Finasteride

[Humpty Dumpty]

Finasteride can't be prescribed to women of child bearing age in the UK because of its potential risks to male foetuses. At the same time, my doctor is talking about putting me on Oral Spironoloctane, another anti-androgen which apparently carries similar risks. Does anyone know whether this a higher risk associated with women using finasteride than there is with spironolactone, Roactetene (sic!) or any other anti-androgen regularly prescribed to young women? Because its sounds purely arbitrary to me at the moment and as such, am inclined to disregard this advice.

 

[mayalopecia]

Spironolactone and finasteride carry the same risk. The risk is not to the woman, but to male fetuses, as you mentioned. Roaccutane is significantly more harmful than either anti-androgen. (Ro)Accutane affects cell division, and always always always causes serious birth defects. Here is a link to more information: http://www.rocheusa.com/products/accutane/

I agree that the logic preventing women from taking finasteride seems spurious. It is more likely that the makers of propecia and proscar, Merck, did not want the liability entailed by these potential harmful effects, and so the drug is not available for women. Spironolactone escapes this blockage most likely because of its use as an anti-hypertensive drug, allowing doctors to skirt the anti-androgen issue. However, it is still possible, at least in the US, for women to obtain prescriptions for finasteride, though many physicans are reluctant to do so.

-maya

 

[Humpty Dumpty]

Well, I'm about to start taking it. Eagerly awaiting the onslaught of "erectile dysfunction". Why should men be the ones who get to have all the fun? :lol:

 

[Guest]

Hey Humpty Dumpty,

Did you get a prescription for Propecia, or did you order it online? If you got a prescription, what kind of Doctor did it for you? It is usually extremely hard for a woman to get a prescription. Just curious.

Let us know how it works out!

Laura

 

[Humpty Dumpty]

Alas! the only thing available in this country for female baldness is 2% minoxidil. So I had to order it online, which I was loath to do, since it could be sawdust, or glow-in-the-dark-nuclear-waste - a fine look on some I'm told, but not one I'm particularly keen to cultivate myself. But it was either that or oral Spironoloctane, which they were willing to prescribe. I couldn't see the point in that, since it carries similar risks to finasteride, and I've already been told its the same mechanism at work in male baldness that's responsible for my predicament.

Say, are we allowed to post in the men's forum? They're having a discussion about whether they'd ever date a "balding chick" and some litte runts have just said (and I quote) "I wouldnt ever date one, i may bone one if they had a hot body but i could never bring her out in public.",..."I'd make her buy toppik, teach her how to use it, then measure the results. If her tits were still big, I'd go for it.".

 

[Guest]

Hey Humpty,

I really gotta run but I really want to respond to your post!

Anyway let me know how the online Propecia turns out. I HATED oral spironolactone, it gave me REALLY REALLY bad heartburn, so much so that I was bedridden.

As for that thread, go ahead, post in there, I have much to say about it too. :evil: Lets bombard them with OUR opinion! Heh.

I'll post again later, gotta run!

Laura

 

[Stinger122]

Im from the male forum, im sure you are welcome to post in the male forums.. As a lot of the blokes from the male forums do post in the female section of the site!

Personally I have heard Propeca wont do much for a woman.. But if I was you, make sure you do your research on it! Pop in the male forum and ask over there.. Im sure somebody will be able to give you more advice than I..

Im sorry about the little conversation that is going on in the male forum, I did not participate because I do believe some of the stuff they came out with was quite harsh..

Hope this helps

Take care!

 

[Guest]

>>>Personally I have heard Propeca wont do much for a woman.. But if I was you, make sure you do your research on it! Pop in the male forum and ask over there.. Im sure somebody will be able to give you more advice than I..

Yes, I've heard this too and am a little sceptical. My understanding of propecia is that in works by inhibiting the conversion of 5 A-R to DHT, and that male baldness occurs in men with normal (or below normal) androgen levels. Well, I have normal androgen levels and have been told my Androgenetic Alopecia is owing to the same hormonal pathway as with men, ie, hypersensitivty to DHT. So if finasteride blocks this conversion I can't see why such a mechanism should be gender specific. My philosophy is 'try and see'. Barring the growth of a third leg, I'm prepared to give it a go. If sticking my head in pigswill would do the trick, I'd be there in a shot.

>>>Im sorry about the little conversation that is going on in the male forum, I did not participate because I do believe some of the stuff they came out with was quite harsh..

Oh don't worry about me: I'm as tough as old boots. If I thought balding were the price one had to pay to avoid the dubious pleasure of being "boned" by Redbone (surely a fate worse than death?), I'd shave the whole lot off tomorrow. :lol:

 

[Jack_the_Lad]

>>>Personally I have heard Propeca wont do much for a woman.. But if I was you, make sure you do your research on it! Pop in the male forum and ask over there.. Im sure somebody will be able to give you more advice than I..

