers me...
showering became a source of anxiety because when i would dry off my hair, it would seem to be coming out all over the place....
cut to now, almost 2 months post orchi and i've begun to notice hundreds of tiny baby hairs along my hair line sort of "filling in" the jagged edges...it looks as if it's returning to the previous "well drawn arc" shape it had before....
my favorite thing ever though ,is now after I shower, my hair doesn't fall out AT ALL. like before, if i would run my hands through my hair when it was wet, my hands would be covered in hair...now, i can do that and nothing comes out at all...and it's only been, like i said, just about 2 months"
especially hair around my ears getting thinner and just the overall appearance of my hair went from thick and bouncy to kinda fine and dull... i went from having a really perfectly shaped hair line (imagine a well drawn arc across my forehead haha) to one that was a little more "jagged" along the edges if that makes sense..it still looks feminine, and happened very gradually to where it's not that noticeable unless i compare pictures..but still reeally bothers me...
showering became a source of anxiety because when i would dry off my hair, it would seem to be coming out all over the place....
cut to now, almost 2 months post orchi and i've begun to notice hundreds of tiny baby hairs along my hair line sort of "filling in" the jagged edges...it looks as if it's returning to the previous "well drawn arc" shape it had before....
my favorite thing ever though ,is now after I shower, my hair doesn't fall out AT ALL. like before, if i would run my hands through my hair when it was wet, my hands would be covered in hair...now, i can do that and nothing comes out at all...and it's only been, like i said, just about 2 months"
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Yes, mostly but I have posted on here and on my thread that just this weekend, a very good acquaintance of mine and someone with a genius intellect revealed that she had been maintaining even higher levels that I have been for over six years straight via injections and that she has ended up with deep vein thrombosis. I know that it is really difficult for her because she is one the smartest monitors on the Reddit self-help MtF sites and much of what I know, I have learned from her.
So, I need to walk back some what I said and we are all free agents, so this is just my view of best practices and Tato maybe will have opinions. But I am recommending that people stay between 300 pg/ml to 700 pg/ml as best to emulate Mr. Bridgeburn. Her reasoning was that Catholic mothers are often pregnant for 15 to 20 years straight so those levels, pregnancy levels shouldn't be harmful since MtF's don't even have to bear the children. She had an avant garde PA apparently prescribing for her who approved all of it so I think that that is embarrassing for both of them. Nobody do anything stupid for hair and I adore that gal but those Catholic mothers are not injecting with needles all of the time and cis-females may have ways of diffusing excess estrogen that XY's lack.
Parenteral is basically anything but oral and I think rectal but basically patches, injections, Estrogel, pellets and trans-dermal creams. I have never injected. I might try it just to be more familiar with the mechanics of it but for people with insurance, the Climara patches work better in my opinion with no blood and no syringes for nosy people to find. Poor people in other countries often can only afford injections. And just like morphine, half the MtF's think injections must be better for "results" but there is zero evidence for that. What they do do, along with the patch is help people meet levels essentially immediately but I have preached long and hard today on Reddit that doing that stunts breast growth so there is just a ton of misinformation and a lot of the studies are flawed.
I am no Nobel scholar, well not yet but I have been working on a Janey version of How to Grow Hair; How to Grow Breasts and How to Do Both. My theory is that hair results should only be attempted after the person is satisfied or clearly done with breast growth. Everybody thinks more estrogen will grow more breasts and that's the only thing it won't do, really. I have written a lot this weekend to try to take up the slack for my friend:
I spent a lot of time on this and I often look for situations where I feel like I can pontificate a bit and they all respect me, lol because I have D cups and almost all of my hair back and probably because I have worn the wig and that has helped me to get to know some of the systems guys on here hopefully in a non-threatening way:
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Some nights I stay up all night when I get interested in a response or responses that I work on and hopefully I am getting better at being gentle. I only sleep like four hours a night since I started provera really.
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Hi guys, I'm just passing by here, it's been 1 month since my last post on this topic, sorry, sometimes I read quickly and left, the situation here in Brazil is ugly because of COVID my time has been running a bit.
What I can say is that after several tests with myself I think that AA is only valid for falsifying high estrogen values, this is kind of complicated.
I have been on E2 since November last year, going in and out doing cycles with E2, along with bicalutamide, decrease my dosage of bicalutamide a month to 12.5mg a day, and keep on gaining ground.
I spent a lot of time passing E2 on the scalp for about 100 days without stopping and sometimes up to 6mg a day, but I didn't see anything, I added CPA, I saw results, but when I added CPA I felt really bad when I tried a small dosage of bicalutamide I had a visible, considerable effect, and I keep earning just for the record I had already tried flutamide OH I had an effect similar to bicalutamide, I knew it would respond well, flutamide did a miracle for me, but I have already made posts about it.
Maybe if I stayed at E2 for more than 1 year, or if I had waited 6 months I would have seen something, after seeing so much the results are slow 1 year of treatment for more to have a considerable recovery.
I am cycling E2 as if it were a builder, because i wanna to maintain considerable levels of T.
I am ejaculating though less but at a considerable level, perfect erection function, I can have sex at any time even unprepared.
But the thoughts are different, I don’t think about sex all the time although I’m ready, it goes through my head a little, things like “My god I need to jack off” don’t happen.
I have a sensitivity in my right chest, but nothing visible yet, but there is a small stone there, as if I were a teenager.
My whole skin is different sometimes I see my arm and I think it's strange my skin is not thicker, I am softer, white, less oily, my skin glows, it is fresh, my face is different if someone compare the photo of 2020 with that month it's clear i have a more neotenic face i would say, i don't know if this is good, but it is what is happening.
My liver tests are still a little altered, but already close to normal, I am closely monitored, it is working but I have this problem.
