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Adri23

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I'd start with reducing E2 dose. Probably gonna do the same. Corticoids aren't a joke, they might ruin you.
I'm def ruined atp, idk if it can make it worse haha
 

Adri23

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Tbh everything is bad after I killed my balls. It's like the typical scenario of androgen issues after orchiectomy( at the end of the day mine is like an orchi). Like I had high dht before but rest of androgens were good. Now everything is increasing(not by a lot tho still in range)
 

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IMO, orchi requires hard reset of everything. Take low dose of E, you don't even need more than 200pg/ml. And FK all AAs, there's noone i know who could manage on them more than 10years w/o any troubles, so they're the worst long time solution.
I lowered my E and feel so anxious. Like idk how to cope with this but I cant manage the anxiety lol. I will try to cope and see if it improves with days. Idk if bica at low dosages is causing this, but idk what would I do with minoxidil hypertrichosis if I stop bica
But again, I'm not the one to advise anything atp. =(
Neither I am. We are too fucked to even recommend anything cause nothing seems to work
 

Adri23

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It will with time, had the same issue.
Yeah. i also bought some phosphatidylserine, idk if it will work but I bought it because I've seen it recomended
Mb lower minoxidil dose? I'm not an expert in minoxidil tho..
Prolly. I will lose more hair but well my hair is terribly bad at this point.

Even with min I have this sh*t hair so...
 

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sg2000

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Ye, I also think that high E is bad for many reasons, especially if you have low aromatase enzyme like me (my aromatase was marked as poor on test) and Adri (and some others here too, although It happens to be a pretty rare disorder), because with low aromatase, your body is just not used to any significant doses of E, and all the RNA transciption that existed without E, will have to be recalibrated to have E as co-factor. And this is gonna be even more shocking to the system the later you start.
And indeed, thats true about corticosteroid-binding globulin and upregulated cortisol production as a result, furthermore E increases all the axis globulins including SHBG and the thyroid one (Thyroxine-Binding Globulin). This effect on all the globulins means that E can up(down)regulate tons of sh*t.
I'm honestly starting to believe that min-maxing (like in games) just doesn't work with living organisms, there's a very delicate balance, that can be easily broken if smth is blocked or elevated. If you block smth, you need to replace it with smth, if smth is elevated, smth else will be deficient or elevated.
In case of E (especially for ppl with bad aromatase), I think that high E just needs to be mediated with progestin (or prog), which helps with regulation of those globulins, as well as E-induced cell proliferation in some tissues. Moreover, high estrogen actually lowers progesterone, and imbalance in these hormones lead to improper functioning of the thyroid (and adrenal gland as a result).
by high E levels you mean more than 500 pg ml?
 

Adri23

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Very individual. I'd say 200-250 with bad aromatase and 300-350 in other cases. Overall, IMO, >350 is high.
Unironically I had best hair when I had 278 - 329pg/ml e2 at trough with a shbg level of 61-63 nmol/L. After my shbg spiked to 91+(even 120 sometimes) my hair started to get fucked pretty damn fast and very noticeable.
 
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