I had a gyno surgery couple years ago... However my nipples are still painful and they are slowly growing on Bica.. :/. Mostly they are not removing whole gland because of chest deformation
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I'll have to insist on removing the entire gland and probably getting hollows to avoid growth...
Yea Its better to have hollows than boobs..
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I'm not sure if it's OK for me to post here because this is my first post and because of the sort of person I am, but I think I can offer a piece of advice about gyno and gyno surgery due to my perspective. Apologies in advance if I'm not welcome here.
I'm FtM (female-to-male) transgender and, as far as I know, if your breast tissue has fully developed under the action of estrogen, you can't "regrow" female-like breasts after having gyno surgery. The only way that a breast-like appearance could resurface is if you weren't fully developed prior to surgery and continue using estrogen, which could cause growth again because your breast tissue wasn't finished developing. A secondary possibility is that higher levels of estrogen can cause fatty tissue to accumulate in your chest, which could result in "man boobs", but that wouldn't be true breast tissue and could in most cases shed with sufficient diet and exercise, and of course, higher levels of androgens.
So, surgery is a permanent solution to any further true breast growth as long as you've fully developed before having surgery.
As far as having "hollows" after surgery, that would depend on your surgeon and your particular situation, but transgender men don't have "hollows" after surgery. We have fairly normal looking chests after surgery. I say fairly because obviously they will not be 100% scar-free, or look 100% like a cisgender man who has never developed gyno, but they aren't hollow. This is most likely because the surgeon, as others have mentioned, doesn't remove the entire gland, but because our chests (FtM transmen) have almost invariably already been exposed to estrogens long enough to have fully developed, they aren't capable of growing again after surgery.
So, if you desire a more cosmetically pleasing appearance, but also don't want to face the risk of further breast tissue development, I believe it would be best to wait until the breast tissue has fully grown, because as undesirable as that is, it would at least be temporary and, in my opinion, the long-term results would be more pleasing.
Obviously, none of this is to be taken lightly. Surgery isn't without risks and it should go without saying that if a guy isn't comfortable having a less than perfect chest, estrogens are the last thing he should be using, but if one is determined to go that route, I think it's good to have information available to help make the best decisions. That's why I felt inclined to contribute here, as I don't believe there's ever been a transman's perspective on this issue.
Again, if you've developed gyno, your chest will never be the same again and surgery will not restore your chest perfectly to its pre-estrogen state. Your nipples will still be larger and/or positioned differently. If your gyno develops into large breasts, you may even have to undergo a more scarring procedure, which leaves long, horizontal scars below each "breast". I believe it might be helpful for anyone considering or undergoing surgery to read about FtM top surgery, as it would actually be the same situation.
I hope this information can be of some use to someone out there. If anyone has any questions which I might be able to answer due to my different background, I'd be happy to offer what knowledge I can.
I'm FtM (female-to-male) transgender and, as far as I know, if your breast tissue has fully developed under the action of estrogen, you can't "regrow" female-like breasts after having gyno surgery. The only way that a breast-like appearance could resurface is if you weren't fully developed prior to surgery and continue using estrogen, which could cause growth again because your breast tissue wasn't finished developing. A secondary possibility is that higher levels of estrogen can cause fatty tissue to accumulate in your chest, which could result in "man boobs", but that wouldn't be true breast tissue and could in most cases shed with sufficient diet and exercise, and of course, higher levels of androgens.
So, surgery is a permanent solution to any further true breast growth as long as you've fully developed before having surgery.
As far as having "hollows" after surgery, that would depend on your surgeon and your particular situation, but transgender men don't have "hollows" after surgery. We have fairly normal looking chests after surgery. I say fairly because obviously they will not be 100% scar-free, or look 100% like a cisgender man who has never developed gyno, but they aren't hollow. This is most likely because the surgeon, as others have mentioned, doesn't remove the entire gland, but because our chests (FtM transmen) have almost invariably already been exposed to estrogens long enough to have fully developed, they aren't capable of growing again after surgery.
So, if you desire a more cosmetically pleasing appearance, but also don't want to face the risk of further breast tissue development, I believe it would be best to wait until the breast tissue has fully grown, because as undesirable as that is, it would at least be temporary and, in my opinion, the long-term results would be more pleasing.
Obviously, none of this is to be taken lightly. Surgery isn't without risks and it should go without saying that if a guy isn't comfortable having a less than perfect chest, estrogens are the last thing he should be using, but if one is determined to go that route, I think it's good to have information available to help make the best decisions. That's why I felt inclined to contribute here, as I don't believe there's ever been a transman's perspective on this issue.
