Finasteride As A Preemptive Measure Just In Case

[Seeker988]

Im a 23 year old male. I've been told my almost everyone over here that I don't have male pattern baldness and also by 2 dermatologists. But somewhere I do have a lingering doubt that maybe,just maybe there is male pattern baldness lurking somewhere and it might manifest itself any time. I don't wanna cry later in my life thinking that I could've taken things in control when I had the time. So my questions are

1) Is it wise to take finasteride in a "just in case" scenario?
2) if it is,whats the dosage I should start with?
3) How long should I continue taking it?
4) Any long term propecia users?? Would love to have some input from experienced propecia users(5+ years)
5) what should I expect the progress or the ideal outcomes to look like over the subsequent months?

 

[buckthorn]

no. the f*** is wrong with you man? get your sh*t together.

 

[Seeker988]

no. the f*** is wrong with you man? get your sh*t together.

My temple points have gone and they have receded a bit back. I don't want to play it out just thinking that it's a mature hairline. I have heard of a guy named dave over here who's taken finasteride in the just in case scenario. He turned out fine didn't he??

 

[buckthorn]

I have heard of a guy named dave over here who's taken finasteride in the just in case scenario. He turned out fine didn't he??

no, he's dead

 

[Seeker988]

no, he's dead

I don't want to irk you or anyone over here at all. I just want to make sure that I'm doing atleast something to tackle male pattern baldness even if it manifests itself at a later point in my life. You can check my most recent thread and you'll realise that I do have a genuine concern. The last thing I want from a hairloss forum is being considered as an outcast and being not offered help and advise.

 

[buckthorn]

My temple points have gone and they have receded a bit back. I don't want to play it out just thinking that it's a mature hairline. I have heard of a guy named dave over here who's taken finasteride in the just in case scenario. He turned out fine didn't he??

despite what anyone says, finasteride is a hardcore drug. I would NEVER consider it a "just in case" drug. You have to make 100% sure you have male pattern baldness. please, just wait until it progresses a little bit further, if it does at all. If everyone is telling you that you currently have no loss, then you probably have very minimal or no loss... just wait it out for another year or so. Additionally, finasteride is not preventative for everyone. Several posters on here, including myself have experienced a very, very drastic increase in male pattern baldness and scalp inflammation from taking it. I lost five years worth of hair in 10 months on it. just wait it out.

 

[buckthorn]

I don't want to irk you or anyone over here at all. I just want to make sure that I'm doing atleast something to tackle male pattern baldness even if it manifests itself at a later point in my life. You can check my most recent thread and you'll realise that I do have a genuine concern. The last thing I want from a hairloss forum is being considered as an outcast and being not offered help and advise.

then get on minoxidil.

 

[Seeker988]

I find the idea of taking a pill and forgetting about it much more appealing than applying minoxidil and having to look at my hair everyday . What about oral minoxidil?

 

[buckthorn]

What about oral minoxidil?

hell no!! are you researching these things? convenience should be the LAST priority on your list when it comes to hair loss drugs. Oral minoxidil can kill you or give you serious cardiovascular problems. finasteride is considered generally safe, but can drastically alter your hormones and cause a slue of problems.

 

[Seeker988]

hell no!! are you researching these things? convenience should be the LAST priority on your list when it comes to hair loss drugs. Oral minoxidil can kill you or give you serious cardiovascular problems. finasteride is considered generally safe, but can drastically alter your hormones and cause a slue of problems.

f*** this male pattern baldness and f*** this f*****g anxiety that ensues because of it. If you've got the time,would you please take a look at https://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/interact/posts/1619466/ and see if I should take finasteride ??I can definitely say that I've lost my juvenile hairline but I cant play gamble and dismiss it as just a mature hairline. I would start microdosing to f*** this dht affecting my follicles if need be,depending on the responses I get from here.

 

[Seeker988]

Anybody see miniaturization?? I've oiled my hair with copious amounts

 

[Seeker988]

Bump

 

[Seeker988]

Finasteride is not a hardcore drug, its frequency of occurrence of ADRs are extremely low and they subside if you stop taking the drug. These stories of permanent sterility and complete loss of libido are not based on any scientific knowledge, if they were the FDA would change the drugs safety profile, the FDA wont just not mention that to be nice to the MA holder.

