Folligen or Revivogen?

[GhostInTheShell]

Hello all....

i am currently on Propecia and Polysorbate 80. i plan to add in Rogaine Foam 5%. i want to add further to my regime....i have been going back and forth between products....i have decided to stop analyzing! here are the two choices...

1.) Folligen and Emu Oil

or

2.) Revivogen

Folligen/Emu Oil Pros:

- The reviews, while fewer than other products, are quite positive. i am sure neutral and negative ones might exist....but i do not see the big controversy that stirs with other products.

- i do not read stories about horrific scalp burns and major shedding crises.

- It can actually soothe the scalp if it dries from other products.

- The website looks professional and is aesthetically pleasing. i know that this might not seem like a big deal, and of course it doesn't guarantee anything. Nonetheless, visiting a site that looks like it was made with a layout generator always worries me (that apple-poly site gave me a change of heart...i was about ready to go for the product until i went to their website).

If You haven't visited their website yet, please do. It is worth it.

Revivogen Pros:

- The videotape on their website did have customers that seemed to be genuine in their support for the product

- The latest article posted on here...the moderators seem impressed...if that article has merit....Revivogen is more potent than expected.


So there You have it. i am going back and forth. Folligen has more reasons..yet that article with Revivogen has stuck with me..despite the controversy on it.

What do You all think?

 

[hair_tomorrow]

I've tried them both with no success.

I think for now I'd go w/ the folligen/emu oil, with an eye toward the new revivogen formula for the future.

 

[GhostInTheShell]

How long did You try both, hair_tomorrow?

Thanks for you response!

 

[JWM]

My advice?

Stick with the Finasteride, drop the polysorbate and add minoxidil.

For the record, I think Folligen is a good product I am starting to feel that many people apply it incorrectly.

 

[hair_tomorrow]

How long did You try both, hair_tomorrow?

Thanks for you response!

Don't know exactly - but lets say folligen (or tricomin) / emu oil for 1 year +, then 1 year off, now - tricomin / emu oil again for the last 10 months (yeah - still using it);

Used the old Revivogen back in 2004 / 2005 for 1 full year plus, plus used it in combination w/ spironolactone 2% - and my damn hair actually got worse! Ended up giving away 1 1/2 bottles of rev.

 

[GhostInTheShell]

My advice?

Stick with the Finasteride, drop the polysorbate and add minoxidil.

For the record, I think Folligen is a good product I am starting to feel that many people apply it incorrectly.

Thank You, JWM.

If i may ask, why do You recommend dropping Polysorbate? Despite the Helsinki controversy...i have read some promising things about it.

i am adding Rogaine Foam 5%.

Folligen is often applied incorrectly? If i am going to go this route, i'd like to know how. What do people do wrong? Thanks!

 

[JWM]

Folligen Spray has absorption issues due to the zero alcohol it contains, therefore I strongly believe that it should be applied first to a hydrated scalp, followed 10-15 minutes later by minoxidil.

This works better for me and creates less of a mess.

 

[Thinning Sucks]

Folligen Spray has absorption issues due to the zero alcohol it contains, therefore I strongly believe that it should be applied first to a hydrated scalp, followed 10-15 minutes later by minoxidil.

This works better for me and creates less of a mess.

There was also some talk on here about use every 2nd day only? Anyone can confirm this?

 

[Nathaniel]

Folligen Spray has absorption issues due to the zero alcohol it contains, therefore I strongly believe that it should be applied first to a hydrated scalp, followed 10-15 minutes later by minoxidil.

This works better for me and creates less of a mess.

There was also some talk on here about use every 2nd day only? Anyone can confirm this?

Yes folligen is actually supposed to be applied about 4 times per week. I am currently using it, last year I did it for a few months with no results whatsoever. I am actually thinking of starting revivogen because I suspect that copper peptides like folligen are best for people who need to condition their scalp. I think that since I am one of those lucky ones with okay scalp health and no irritation I will not benefit that much with folligen therefore I am considering revivogen. I will try to finish the bottle though.

