Finasteride 2.5 Months Not Good. Hairline Much Worse

Jeju

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@Harv I just compared the first picture from March and the first picture from Friday - your hair is getting better. Make sure you keep us updated with your success please.
 

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@Harv I just compared the first picture from March and the first picture from Friday - your hair is getting better. Make sure you keep us updated with your success please.

I agree. The small hairs along the hairline are more numerous and darker and longer.
 

Harv

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@Jeju the hairs you see along the hairline is just wispy regrowth at the moment before they were thick. Not a success but will keep you updated at the 6th month mark
 

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hi to anyone that is still following.
if you been reading my thread you will know i had a bad inital reaction to finasteride, anyways its been around 8 months now since ive been on generic finasteride and 6 months on advodart. I have been taking advodart in the morning and finasteride in the evenining whilst applying minoxidil aswell.
The scalp inflammation and tingling sensation along with the shedding had completely gone for the past few months which was great however my hair was not showing signs of regrowth and my scalp was very dry, no sebum was being produced. In addition my sex drive was also very high and alot of sperm was being produced, i had my blood tests done to see what was going on and my serum testoerone was very high, which i assume was because the dht was being supressed and getting converted to Testerone.

Anyways as its well known on here duta&fina are from same family of drugs so there was not much point to continue with both and as duta is meant to be much more potent than fina so i decided to drop fina 3 days ago.
Its been 3 days now since ive dropped fina and coincendtally my libido went straight down and im producing less sperm (clearly it was the fina that was shooting up my testosterone). My scalp feels less dry and more oily and the tingling/inflammation is starting to return along with the shedding although nothing as bad as it was in the beggining.
So this is what i dont understand, if duta is stronger and inhibits more dht then fina why when i dropped fina and switched to duta it feels like the dht has come back?(Bare in mind ive been on advodart for 6 months which is considered enough time for it to start working)
 

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as you've been told its very early, but in the meantime, you can check (and exclude) other issues that can lead to hair loss, like severe lack of minerals or vitamin, thyroid problems, depression, other medications, severe lack of dopamine/serotonine etc..
 

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as you've been told its very early, but in the meantime, you can check (and exclude) other issues that can lead to hair loss, like severe lack of minerals or vitamin, thyroid problems, depression, other medications, severe lack of dopamine/serotonine etc..

its dht.
 

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so, you're good to go
just check your hormones levels before and during anti androgens use.
about what you "feel", if we're talking about libido, that could be because T is pushed by inib. of 90 % of dth serum by duta.
unfortunately, it will pass, the timing depends of you aromatase enzyme and (according to some) your neurosteroids allopregnolone inhibition.
just check your levels and trust your guts.
 

Harv

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so, you're good to go
just check your hormones levels before and during anti androgens use.
about what you "feel", if we're talking about libido, that could be because T is pushed by inib. of 90 % of dth serum by duta.
unfortunately, it will pass, the timing depends of you aromatase enzyme and (according to some) your neurosteroids allopregnolone inhibition.
just check your levels and trust your guts.

i was mainly asking why dropping fina has caused the dht to come back when im still on advodart and have been for 6 months
 

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unlesss taking both drugs makes a more potent form of suppresing dht and when i dropped fina supressing the dht has been less effective with just duta, but i dont think logically makes sense as they both do the same thing and the study says when duta is added to fina there was an improvement not the other way round therefore its just showing that duta strength overrides finas.
my scalp genuinly feels more oily and tingling and more hair falling out now and it dosent make sense why it should. i dont really want to jump back on fina as it shoots up my T and makes me urinate more.
how could fina work and duta not
 
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They are the same family, but they are not the same and they do not do the same thing. It’s like saying taking two different opiates are the same. Regardless, fact is that your body is used to both, it’s going to have to adapt to one. It’s a wise decision, but you’re going to have to adapt to the change.

Even if they were the same, how could you not expect consequences to effectively reducing a dose? If you take 2x the dose of a given medication for months then suddenly cut it in half, of course it’s going to cause issues. Even if it turns out you only needed a single dose to begin with your body would have been accustomed to two...

You can’t take a drug that potent for a long period of time and not expect adverse effects upon quitting cold turkey. Duta May have hid those had you started it at the time you quit, but because you’ve been taking them together it won’t.
 
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Harv

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They are the same family, but they are not the same and they do not do the same thing. It’s like saying taking two different opiates are the same. Regardless, fact is that your body is used to both, it’s going to have to adapt to one. It’s a wise decision, but you’re going to have to adapt to the change.

Even if they were the same, how could you not expect consequences to effectively reducing a dose? If you take 2x the dose of a given medication for months then suddenly cut it in half, of course it’s going to cause issues. Even if it turns out you only needed a single dose to begin with your body would have been accustomed to two...

You can’t take a drug that potent for a long period of time and not expect adverse effects upon quitting cold turkey. Duta May have hid those had you started it at the time you quit, but because you’ve been taking them together it won’t.

That makes sense actually, however many people have documented on here that when they switch from fina to duta they do a 'loading phase' of taking duta for a few months so they take them in conbination for a while but none of them were worried that when they dropped fina it would be ×2 less potent
Logically i thought if duta stops 95% of dht i should be ok dropping fina, but maybe months of use taking it together wasnt a good idea to drop it.
What do you think my best course of action to take is? will my body most likely be ok with just duta now?
 
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