Again, if you've developed gyno, your chest will never be the same again and surgery will not restore your chest perfectly to its pre-estrogen state. Your nipples will still be larger and/or positioned differently. If your gyno develops into large breasts, you may even have to undergo a more scarring procedure, which leaves long, horizontal scars below each "breast". I believe it might be helpful for anyone considering or undergoing surgery to read about FtM top surgery, as it would actually be the same situation.
I hope this information can be of some use to someone out there. If anyone has any questions which I might be able to answer due to my different background, I'd be happy to offer what knowledge I can.
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Hello. What do you think about taking dutasteride 0.5 mg per day orally, is it dangerous? Did someone take it? Any results? Thanks.
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I've been taking it for 1.5 years. No side effects but didn't do much for my hair loss. No one can tell you if it has side effects or not on you particularly. People here take bicalutamide and they do good, but I apply it topically and get heart related side effects. Each body react different to medication.
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Are you taking Dutasteride 0.5 mg every day?
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It is clear that Dutasteride suppresses 5-alpha-reductase and dihydrotestosterone many times better than Finasteride, in addition, it suppresses type 1 and type 2.Also, what do you think about the use of topical estradiol 0.75 mg/1.5 mg per day? Or is it better not to take risks and use topical Minoxidil with Finasteride topically plus estradiol topically?
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I'm now taking it every other day because I've added more stuff to my regimen, but I used it every day for 1 and a half years.
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Yeah but the most important is scalp DHT not serum. I wouldn't use that estradiol dosage if it's your first time. I'll be using 0.03125mg/ml and see how my body reacts. Keep in mind estradiol is very strong and will feminize you. You can try topical finasteride every day alongside oral minoxidl every day and oral dutasteride 3 times per week.
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At the moment I am using topical minoxidil foam 5% in the morning and evening since January and no effects, and Spironolactone cream 5% — I will not use it anymore (almost over) in the morning and evening. I plan to start using topical Estrogel either 0.75 mg (one click) 1 time a day, or 1.5 mg (2 clicks) in the morning and evening. I've read a lot of reviews... yeah..It's scary. It's probably worth trying with one click 0.75 mg per day. Also, I'm thinking about taking dutasteride 0.5 mg orally 1 time a day or every other day. There is also a local drug Maxogen-X (I plan to purchase), consisting of: Minoxidil 7.0% (70 mg *), Finasteride 0.15% (1.5 mg *), Azelaic acid 1.5% (15 mg *), ABN ComplexTM 0.8% (8.0 mg *), Retin-A (otherwise, tretinoin) 0.025% (0.25 mg *), Fluocinolone 0.01% (0.1 mg *), Caffeine: 0.001% (0.01 mg *)
(* amount in each milliliter (ML)), it is written on the official website of MinoxidilMax that the lotion is applied 1 time a day, since there is tretinoin in the composition and how they write if you are currently using oral finasteride, then there is no need to do this. I am 26 years old, I hope everything is not lost yet (((
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I would not use that estrogen dosage to begin with but as you wish man. About minoxidil, if you add tretinoin it should work. I would use the regimen mentioned above and see if it works, but it is your choice at the end of the day.
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Can you show us the success? Quick success mate.
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here's my current stack. i'll prob do an update at the end of the year unless i have some serious gains.
injectable estrogen 7mg weekly
oral minoxidil 10mg daily
topical foam minoxidil 5% eod
15% minx/finasteride 1% i use .25 mg on the hairline eod
estrogel on hairline eod
home prp, 1500g @5 min
2ml of oral castor oil daily
shampoo with high % of caffeine and other supposedly hair stimulating ingredients
a handful of hair and inflammation related supplements daily
niacin (with flush) 500-1500mg daily
intense brushing to scalp daily
microneedling 1.5mm weekly
hgh daily
injectable estrogen 7mg weekly
oral minoxidil 10mg daily
topical foam minoxidil 5% eod
15% minx/finasteride 1% i use .25 mg on the hairline eod
estrogel on hairline eod
home prp, 1500g @5 min
2ml of oral castor oil daily
shampoo with high % of caffeine and other supposedly hair stimulating ingredients
a handful of hair and inflammation related supplements daily
niacin (with flush) 500-1500mg daily
intense brushing to scalp daily
microneedling 1.5mm weekly
hgh daily
pretty solid...
I don't know how bald you are, but that combo should give you a good chance at regrowth.
¿Are you planning on gyno surgery? that regimen will feminize your body... although it's not all bad, my face looks prettier, I'm getting more attention from girls now (if they knew I'm growing boobs lool)
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maybe a norwood 2 with diffuse thinning. not concerned with gyno, i doubt i will even feminize, testosterone didn't do anything for me at all, so i doubt estrogen will either. i have a pituitiary tumor so lived my life without hormones.
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Hello wish to know if 0.25mg E2 is sufficient to stop hair loss without feminizing effect.