So in summary
I don't know if testosterone is the bad guy, my testosterone is around 600 and I'm getting hair and skin quality and so on, I think the big problem must be the imbalance that occurs at some point.
I think that resolving this imbalance manually is possible afterwards to maintain the results even with high Testosterone seen by NoahKenedy who did this.
So the great thing is to see which treatment really works for you, as we do not have access most of the time to exams and tissue images, we go through trial and error and success, and unfortunately this is very cruel.
The guidelines are as follows.
Hair loss involves too much, which is why it works for some and not others, despite the same consequence that would be the loss of hair the causes will vary. This is very complex.
I think that our approaches are always exaggerated because we don't know where we really need to act.
How to use bicalumitada for hair loss, is like wanting to kill a beetle with a chainsaw, but that is our point of knowledge at that moment unfortunately.
If bicalutamide and other AA do not work, at least we have a gigantic differential diagnosis at hand
What I can say is that after several tests with myself I think that AA is only valid for falsifying high estrogen values, this is kind of complicated.
I have been on E2 since November last year, going in and out doing cycles with E2, along with bicalutamide, decrease my dosage of bicalutamide a month to 12.5mg a day, and keep on gaining ground.
I spent a lot of time passing E2 on the scalp for about 100 days without stopping and sometimes up to 6mg a day, but I didn't see anything, I added CPA, I saw results, but when I added CPA I felt really bad when I tried a small dosage of bicalutamide I had a visible, considerable effect, and I keep earning just for the record I had already tried flutamide OH I had an effect similar to bicalutamide, I knew it would respond well, flutamide did a miracle for me, but I have already made posts about it.
Maybe if I stayed at E2 for more than 1 year, or if I had waited 6 months I would have seen something, after seeing so much the results are slow 1 year of treatment for more to have a considerable recovery.
I am cycling E2 as if it were a builder, because i wanna to maintain considerable levels of T.
I am ejaculating though less but at a considerable level, perfect erection function, I can have sex at any time even unprepared.
But the thoughts are different, I don’t think about sex all the time although I’m ready, it goes through my head a little, things like “My god I need to jack off” don’t happen.
I have a sensitivity in my right chest, but nothing visible yet, but there is a small stone there, as if I were a teenager.
My whole skin is different sometimes I see my arm and I think it's strange my skin is not thicker, I am softer, white, less oily, my skin glows, it is fresh, my face is different if someone compare the photo of 2020 with that month it's clear i have a more neotenic face i would say, i don't know if this is good, but it is what is happening.
My liver tests are still a little altered, but already close to normal, I am closely monitored, it is working but I have this problem.
So in summary
I don't know if testosterone is the bad guy, my testosterone is around 600 and I'm getting hair and skin quality and so on, I think the big problem must be the imbalance that occurs at some point.
I think that resolving this imbalance manually is possible afterwards to maintain the results even with high Testosterone seen by NoahKenedy who did this.
So the great thing is to see which treatment really works for you, as we do not have access most of the time to exams and tissue images, we go through trial and error and success, and unfortunately this is very cruel.
The guidelines are as follows.
Hair loss involves too much, which is why it works for some and not others, despite the same consequence that would be the loss of hair the causes will vary. This is very complex.
I think that our approaches are always exaggerated because we don't know where we really need to act.
How to use bicalumitada for hair loss, is like wanting to kill a beetle with a chainsaw, but that is our point of knowledge at that moment unfortunately.
If bicalutamide and other AA do not work, at least we have a gigantic differential diagnosis at hand
At what age did you start to go bald?
Your scheme is not entirely clear to me. Why don't you just use 75-100mg of Bicalutamide with Finasteride, but arrange cycles, complicating the scheme?
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I already said that, bicalutamide 50mg increased my transaminases by 20% and even decreasing the dose keeps changing, by cycling E2 I can control my T levels, which are normally 800-900.
I started to go bald at the age of 16, but very slowly so that my hair first deteriorated in texture before starting to thin in the frontal region.
This is funny when I was 15 16 years old, my hair changed its texture a lot and I always talked to the hairdresser and he said it was like that.
So when I was 22, 23 years old I started to realize that my forehead was receding a little, I was never a diffuse one, mine are the frontal ones.
At the age of 23 I was already on my first hair loss treatment.
I am currently 27.
My mother is not bald, my sister is not bald on the contrary I am Brazilian I have a little of South American Indians, this is expressed a lot in my sister and mother's hairdresser, very black and long hair.
My father is a diffuse nw3, but he still has a considerable level of hair despite his 60 years.
Big problem is my maternal grandfather who is an nw5.
My uncles and aunts none completly are bald on either side, some are bald (NW2, NW3) but they all have some level of hair even in their 40s.
This is my history
If I had not adhered to any treatment, it would probably be an NW3 with volume, and I would lose volume as I got older like all my uncles.
I started to go bald at the age of 16, but very slowly so that my hair first deteriorated in texture before starting to thin in the frontal region.
This is funny when I was 15 16 years old, my hair changed its texture a lot and I always talked to the hairdresser and he said it was like that.
So when I was 22, 23 years old I started to realize that my forehead was receding a little, I was never a diffuse one, mine are the frontal ones.
At the age of 23 I was already on my first hair loss treatment.
I am currently 27.
My mother is not bald, my sister is not bald on the contrary I am Brazilian I have a little of South American Indians, this is expressed a lot in my sister and mother's hairdresser, very black and long hair.
My father is a diffuse nw3, but he still has a considerable level of hair despite his 60 years.
Big problem is my maternal grandfather who is an nw5.
My uncles and aunts none completly are bald on either side, some are bald (NW2, NW3) but they all have some level of hair even in their 40s.
This is my history
If I had not adhered to any treatment, it would probably be an NW3 with volume, and I would lose volume as I got older like all my uncles.