Foam or Liquid nonsense...

[chancer]

The foam or liquid nonsense.... surely is just that... nonsense!!!

becuase if you think about it with common sense... what do you have

a 5% minoxidil effective treatemnt that is either liquid or foam...

take hairstyling as an example....

Hairspray or mouse? they both have the same agents in it, they both hold you hair in place.

5% foam should work as effective as 5% liquid, why should one work better than the other? they both have the same vital ingrediant at the same strength in. foam is just easier to apply if you have short hair, if you have long hair you may want liquid to get to the scalp better.... thats it surely?

 

[Nathaniel]

I have done both, same results. I have no idea why they start blaming one or the other being worse.

 

[jared_24]

No, it is not nonsense.

I started using the liquid back in 2000 and got some fairly decent results. I then switched to foam in 2006 and ended up losing all the hair liquid had originally regrew. It did absolutely f**k all for my hair and although it was easier to apply, it ended up being a total waste of money.

Earlier this year I switched back to the liquid and luckily enough, my hair is starting to regrow.

I'm sure there are numerous theories as to why the Foam is not as effective as the liquid.... me personally I believe it *may* have something to with lack of absorption in to the scalp (i.e. Once rogaine has been applied - it takes a good 60-80 mins for the liquid to dry up, however the foam seems to evaporate/dry up within 5 mins...)

Whatever the reason behind it, I am on of those which the foam has NOT been successful for, and have seen with my own eyes the results from both.

(PS. Even though the liquid was more effective than the foam, I HATE the messy/greasy stuff and would much rather be using the foam!!!)

 

[Pereira]

No, it is not nonsense.

I started using the liquid back in 2000 and got some fairly decent results. I then switched to foam in 2006 and ended up losing all the hair liquid had originally regrew. It did absolutely f**k all for my hair and although it was easier to apply, it ended up being a total waste of money.

Earlier this year I switched back to the liquid and luckily enough, my hair is starting to regrow.

like my story. began treatment with liquid, great improvement. switched to foam and exactly what you said.
I'm now on liquid again, hoping to recover..

I'm not a foam hater, we have in this forum, people with huge sucess with foam. But not everyone's scalp reacts the same way, for me foam didn't work. for some do work.

 

[metalheaddude]

I think if you start with liquid you should stick with liquid and if you start with foam you should stick with foam. Its this switching between products where people seem to get into trouble. Granted its both minoxidil but they are slightly different products, a bit like different brands of tomato sauce or ice cream. Some your body likes more, others you dont.

 

[hair today gone tomorrow]

I think if you start with liquid you should stick with liquid and if you start with foam you should stick with foam. Its this switching between products where people seem to get into trouble. Granted its both minoxidil but they are slightly different products, a bit like different brands of tomato sauce or ice cream. Some your body likes more, others you dont.

wtf

 

[Kiem]

I am also one of those guy who started off with liquid then switched to foam and lost alot of hair, as a result. From family history I knew to jump onto Finasteride and minoxidil as soon as I saw any shedding so I was able to keep most of my hair for the last 9 years (started when I was 19). I wonder if it is because I still have alot of hair (norwood2) so therefore the foam was unbale to penatrate as well as the liquid. While I was shedding I started to think that the 1/4 proscar was losing it effectiveness since I have been on it for so long. Then when I was researching about Proscar losing effectiveness, it was when I ran into all these negative posts about foam so I immediately jumped back onto liquid. I will report back in few month if things improve. For me the foam was totally useless, and I attribute it to lack of assorbtion , BTW I did massage it into my scalp and did not wear it like mouse.

 

[Timi]

Kiem

thats wrong

Foam is stronger and you have become a New shedding
Foam works better as the Liquid

Timi

 

[philly]

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[Kiem]

Kiem

thats wrong

Foam is stronger and you have become a New shedding
Foam works better as the Liquid

Timi

Nope, with foam the shedding started around the first few months but it was not too noticeble so I stuck with the treatment. It has been a total of 1.2 years of FOAM and gradual thinning of the hairline and crown. Before FOAM, when I started with liquid I shed for the first few months then saw very good improvements around 6-7 month period and maintained very well. Foam has been utterly useless for me, i truly believe the foam has a lower absorbation rate especially if you still have majority of your hair, which blocks it from penetrating. All I gotta say is if you started with Foam, and it works, stick with it and the same with liquid , don't jump back and fourth for conveniance and here-say.

 

[Timi]

http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00151515

Timi

 

[jared_24]

Timi - there are also clinical studies showing dutasteride is very effective against male pattern baldness.... does that mean dutasteride works for everybody?

 

[philly]

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[beaner]

http://clinicaltrials.gov/show/NCT00151515

Timi

Yes Timi, this study PROVES the foam is *almost* useless!

Yet you continue to recommend it to people. Why is that philly if you feel that way? Do you flip a coin in the morning?

 

[JWM]

Why does that study prove the foam is almost worthless?

 

[philly]

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[DoctorHouse]

I think some people may get a shed more on the foam because they may use more than half a cap full. With the liquid, you can measure exactly how much you use. Secondly, after starting a NEW type of treatment, shedding is SUPPOSEDLY a sign the treatment is working. I think you need to use only a tiny little amount of the foam because it absorbs so well and quickly. I used the foam for almost a year and I had a bad shed but I think it was because I used slightly too much. I stopped using it 2 times daily for about a year and I think maybe it was working better than I thought. My hair did recover from the shed but my hairline seems like it did not as well but it could have been because I went to once a day. The problem is you read from people like Dr Rassman who will tell you minoxidil does not have any effect on healthy hairs. Yet when you start to shed alot of healthy hairs you start to panic and then have to decide to reduce your dosage or stop all together. He then tells you that minoxidil does not really show any benefit to the hairline or temples so why the heck are we still putting it there when most people just keep receding. Then of course, you keep receding and then think your treatments are not working or making things worse. Unfortunately, you have no way of knowing if you are responding well or not because hair cycles are like a rollercoaster and you find yourself only blaming the treatments when you find your hair starting to look crappy again. It takes about 10 months to recover fully from a larger shed so its hard to wait that long to decide if you will change your treatments or not. The best thing about the foam is its not messy and it goes on quickly and dries really quick and it kind of cosmetically thickens the hair like mousse. If anyone knows of a published study where the subjects used the liquid rogaine versus the rogaine foam and the liquid was shown to be more effective SIGNIFICANTLY please link me to it.

 

[Nathaniel]

I think that some people probably are not applying the foam correctly and that is the problem. It actually takes a bit of practice. In any case, make sure you are hitting the scalp DIRECTLY with the foam and not the hairs, if not, your argument on its efficacy is biased.

 

[jared_24]

I think that some people probably are not applying the foam correctly and that is the problem. It actually takes a bit of practice. In any case, make sure you are hitting the scalp DIRECTLY with the foam and not the hairs, if not, your argument on its efficacy is biased.

I can't speak for everyone else...... but I definitely was applying the foam DIRECTLY to the scalp and yet it was still completely ineffective.

However, your argument is a legitimate one and I do believe this maybe the reason why foam does not work in *some* cases.