Your hair looks good, you dont need to start finasteride as of yet, but keep an eye on it, go see a derma if youre not sure and he'll give you a prescription if needs be.

I've been to a derm and he said I'm not balding after checking it with a dermascope. But my temple points have gone if you check my thread (I've posted the link a in a msg above) and that's what's worrying me .I don't wanna dismiss it for some bullshit mature hairline fairytale.

 

[hairfertilizer]

Any doctor who prescribes Propecia without telling the following is either misinformed or just doesn't care;

... leading to a host of adverse effects, including loss of or reduced libido, erectile dysfunction, orgasmic dysfunction, increased high Gleason grade prostate cancer, observed heart failure and cardiovascular events in clinical trials, and depression. Considerable evidence exists from preclinical and clinical studies, which point to significant and serious adverse effects of 5α-RIs, finasteride and dutasteride, on sexual health, vascular health, psychological health and the overall quality of life.

These findings, together with the previously reported data from pre-clinical studies point out to serious adverse effects of finasteride and dutasteride on the anatomy, physiology and cell biology of erectile function (Table 1) and suggest that the effects of these drugs may be persistent or irreversible.

Finasteride treatment resulted in decreased levels of 5α-DHT and 3α, 5α-tetrahydroprogesterone (AP) and increased levels of testosterone supporting the hypothesis that deleterious effects of finasteride may be persistent or irreversible. This may explain some of the noted symptoms such as anxiety, depression and suicide in patients who have been treated with finasteride [76].

A statistically significant correlation was observed between use of finasteride and depressive symptoms [98]. Persistent side effects have been noted even after discontinuation of finasteride treatment [76] from 3 months to 11 years, suggesting that the adverse effects of finasteride may be permanent [97].

These include loss or reduced libido, erectile dysfunction, orgasmic and ejaculatory dysfunction (Table 2) [99], development of high grade PCa tumors (Fig. 4), potential negative cardiovascular events, and depression. The side effects are potentially harmful in some individuals and in young men may be persistent or irreversible [100].

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4064044/

 

[Seeker988]

Any doctor who prescribes Propecia without telling the following is either misinformed or just doesn't care;

Everyone over here is aware of the risks of the side effects of finasteride.

 

[INT]

Finasteride is not a hardcore drug

Bombing 70% of your most potent androgen > not hardcore? Ok...

 

[Seeker988]

It arises a low rate for ADR occurrence, ADRs are not serious and are reversible on halting treatment with the drug. I was on it for 2 years, and like most people had no sides. If you think finasteride is considered a hardcore drug than you have little knowledge of other drugs on the market, its very weak compared to other Anti androgens let alone other actual hardcore drugs.

So do you feel I should take it judging by my pics in the thread link that I've posted above?

 

[INT]

It arises a low rate for ADR occurrence, ADRs are not serious and are reversible on halting treatment with the drug. I was on it for 2 years, and like most people had no sides. If you think finasteride is considered a hardcore drug than you have little knowledge of other drugs on the market, its very weak compared to other Anti androgens let alone other actual hardcore drugs.

You are playing word games and you overgeneralize personal anecdotes. Sure I might not have a lot of knowledge of other drugs, but I do have a lot of knowledge about finasteride.

 

[g.i joey]

It's safe because realistically ED won't kill you, nor is it documented as causing life threatening issues down the line. So yes, generally in the medicall world I'm sure finasteride is a "safe drug".... to those who suffer sides well.... did you die bro?!

 

[hairfertilizer]

I think finasteride should only be taken orally if you have a life threatening condition. Look at the finasteride paper I referenced to in the earlier post and count the number of times the words "persistent, irreversible and permanent" appear in the paper. The drug is potent down to 0.05mg oral, that has been documented. And taking 0.2mg has the same effect as taking 1mg. We know the drug lowers DHT to castration levels, we know it causes sexual and mental problems. All documented and proven as statistically significant.