 

[Nathaniel]

Folligen Spray has absorption issues due to the zero alcohol it contains, therefore I strongly believe that it should be applied first to a hydrated scalp, followed 10-15 minutes later by minoxidil.

This works better for me and creates less of a mess.

This is very interesting JWN. I use the spray and yes it is very watery, have you had any success by doing this? Dr. Pickart suggests the opposite though, apply minoxidil first then folligen and thats what I've been doing but I doubt its doing anything at all.

 

[JWM]

I have had better success doing it my way. Dr. Pickart's way never made sense to me. It seemed like it would dilute the minoxidil and always cause the Folligen to run off the scalp.

 

[hawks05]

theres a new revivogen??

 

[GhostInTheShell]

Well, Revivogen came out with a new study on its effectiveness.

i was all ready to go with the Revivogen/Folligen....then i read from a moderator on here that You should go from most proved then work down the line..after the big three it is Tricomin...to them at least. Should it be Tricomin instead of Folligen? Argh! This drives me nutty.

 

[GhostInTheShell]

More that I think about it....and after this i am going to quit thinking and start purchasing....

Tricomin or Folligen for the Copper Peptide? Folligen also has some scalp health benefits....but on moderator's list of most proved to least...Tricomin is higher up. What do You all think? After this...i will make a decision! i am tired of weighing options.

 

[jakeb]

I don't think there's a solid answer on this. It depends on the kind of person you are. Tricomin is the only CP formulation with scientific studies behind it. Folligen is created by the same scientist who says "in theory" it should be better than Tricomin... but there are no studies.

It's like Deal or No Deal. Do you keep the smaller "sure thing" or do you feel lucky and try for more?

 

[GhostInTheShell]

I don't think there's a solid answer on this. It depends on the kind of person you are. Tricomin is the only CP formulation with scientific studies behind it. Folligen is created by the same scientist who says "in theory" it should be better than Tricomin... but there are no studies.

It's like Deal or No Deal. Do you keep the smaller "sure thing" or do you feel lucky and try for more?

You are completely right on this *sighs*. My last step is talking to people who work at the companies themselves. I will ask some questions...then go from there.

i think many of us are in the same boat! No clear answers for anything.

 

[iamnaked]

More that I think about it....and after this i am going to quit thinking and start purchasing....

Tricomin or Folligen for the Copper Peptide? Folligen also has some scalp health benefits....but on moderator's list of most proved to least...Tricomin is higher up. What do You all think? After this...i will make a decision! i am tired of weighing options.

They way I see it, folligen is an unrefined combination of hydrolyzed proteins combined with copper sulphate. It therefore contains some of the 'wrong' peptides as well as the right ones. This shouldn't really matter. Where Tricomin is an improvement is that supposedly it isolates the good ones and doesn't give the scalp a greenish hue like folligen.

This having been said, the clinical trials for Tricomin were done with significantly higher concentrations than the commercial formulation.

 

[JWM]

I have used both on and off for years. Folligen is a mess and Tricomin is not. HOWEVER, Folligen did a better job at thickening existing hair for me than Tricomin, AND I only used it every other day.

Take that for what it's worth.

 

[GhostInTheShell]

More that I think about it....and after this i am going to quit thinking and start purchasing....

Tricomin or Folligen for the Copper Peptide? Folligen also has some scalp health benefits....but on moderator's list of most proved to least...Tricomin is higher up. What do You all think? After this...i will make a decision! i am tired of weighing options.

They way I see it, folligen is an unrefined combination of hydrolyzed proteins combined with copper sulphate. It therefore contains some of the 'wrong' peptides as well as the right ones. This shouldn't really matter. Where Tricomin is an improvement is that supposedly it isolates the good ones and doesn't give the scalp a greenish hue like folligen.

This having been said, the clinical trials for Tricomin were done with significantly higher concentrations than the commercial formulation.

I have heard this about Tricomin also. Are the concentrates higher in Folligen? i have heard about the greenish hue. On the website..it only mentioned a greenish tint for those with blonde hair. i will research more.