Exploring The Hormonal Route. Hair=life.

[MylovelyHair]

I feel like CPA would make you feel terrible since you wouldn’t have a dominant sex hormone though

Horrendous

 

[Almas_NW0]

facial fat distribution, skin, facial hair, bone structure. Some of these are affected by estrogen and some are permanent. You may be an exception to this, but "manly facial structure + smooth soft skin" is uncanny. People who switch s*x hormones later in life can easily have a very weird look.

I remembered all the people in this thread, including Bridgeburn, who have tried HRT. I can't remember a single time where this made a guy look worse. I recently rewatched Bridgeburn's transformation and thought, "Damn, this is real looksmaxxing."

2) Looks are not everything. Hair is important and all, but I very much hope that the people you are in contact with in your life is not entirely because of their hair follicles on their head. Of course, initially when getting to know someone it may be important, but everyone is judged much more by their actions. As a man, this even influences your attractiveness more. You wouldn't like to be surrounded with superficial people whose only topic is plastic surgery, right?

God, what a shitty bluepill. Yes, actions are important, but how does this negate the importance of a person's external attractiveness and how much it improves life?

3)

Hormones do not affect health in such a way that those diseases that are treated with T are not treated with E. In addition, we have women who live happily with E as the main hormone.

4) Even if your head will look absolutely cute, you may gain fat you don't want.

This is true. And this is why I am trying to find a way to treat baldness without resorting to HRT. I'm currently trying RU, but I'm pretty sure it won't work.

I personally think that the only time you may consider suppressing testosterone / taking estrogen is:

- When you actually crave a feminine body and you are not built too manly with broad shoulders and wide ribcage
- You cannot deal with your urges and want to calm down
- You live in a very liberal area

The last point doesn't matter. If you don't take HRT for your trans transition, no one will know.
It makes sense to take HRT if you are going bald, there is no other way to treat it and you cannot come to terms with it because hair is very important to you. No one can tell you what you need except yourself.

 

[Almas_NW0]

I tried nofap once with my friend from high school

Sounds like the beginning of a gay story.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Sounds like the beginning of a gay story.

Are you gay? I’m seriously not even trolling, just genuinely curious. No judgment.

 

[Almas_NW0]

Are you gay? I’m seriously not even trolling, just genuinely curious. No judgment.

No. Sorry to disappoint you.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

No. Sorry to disappoint you.

so you like women?

 

[Almas_NW0]

so you like women?

Yes, I'm straight.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Yes, I'm straight.

Are you dating anyone?

 

[losingbattle88]

I remembered all the people in this thread, including Bridgeburn, who have tried HRT. I can't remember a single time where this made a guy look worse. I recently rewatched Bridgeburn's transformation and thought, "Damn, this is real looksmaxxing."

God, what a shitty bluepill. Yes, actions are important, but how does this negate the importance of a person's external attractiveness and how much it improves life?

Hormones do not affect health in such a way that those diseases that are treated with T are not treated with E. In addition, we have women who live happily with E as the main hormone.

This is true. And this is why I am trying to find a way to treat baldness without resorting to HRT. I'm currently trying RU, but I'm pretty sure it won't work.

The last point doesn't matter. If you don't take HRT for your trans transition, no one will know.
It makes sense to take HRT if you are going bald, there is no other way to treat it and you cannot come to terms with it because hair is very important to you. No one can tell you what you need except yourself.

If going on HRT made sense due to balding then why is almost every man balding/bald? Have you even been outside? At least 50% of all men are balding. So no it most definately dont make sense. Most men just buzz it or shave it if they are balding and accept their genes that makes SENSE. It only makes sense in your mentally ill brain. Ur not the norm, you got serious self asteem problems and you would need therapy for that, I wish you luck.

 

[Almas_NW0]

If going on HRT made sense due to balding then why is almost every man balding/bald? Have you even been outside? At least 50% of all men are balding. So no it most definately dont make sense. Most men just buzz it or shave it if they are balding and accept their genes that makes SENSE. It only makes sense in your mentally ill brain. Ur not the norm, you got serious self asteem problems and you would need therapy for that, I wish you luck.

argumentum ad populum
At 30+ years old, it’s a shame to argue your opinion like this.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

argumentum ad populum
At 30+ years old, it’s a shame to argue your opinion like this.

You dating anyone boss?

 

[Almas_NW0]

Are you dating anyone?

Yes, her son is sitting in this thread.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

Yes, her son is sitting in this thread.

So you’re not dating anyone? Any prospects on tinder?

 

[monehair]

I remembered all the people in this thread, including Bridgeburn, who have tried HRT. I can't remember a single time where this made a guy look worse. I recently rewatched Bridgeburn's transformation and thought, "Damn, this is real looksmaxxing."

Really? Just a couple recent posts on /r/transtimelines:

- https://www.reddit.com/r/transtimelines/comments/1c35cqk/from_sad_guy_to_happy_girl
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https://www.reddit.com/r/transtimelines/comments/1c35rcp

- https://www.reddit.com/r/transtimelines/comments/1c2rrt9/47yo_mtf_3_months_to_3_months_on_hrt_been_loving

I don't want to be mean to any of them, but you can clearly see there is something off just looking at their skin. Something that doesn't fit the male looks (I guess they don't want to present male, you get what I mean). If they presented men, you wouldn't say "they improved their looks on HRT".