Yes, I've heard this too and am a little sceptical. My understanding of propecia is that in works by inhibiting the conversion of 5 A-R to DHT, and that male baldness occurs in men with normal (or below normal) androgen levels. Well, I have normal androgen levels and have been told my Androgenetic Alopecia is owing to the same hormonal pathway as with men, ie, hypersensitivty to DHT. So if finasteride blocks this conversion I can't see why such a mechanism should be gender specific. My philosophy is 'try and see'. Barring the growth of a third leg, I'm prepared to give it a go. If sticking my head in pigswill would do the trick, I'd be there in a shot.

Well it's my first time popping into the female discussion forum! might aswell since a few gals came over the other direction, I became curious.

First of all: womens hairloss is similar to mens hair loss, in that it's hair follicles sensitive to hair loss. Women also have all the same hormones that men have except that the androgen and testosterone levels are much lower in women. From my understanding it's the hormonal changes that can spring hair loss in women, and the pattern is more diffuse than a mans hairloss. generally speaking hair loss occurs in women later in life than in men.
I would recommend to read about womens hair loss at the start of this web site to gain some basic and usefull knowledge. I've included the link below

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/research/women/

all the best Jack

>>>Im sorry about the little conversation that is going on in the male forum, I did not participate because I do believe some of the stuff they came out with was quite harsh..

Oh don't worry about me: I'm as tough as old boots. If I thought balding were the price one had to pay to avoid the dubious pleasure of being "boned" by Redbone (surely a fate worse than death?), I'd shave the whole lot off tomorrow. :lol:

 

[Jack_the_Lad]

>>>Personally I have heard Propeca wont do much for a woman.. But if I was you, make sure you do your research on it! Pop in the male forum and ask over there.. Im sure somebody will be able to give you more advice than I..

Yes, I've heard this too and am a little sceptical. My understanding of propecia is that in works by inhibiting the conversion of 5 A-R to DHT, and that male baldness occurs in men with normal (or below normal) androgen levels. Well, I have normal androgen levels and have been told my Androgenetic Alopecia is owing to the same hormonal pathway as with men, ie, hypersensitivty to DHT. So if finasteride blocks this conversion I can't see why such a mechanism should be gender specific. My philosophy is 'try and see'. Barring the growth of a third leg, I'm prepared to give it a go. If sticking my head in pigswill would do the trick, I'd be there in a shot.

Well it's my first time popping into the female discussion forum! might aswell since a few gals came over the other direction, I became curious.

First of all: womens hairloss is similar to mens hair loss, in that it's hair follicles sensitive to hair loss. Women also have all the same hormones that men have except that the androgen and testosterone levels are much lower in women. From my understanding it's the hormonal changes that can spring hair loss in women, and the pattern is more diffuse than a mans hairloss. generally speaking hair loss occurs in women later in life than in men.
I would recommend to read about womens hair loss at the start of this web site to gain some basic and usefull knowledge. I've included the link below

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/research/women/

all the best Jack

>>>Im sorry about the little conversation that is going on in the male forum, I did not participate because I do believe some of the stuff they came out with was quite harsh..

Oh don't worry about me: I'm as tough as old boots. If I thought balding were the price one had to pay to avoid the dubious pleasure of being "boned" by Redbone (surely a fate worse than death?), I'd shave the whole lot off tomorrow. :lol:

 

[Jack_the_Lad]

two posts above keep giving m the wrong quotes, never mind I got it right this time

Well it's my first time popping into the female discussion forum! might aswell since a few gals came over the other direction, I became curious.

First of all: womens hairloss is similar to mens hair loss, in that it's hair follicles sensitive to hair loss. Women also have all the same hormones that men have except that the androgen and testosterone levels are much lower in women. From my understanding it's the hormonal changes that can spring hair loss in women, and the pattern is more diffuse than a mans hairloss. generally speaking hair loss occurs in women later in life than in men.
I would recommend to read about womens hair loss at the start of this web site to gain some basic and usefull knowledge. I've included the link below

http://www.gourmetstylewellness.com/research/women/

all the best Jack

>>>Im sorry about the little conversation that is going on in the male forum, I did not participate because I do believe some of the stuff they came out with was quite harsh..

Oh don't worry about me: I'm as tough as old boots. If I thought balding were the price one had to pay to avoid the dubious pleasure of being "boned" by Redbone (surely a fate worse than death?), I'd shave the whole lot off tomorrow. :lol:[/quote]

 

[lentara]

Don't know about the other ladies but I appreciate you guys "popping" over here to offer advice.

 

[Rozzy252]

Yes I like it when the guys offer advice too....it always seems to be more fast paced and more guys on in their forum....its pretty quiet here on the ladies side

 

[Guest]

Yes I like it when the guys offer advice too....it always seems to be more fast paced and more guys on in their forum....its pretty quiet here on the ladies side

Well given the maturity level often seen over on our side, you may prefer the quiet life!! :hairy: