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Trent

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No its not essential, and nizoral wasn't actually used in the study, i believe it was neutrogena T-Gel. People on this forum like to use nizoral for two reasons: 1. if they are experiencing any type of the itching often associated with male pattern baldness, it helps relief that, thus the nice clean, anti-itch scalp = better regrowth. and 2. it has been theorized to have some anti-androgenic properties, and has been thought to aid in the hair loss treatment process.

If money is an issue for you, and your scalp is healthy and itch-free, you would probably be okay without nizoral. I, for example, haven't added it yet, mostly because the shampoos i am using right now are working quite well, and my scalp is very healthy and itch free. Without nizoral, propecia will still be very effective. If you really want to add it to your regimen, try only using it once a week, instead of three times, that would save you money and still give you a weekly "cleansing".
 
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How poor can you be?

Do you sell oranges by the side of the road?

Nizoral is a shampoo, it cost around £7 (UK) ($14 US) for a 120ml bottle which may last 2 or 3 months depending on how often you use it.

ketoconazole in suppresses the production of DHT in the scalp and it's a shampoo, to me that is a miracle, I embrace it with open arms.
 

ryangern

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you do not need a prescription to get nizoral i got mine from cvs pharmacy they are everywhere just ordered offline for just 9.99 its a trusted us pharmacy with actual stores everywhere
 

GourmetStyleWellness

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And 1% is more than enough for everyone.

And I would say yes, Nizoral is a mandatory part of every regimen.

1) Because its the only shampoo that really can help treat hair loss, and its easily incorporated into an existing regimen of shampooing.
2) Because its the best shampoo for handling the inflammation issue that must be controlled as part of male pattern baldness, even if its not detectable.

gourmetstylewellness.com
 
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And 1% is more than enough for everyone.

gourmetstylewellness.com, do you think Ketoconazole (when using it to supress the formation of DHT in the scalp) would not be dose dependent?

If it is not, why is a 2% concentration produced?

I am not so sure it is even that easy to get 1% in the UK?, 2% is in pretty much every chemist.

Curious


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misterium

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BlueGuy: Nizoral is different than T-Gel because Nizoral contains Ketoconazole the active ingredient which kills off fungus, and also has been shown to decrease DHT production in the scalp, similiar to minoxidil 2% (that's the common belief).... reduces dandruff, takes away itch too.

T-Gel contains coal tar.. good for scalp health but not as beneficial as nizoral for most male pattern baldness guys... also good for dandruff and itch, but not shown to reduce DHT like nizoral.
 

fallicule

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Different ingredients: Nizoral is ketoconazole 1 and 2%; i forget what T-Gel is. Ketoconazole has been proven very effective for its antifungal properties -- moreson than T-Gel. T-Gel is good though, it's a good substitute for your days off Nizoral (you cant use it everyday). There's a couple of abstracts out there on ketoconazole, Google them if you wish. I'm too lazy to look them up.

Ah, I see that question was answered as I was typing this.

Disregard.
 

Jeff71913

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Coal Tar Shampoos:

Too many people underestimate T-Gel and other coal tar based shampoos. Not only do they control many undesireable symptoms, but they, "coal tar shampoos", will make your hair look much better.
 

Felk

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My question: Should you use 1% or 2%? Ive been using 2% but i've heard you should switch to 1% after a while. Or should you just always use 2%?

And how do you use nizoral with T/Gel? Nizoral 2X per week and T/Gel every other day?
 

jumpedthegun

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scribe99,
To answer your question, No you do not need to use nizoral for propecia to be effective. Whether you add it to your regime is personal choice.

Many people find Nizoral to be very beneficial for their scalp irritation and dandruff. Personally, I find that Nizoral makes my scalp more irritated and flaky. However, I still use it once and a while, like every 2 weeks or so, for the anti-fungal properties.

There is also some science that it helps male pattern baldness, even if only theoretically.

So, go buy a bottle at the drugstore for 10 bucks and give it a shot to see how it works for you. There's really nothing to lose. Surely don't let cost get in the way (I've been on the same bottle for 5 months).
 

The Gardener

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Scribe -

Nizoral used to leave my hair "dried out" feeling too. My hairstylist suggested that the dryness might not actually be dryness, but it might be buildup on my hair that was making it feel coarse and straw-like.

He suggested I drop the moisturizing shampoos (which were, in fact, adding MORE buildup on the hair and making it feel weighed down and even worse) and instead try an occasional cycling of a clarifying or anti-buildup shampoo. He suggested Joico "Resolve" Chelating shampoo, and it worked beautifully! My hair did NOT need moisturizing, it needed to be cleansed thouroughly of the buildups that were making it feel dry and coarse.
 
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