First time posting - a couple of questions

[Mr T.]

Hello everyone. I've been reading this forum for a couple weeks. This is my first time posting. Basically, I'm a 22 year old bloke who has been losing his hair for the past 4 years or so. Mainly temple recession and crown thinning - the typical male pattern baldness situation. I'm considering a regimen of minoxidil, propecia, and nizoral. I'm a little bit iffy on the propecia though and might use a topical dht inhibitor in its place, maybe crinagen or something along those lines.

So here are my questions:

1) Looking through the threads, I've come across some reports of permanent side effects from Propecia (specifically sexual problems and gynecomastia). Now, Merck says that any side effects will go away when you get off the drug. So there seems to be some sort of discrepancy here? Now, I'm not really concerned about any side effects, just want to make sure they go away if I decide they're too much and I don't want to be on the drug. Do you guys think these blokes with the sexual side effects after stopping Propecia are just imagining these symptoms, or do you think it's real? As for the gyno, I know that's pretty serious too, but at least there's the surgery option if it gets out of control.

2) There doesn't seem to be too much feedback, one way or the other, about Revivogen, Crinagen, Xandrox, and other topical DHT blockers. Is there anyone reading this who has had experience with any of these things, positive or not? Crinagen looks pretty good - a lot cheaper than Revivogen, which looks to be the same thing - so I was considering this as an alternative if I opt not to make the Propecia plunge.

Thanks for any advice mates. Keep fighting the battle.

Jeremy

 

[KO_thomas]

So here are my questions:

1) Looking through the threads, I've come across some reports of permanent side effects from Propecia (specifically sexual problems and gynecomastia). Now, Merck says that any side effects will go away when you get off the drug. So there seems to be some sort of discrepancy here? Now, I'm not really concerned about any side effects, just want to make sure they go away if I decide they're too much and I don't want to be on the drug. Do you guys think these blokes with the sexual side effects after stopping Propecia are just imagining these symptoms, or do you think it's real? As for the gyno, I know that's pretty serious too, but at least there's the surgery option if it gets out of control.

Jeremy

In the small percentage of people (2%) that get side-effects from propecia, they most often will go away after a few weeks, and always go away after stopping the drug. I imagine some people may get the side-effects because they are more prone to or have higher estrogen levels to begin with, But most people don't experience any sides at all while on propecia.

 

[KO_thomas]

2) There doesn't seem to be too much feedback, one way or the other, about Revivogen, Crinagen, Xandrox, and other topical DHT blockers. Is there anyone reading this who has had experience with any of these things, positive or not? Crinagen looks pretty good - a lot cheaper than Revivogen, which looks to be the same thing - so I was considering this as an alternative if I opt not to make the Propecia plunge.

I've heard of some people having results with those you mentioned, but nothing phenominal, none of them have any scientific proof behind the products. I would at least try out propecia, who knows it may work great for you, and combine it with a topical like minoxidil or even xandrox.

 

[Mr T.]

In the small percentage of people (2%) that get side-effects from propecia, they most often will go away after a few weeks, and always go away after stopping the drug. I imagine some people may get the side-effects because they are more prone to or have higher estrogen levels to begin with, But most people don't experience any sides at all while on propecia.

Thanks for the reply mate.

So you think these reports of Propecia causing problems months after stopping the drug are bogus then? Because Merck says they should go away, but some people here are apparently saying otherwise.

Cheers.

Jeremy

 

[Mr T.]

I've heard of some people having results with those you mentioned, but nothing phenominal, none of them have any scientific proof behind the products. I would at least try out propecia, who knows it may work great for you, and combine it with a topical like minoxidil or even xandrox.

You mean scientific proof in the form of clinical trials? Because I've heard that Revivogen and Crinagen, even though they don't have any clinical trial data backing them up, still have scientific proof of their individual ingredients - such as zinc, b6, fatty acids like GLA, etc. I guess that's not as good as clinical trials, but still better than nothing.

What do the rest of you guys say then? Anyone out there have good (or bad) results with any of these topical DHT blockers?

Jeremy

 

[KO_thomas]

So you think these reports of Propecia causing problems months after stopping the drug are bogus then? Because Merck says they should go away, but some people here are apparently saying otherwise.

If the side-effects they reported don't go away a couple months after discontinuing use, the underlying cause for these more than likely is do to something else not the propecia. It may seem like so many people are having side effects, (like on this forum for ex.) but you have to remember that this is a very small number of the thousands of people taking propecia. A lot of the people that are having success with the drug quite coming on to this forum, and you never here about the positive things. All you here about is the very small percentage of guys that are having some problems with it, and come on here to piss and moan about it.

 

[KO_thomas]

You mean scientific proof in the form of clinical trials?

Yes

Because I've heard that Revivogen and Crinagen, even though they don't have any clinical trial data backing them up, still have scientific proof of their individual ingredients - such as zinc, b6, fatty acids like GLA, etc. I guess that's not as good as clinical trials, but still better than nothing.

I would first start off with with the big 3 (propecia, nizoral, and minoxidil), and see how that goes, you could always add later on revivogen, crinagen or folligen ect. to supplement your regimen. Xandrox is also a good choice, instead of regular minoxidil, i've heard a lot of good things about it.

 

[MrTelogen]

Another Mr T hu? Interesting. :?

 

[hopewas]

that's right fool. you ate my cheetos

 

[Mr T.]

Thanks for the replies KO. They're much appreciated. Who's the bloke in your avatar btw?

I'd like to get feed-back from some more people. Anyone else want to share their opinions concerning the 2 questions I asked back in my original post?

Thanks lads. Cheers.

Jeremy