God, what a shitty bluepill. Yes, actions are important, but how does this negate the importance of a person's external attractiveness and how much it improves life?

You mean red pill? (In the sense that you have to accept losing looks.) I am just doubting altogether how much this state of "man on HRT" is improving life at all. But maybe you are so feminine / androgynous that you can pull it off, that's cool then. Very very few men can.

Hormones do not affect health in such a way that those diseases that are treated with T are not treated with E. In addition, we have women who live happily with E as the main hormone.

I am no expert on this and I don't think any of us knows enough about the endocrine system. I'll try anyway:

1) You are not a woman and women have more complex hormone system than just injecting E2.
2) If you are using AA then you might damage your liver (bica) or develop brain tumors (CPA). If you ever get drugs as an addition to that, you really have to disclose these as there may be whatever interactions involved.
3) If you don't remove your testicles and go on E mono, then you actually will have a higher level of estrogen than a cis woman would.
4) There is higher chance of developing testicle cancer if you are using hormones.
5) Blood clot risks will also be higher.

I really can't understand why you are not acknowledging the risks and think that this simply a choice.

Let's say you start to have testicle pain, where would you go? How would you solve that? Or if you suddenly have prostate issues and become incontinent, what would you do? These are not entirely unrealistic scenarios at all. The first response from any doctor would be to stop taking HRT immediately.

This is true. And this is why I am trying to find a way to treat baldness without resorting to HRT. I'm currently trying RU, but I'm pretty sure it won't work.

Yeah, I've read that. It is kinda insane what you are doing to your body. (Did you also try TRT, or was it Adri? I may confuse the two of you.)

It makes sense to take HRT if you are going bald, there is no other way to treat it and you cannot come to terms with it because hair is very important to you. No one can tell you what you need except yourself.

I do get that you may weigh in the options and decide for HRT. I am arguing that you cannot realistically remain a straight male and take HRT. You also seem to be very careless to me when it comes to health side.

I am honestly interested in your thoughts how you are doing that.

 

[Almas_NW0]

So you’re not dating anyone? Any prospects on tinder?

I have no problem meeting someone. I'm conventionally attractive. And I'm sure that without hair I wouldn't have a chance.

 

[Mr. Slap Head]

I have no problem meeting someone. I'm conventionally attractive. And I'm sure that without hair I wouldn't have a chance.

How many women are you currently dating?

 

[losingbattle88]

I have no problem meeting someone. I'm conventionally attractive. And I'm sure that without hair I wouldn't have a chance.

How many women are you currently dating?

Almas wears glasses and looks total beta and like a femboy. It makes sense that he is a bottom boy. I have seen a picture of him years ago.

 

[Almas_NW0]

Just a couple recent posts on /r/transtimelines:

Photos with filters and makeup. No skin is too good to suit a man.

1) You are not a woman and women have more complex hormone system than just injecting E2.
2) If you are using AA then you might damage your liver (bica) or develop brain tumors (CPA). If you ever get drugs as an addition to that, you really have to disclose these as there may be whatever interactions involved.
3) If you don't remove your testicles and go on E mono, then you actually will have a higher level of estrogen than a cis woman would.
4) There is higher chance of developing testicle cancer if you are using hormones.
5) Blood clot risks will also be higher.

I acknowledge some risks. They are insignificant and some of them are also possessed by cis women, who, as we know, do not experience sufficient health problems to live less than men. But I don't condone HRT. You know, a few years ago I said something like, «Who cares what the risks of HRT are if the risk of my life being ruined by baldness is 100%?» This reasoning explains a lot of what I and other people in this thread are doing.

Let's say you start to have testicle pain, where would you go? How would you solve that? Or if you suddenly have prostate issues and become incontinent, what would you do? These are not entirely unrealistic scenarios at all. The first response from any doctor would be to stop taking HRT immediately.

I thought about it. Yes, I am ready to temporarily stop hormones if the doctor asks me to. But it’s hard for me to imagine a situation in which the presence of estradiol in the body would interfere.

Yeah, I've read that. It is kinda insane what you are doing to your body.

Yes, now I'm on TRT. You are wrong to call this crazy, because there is nothing unnatural in my body when I inject T. Testosterone enanthate is identical to endogenous testosterone, and when I inject it, it is the same as if it were produced by my testicles.

I am arguing that you cannot realistically remain a straight male and take HRT.

I've been doing this for three years and can do it for another 30 years if necessary.

 

[monehair]

... are you serious? these people are all 40-50 years old and on hrt for 2 to 3 months. HRT hasn't even started working on them and it's over for them anyway at this age so it's not like it will change anything. They don't look 'uncanny' because of hrt, they look uncanny because they are old pervs dressing as women and putting on lipstick. The effects of hrt on young peoples faces that aren't perverted agp sex addicts just makes them look a few years younger and clears up their skin. The changes are not drastic unless you're on it for years

Second person is 34 and doesn't have much makeup. Their skin is also much clearer and this is why they look unusual.

So your point is then that you shouldn't take HRT after 20 or what?

 

[Almas_NW0]

How many women are you currently dating?

I don't have time for this now.

Almas wears glasses and looks total beta and like a femboy. It makes sense that he is a bottom boy. I have seen a picture of him years ago.

Now I don’t wear glasses - I had laser vision correction. I look like a twink. At my age this is normal.